McSalsa Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 3 hours ago, JonahWilliamson said: With the amount of discussion SOB makes. I wonder if they have fully shut the door on the thought of a SOB 2.0. I would go nuts if they came up with a RMC group up. I want that massive lift and pre drop again. But if the rest of the layout is different im cool with it. Anyone know if RMC can do a vertical loop? Just Curious From what I have heard RMC can indeed do loops, but their lead designer, Alan Schilke, doesn't like them so his designs don't use them (save Tennessee Tornado which he did with Arrow in 1999). Thus we aren't likely to see a loop on a huge RMC Hybird Coaster as long as he is the designer. Thus if the park did decide to build a huge RMC (I would not be opposed) I'd imagine they might have to either come up with a new theme (they'd probably go this route- it would just be a huge RMC with little to no storyline ties to SOB), or find some way to explain why there isn't a loop in a SOB "tribute" coaster. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishleehooker Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 23 minutes ago, McSalsa said: From what I have heard RMC can indeed do loops, but their lead designer, Alan Schilke, doesn't like them so his designs don't use them (save Tennessee Tornado which he did with Arrow in 1999). Thus we aren't likely to see a loop on a huge RMC Hybird Coaster as long as he is the designer. Thus if the park did decide to build a huge RMC (I would not be opposed) I'd imagine they might have to either come up with a new theme (they'd probably go this route- it would just be a huge RMC with little to no storyline ties to SOB), or find some way to explain why there isn't a loop in a SOB "tribute" coaster. Since SoB was a tribute to The Beast, just say the loop was a misguided youth thing. Beasts don't do loops. Or something like that. I know having a killer RMC that was called SoB would make the SoB story so much more palatable for everyone involved and it would be a must-ride thing for everyone into amusement parks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 I don't see a SOB 2.0 ever happening, at least not with CF in charge. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishleehooker Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 Your probably right. I just want an RMC or even another big woodie. That is my fave part of KI by far and away. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted January 21, 2020 Share Posted January 21, 2020 5 year wise- I think we'll see a lot of improvements, like we saw in 2019 but each season. Some areas that I think need some love: Oktoberfest, The Crypt building, and the midway between Coney Mall and Rivertown 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIguy2004 Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 On 6/28/2019 at 12:38 PM, IndyGuy4KI said: I have pulled all the next coaster discussion out of the decoding thread and put it in the one Fun&Only created. I realize there are other older threads, but I think it is best starting with a new thread knowing what we know with the current construction for 2020. What is the new forum called? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted January 23, 2020 Share Posted January 23, 2020 2 hours ago, KIguy2004 said: What is the new forum called? I think this one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Meyer Posted February 9, 2020 Share Posted February 9, 2020 On 6/28/2019 at 3:06 PM, WoodVengeance said: I don't like the idea of Congo Falls getting torn out, but I know it's also not that popular of an attraction anymore so Cedar Fair may very well consider it. It may be a bit far-fetched, but if Congo Falls does get removed, I would hope that at some point in the distant future, Kings Island puts in a Mack Rides Power Splash or Water Coaster in Rivertown where the TR;TR building is. I think with the news of Vortex being removed, maybe just maybe they could move Congo falls in the plot of land that Vortex used. I would prefer they build another roller coaster in that land, but that's an option if they want to add a roller coaster in Action Zone. On 8/28/2019 at 10:27 PM, kirbias1 said: I think it is comical that a lot of people are predicting a record breaking RMC for the next coaster at KI. I do believe it will be a ground up RMC hybrid, but it will have similar stats to Twisted Timbers, not SV. Cedar Fair has obviously shown us that they are not interested in building record breaking rides at KI (with the exception of Banshee's longest inverted coaster record, which no one really cares about). The good news is that Twisted Timbers is a great ride. Here's what I'm really thinking. I'm thinking they'll put a ground up rmc in the spot of Vortex and make it similar to how Twisted Timbers was built. And I want to quote my sister when she says, why does everything have to be record breaking? Kings Island has nostalgia with the fountains, international street, and family atmosphere. If you want record breaking, go to Cedar Point. Getting back to what I was saying, I agree with you dude and believe that they should build the rmc ground up similar to Twisted Timbers, but make it a little longer to accommodate three trains. Just go in the pattern of Maverick in a way. It wasn't the tallest or fastest, but was the steepest and still is the steepest at Cedar Point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Decided to make this for what could replace Backlot Stunt Coaster if it's removed. This is an overhead of an intamin blitz (I used Maverick as a reference) 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 BLSC waste so much land. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klabergian Empire Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 15 hours ago, flightoffear1996 said: BLSC waste so much land. 110% agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purdude86 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 7:00 PM, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said: Decided to make this for what could replace Backlot Stunt Coaster if it's removed. This is an overhead of an intamin blitz (I used Maverick as a reference) I would love something like this. I have always felt a steeplechase type themed blitz style coaster would be great there. A blitz coaster would be fun and having the hroses/steeplechase theme would be a good mix for it being nestled between Coney Mall and Rivertown. It kind of fits the theme for both. