PilotDude Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I love the fact we have to keep coming up with new "well it could of been". At this point all of the evidence leads to an intentional act that removed the webcams from public broadcast. We have evidence the cameras still operated, we have no evidence of any of the new conspiracy theories of website upgrades, or cut fibers or power outages or what ever. Speaking of power outages that is now officially debunked as the cameras were still on, so that is a confirmed lie. If we say okay a line was cut, that is a really silly idea. One you would want a DVR or other recording device kept in climate control and easy access for upgrades, which the top of the tower isn't really ideal for either. This would also allow Mystic Timbers to have been online still, but it wasn't. So I think we can say the Tower played no part in the webcams going down as a camera not on the tower was off as well. So what does that leave us with? A website upgrade (which we have no evidence of), a network upgrade (but then we wouldn't have the time lapse footage), or an intentional act to not broadcast (Occam's Razor is in play here, the simplest answer is probably the right answer). If they wanted to take down the webcams for any reason, okay its your camera you have every right too, just don't lie about it. Lies can only get worse, they are never the best option as the truth will always get out and now you have two crises not one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco2000 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Without getting into specifics and reasons why, when you view the KI webcams on the webpage, it is not being viewed via DDNS, IP, RTSP, Port Forwarding, VPN, P2P, or any other method most would view a camera at their home with....The KI feed is going through at least 3 different software/network platforms before the image is displayed on the webpage. Each one of those platforms, including the camera and recording device, has software. Upgrade one and it doesn't talk to the others nicely and...you guessed it...no feed to the website. Just because the webcams were not visible to the public doesn't mean they were not visible or not recordable to KI staff...it simply means there was a software issue with one of the software/server platforms from camera to website... And actually the top of the tower is climate controlled...ever notice the dripping of water onto you when standing on the top platform waiting for the elevator...that is from the AC unit above as it is climate controlled for the equipment inside... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrfyter Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Without getting into specifics and reasons why, when you view the KI webcams on the webpage, it is not being viewed via DDNS, IP, RTSP, Port Forwarding, VPN, P2P, or any other method most would view a camera at their home with....The KI feed is going through at least 3 different software/network platforms before the image is displayed on the webpage. Each one of those platforms, including the camera and recording device, has software. Upgrade one and it doesn't talk to the others nicely and...you guessed it...no feed to the website. Just because the webcams were not visible to the public doesn't mean they were not visible or not recordable to KI staff...it simply means there was a software issue with one of the software/server platforms from camera to website... And actually the top of the tower is climate controlled...ever notice the dripping of water onto you when standing on the top platform waiting for the elevator...that is from the AC unit above as it is climate controlled for the equipment inside... I think part of the problem with this is, the timing is ridiculously suspect. Most places wait until they have lengthy downtime for these type of upgrades. I think we should change the title of this to Webcam Outrage Discussion... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 @IndyGuy4KI, can this topic get closed because the situation has resolved? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 KI has been working on network software/hardware updates that affected the live stream to the internet. Luckily they were able to keep a local feed at the park to make the time laps video. The timing of these upgrades were unfortunate, but there was no hidden agenda behind them not being live on the internet. At this point, the cameras are back up and running and we can continue to discuss what we are seeing on the live feed in the Orion Thread. Consequently, there is nothing more to discuss. This thread will now be locked. 8 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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