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin22 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 On 2/21/2020 at 11:06 PM, flightoffear1996 said: BLSC waste so much land. It does take up quite a bit of land but there’s still plenty of room to add flat rides around BLSC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 9 hours ago, Benjamin22 said: It does take up quite a bit of land but there’s still plenty of room to add flat rides around BLSC. I would rework the paths surronding the greenspace so that there is more land on either side. That plaza doesn't need to be as big as it is anyway. In all honesty I'd like to see BLSC added to Rivertown and rethemed during an off year. Remove the police cars, billboards, helicopter etc and retheme it to the west (or even to the derby since KY isn't too far away) Something like this would fit the theme. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 ^ That was a fun ride. I thought the seats would be uncomfortable with how strange they are, but that wasn't the case. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin22 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 S&S does have a modern Steeple Chase (Which has great looking cars) but it’s capacity is very very limited. http://s-s.com/rides/steeplechase-coaster/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I don't believe we'll see one of those low capacity rides. Tbh I think maybe we could see a Mack or Primer launch coaster be built with that kind of theme. Tbh I wonder how a West Coast Racers type ride would work. Maybe giving it a horse derby type theme. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cincinatired Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Backlot is already in river town 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, Cincinatired said: Backlot is already in river town Yes, but the theme doesn't really go with Rivertown too much. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSummit20 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Benjamin22 said: S&S does have a modern Steeple Chase (Which has great looking cars) but it’s capacity is very very limited. http://s-s.com/rides/steeplechase-coaster/ omg one of those at Ki you're joking right lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin22 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 50 minutes ago, RedSummit20 said: omg one of those at Ki you're joking right lol I didn’t suggest one should be added to the park, all I did was share a similar model of coaster to motorbike coaster that was being discussed. But yes I agree one is not likely to come to Kings Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSummit20 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 7 minutes ago, Benjamin22 said: I didn’t suggest one should be added to the park, all I did was share a similar model of coaster to motorbike coaster that was being discussed. But yes I agree one is not likely to come to Kings Island. okay i was going to say lol. I think we will get and need a ground up RMC. Its a flagship park for CF and it dont have an RMC, plus it would be cool for ohio to have 2 giga's and 2 rmc's 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 4 hours ago, Cincinatired said: Backlot is already in river town 4 hours ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said: Yes, but the theme doesn't really go with Rivertown too much. It was originally part of Coney. I don't know who changed it on the Wikipedia page. That plot of land is odd because it was always 1/2 Coney Mall. 1/2 Rivertown. As it stands, it makes more sense to consider BLSC a part of Coney Mall. With Vortex's removal, it might make it a little easier for boundaries to be made. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cincinatired Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 On 2/24/2020 at 4:08 PM, SonofBaconator said: It was originally part of Coney. I don't know who changed it on the Wikipedia page. That plot of land is odd because it was always 1/2 Coney Mall. 1/2 Rivertown. As it stands, it makes more sense to consider BLSC a part of Coney Mall. With Vortex's removal, it might make it a little easier for boundaries to be made. I work at ki in river town it’s in river town my manager told me it was troika is also in RT Now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 4 hours ago, Cincinatired said: I work at ki in river town it’s in river town my manager told me it was troika is also in RT Now Troika huh? If that's the case, I hope theming improves throughout that stretch to reflect on the Rivertown theme 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klabergian Empire Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On 2/26/2020 at 3:16 PM, SonofBaconator said: On 2/26/2020 at 11:17 AM, Cincinatired said: I work at ki in river town it’s in river town my manager told me it was troika is also in RT Now Troika huh? If that's the case, I hope theming improves throughout that stretch to reflect on the Rivertown theme Yeah....I don't think "Troika" is being annexed by Rivertown. Unless, you know, they move it there... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cincinatired Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 17 hours ago, Klabergian Empire said: Yeah....I don't think "Troika" is being annexed by Rivertown. Unless, you know, they move it there... No not like that It’s paired with backlot for ride ops 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIghostguy Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 On 2/26/2020 at 3:16 PM, SonofBaconator said: Troika huh? If that's the case, I hope theming improves throughout that stretch to reflect on the Rivertown theme Shake, Rattle and Roll is considered Rivertown in the Rides department, but thematically it’s always been Coney Mall. Just like how the Eiffel Tower is on International Street, but Rides groups it into Planet Snoopy. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klabergian Empire Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Cincinatired said: No not like that It’s paired with backlot for ride ops 1 hour ago, KIghostguy said: Shake, Rattle and Roll is considered Rivertown in the Rides department, but thematically it’s always been Coney Mall. Just like how the Eiffel Tower is on International Street, but Rides groups it into Planet Snoopy. Ok these really clear things up! I kinda knew that, but I guess I took it in a different way. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyano Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 On 2/26/2020 at 11:17 AM, Cincinatired said: I work at ki in river town it’s in river town my manager told me it was troika is also in RT Now Technically but not really, Backlot is in Coney Mall, but the crew meets in Rivertown, and associates with that side of the park instead of meeting at Skyline. I've never understood that myself, I think it's to break up power between areas and managers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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