silver2005 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 23 minutes ago, JonahWilliamson said: Weird nobody was arguing untill yall showed up.... You keep bringing it up and defending it as if you think I'm just going to take what you say at face value. I don't agree with your stances on this and I am choosing to voice that as I think you guys spreading the park lying notion are in fact spreading the bad information. I don't think you realize how much anyone can pick this stuff apart and find giant logical holes in this. I'm having you spell it out on purpose so I can show how bad this argument is. At this point, I just think we're going to agree to disagree. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klabergian Empire Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Just now, BeeastFarmer said: Does anyone here remember if the park cut the power to the tower in order to transform it to a 314' Christmas tree in '18 or '17? I do not know personally, but I do not see why they would do that because: 1. they need power to use the elevators to get to the 265ft level; and 2. they are stringing lights BELOW the cams....the cams are located above the cage on the 275ft level..... But that's just my thoughts about it.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahWilliamson Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, silver2005 said: You keep bringing it up and defending it as if you think I'm just going to take what you say at face value. I don't think you realize how much anyone can pick this stuff apart and find giant logical holes in this. I'm having you spell it out on purpose so I can show how bad this argument is. At this point, I just think we're going to agree to disagree. Dude. Its just speculation. Nobody here has a solid answer. POINT and CASE. Why cant we speculate without being told "Relax" Isnt the point of this thread to speculate and talk with people who have the similar interest. I dont have an answer thats right or wrong. Its all just a thought. Literally nobody was arguing till someone said relax youll live. No ****. Maybe you cant take things at face value either. Do you know where we can sign up for classes on how to learn that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gad198 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I don't think it's unreasonable for anyone who is following this project to be disappointed in the webcams being down. This is Kings Island's longest, tallest, and fastest steel coaster. Kings Island may never build another coaster of this magnitude. Sometimes we (myself included) take a lot of these larger coaster installations for granted. We've had Diamondback (a world-class hyper), Banshee (a world-class inverted), Mystic Timbers (a world-class wooden coaster) and Orion (what will be a world-class giga) all within a just over 10-year timeframe. How many other parks can we think of that has received these kinds of installations within that same timeframe? The economy has been a tailwind during that time, but there's absolutely no guarantee that will continue to be the case moving forward. Cedar Fair has already come out and said that these larger installations are likely going to slow down. Kings Island is very unlikely to see this kind of marquee installation again for a LONG time, and as such, this is going to be their flagship coaster for a LONG time. Missing out on seeing the progress of a coaster that we've all been (1) waiting for a long time to be built, (2) were overjoyed to have announced, (3) is currently under construction, and (4) may not see an equivalent scale coaster built at this park ever again is definitely disappointing. The construction work being done now is literally the first or second thing that most Kings Island guests will see as they approach the park next year and for years to come thereafter. Regardless as to how you feel about the coaster this is a milestone moment in the park's history. Is it worth organizing a protest and start picketing around Kings Island because of this situation? Of course not. This is a hobby of ours so we want to make sure and keep things in the proper perspective. But in the context of our hobby this is absolutely an incredibly exciting time, and to be missing out on some of this for whatever reason the webcams are down is a bummer. Hopefully we'll continue to have those charitable posters continue to post pictures from publicly-accessible areas to satisfy our curiosity! 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahWilliamson Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 minute ago, gad198 said: I don't think it's unreasonable for anyone who is following this project to be disappointed in the webcams being down. This is Kings Island's longest, tallest, and fastest steel coaster. Kings Island may never build another coaster of this magnitude. Sometimes we (myself included) take a lot of these larger coaster installations for granted. We've had Diamondback (a world-class hyper), Banshee (a world-class inverted), Mystic Timbers (a world-class wooden coaster) and Orion (what will be a world-class giga) all within a just over 10-year timeframe. How many other parks can we think of that has received these kinds of installations within that same timeframe? The economy has been a tailwind during that time, but there's absolutely no guarantee that will continue to be the case moving forward. Cedar Fair has already come out and said that these larger installations are likely going to slow down. Kings Island is very unlikely to see this kind of marquee installation again for a LONG time, and as such, this is going to be their flagship coaster for a LONG time. Missing out on seeing the progress of a coaster that we've all been (1) waiting for a long time to be built, (2) were overjoyed to have announced, (3) is currently under construction, and (4) may not see an equivalent scale coaster built at this park ever again is definitely disappointing. The construction work being done now is literally the first or second thing that most Kings Island guests will see as they approach the park next year and for years to come thereafter. Regardless as to how you feel about the coaster this is a milestone moment in the park's history. Is it worth organizing a protest and start picketing around Kings Island because of this situation? Of course not. This is a hobby of ours so we want to make sure and keep things in the proper perspective. But in the context of our hobby this is absolutely an incredibly exciting time, and to be missing out on some of this for whatever reason the webcams are down is a bummer. Hopefully we'll continue to have those charitable posters continue to post pictures from publicly-accessible areas to satisfy our curiosity! This guy gets it. Its our hobby we were all just talking. Then the arguers came in. And usually i dont argue that hard but i find it incredible we get told to relax the webcams arent that serious. On a free thread that isnt that serious... I apologize to everyone sifting through and the mods they will probs have to clear out. This. Is. just. a. ****ing. forum. Not a thing on here that ive ever posted mattered when i get off the computer. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, JonahWilliamson said: Dude. Its just speculation. Nobody here has a solid answer. POINT and CASE. Why cant we speculate without being told "Relax" I dont have an answer thats right or wrong. Its all just a thought. Literally nobody was arguing till someone said relax youll live. No ****. Maybe you cant take things at face value either. Do you know where we can sign up for classes on how to learn that? I don't get why you think I'm not relaxed. I'm simply building my points of speculation from another side of this and voicing my opinions as well. And don't act like you haven't been tense in your opinions either. You're the one defending building the case with the claims of the park lying in the first place. You can't say that isn't drama. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahWilliamson Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, silver2005 said: I don't get why you think I'm not relaxed. I'm simply building my points of speculation from another side of this and voicing my opinions as well. And don't act like you haven't been tense in your opinions either. You're the one defending building the case with the claims of the park lying in the first place. You can't say that isn't drama. Silver.... Its all speculation. Nobody needs to relax. Cause if you arent relaxed while on here you got a problem. Im sitting in a chair typing. Not mad. im laughing mostly. This is a thread. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovinMeSomeBanshee Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 The only drama I see here are the ones coming in complaining about those that are disgruntled with KI PR's handling of this whole issue. It's been a complete clusterf**k. There is not one person who can come here and say with complete honesty that Kings Island's PR staff didn't completely botch this week up. If the park indeed installed software upgrades, and are having electrical issues due to Winterfest, SAY IT. Communicate with your customers! Give us video and photos of the progress! Go the extra mile since we can't watch it ourselves. Instead, we have NOTHING. So for those that viciously defend KI's PR team like they can do nothing wrong - give it a darn rest. It's ridiculous. They screwed up. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ding Dong Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 In my great and unmatched wisdom, I called it this morning. 4 hours ago, King Ding Dong said: Today is going to be an insane day. 2 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, LovinMeSomeBanshee said: The only drama I see here are the ones coming in complaining about those that are disgruntled with KI PR's handling of this whole issue. It's been a complete clusterf**k. There is not one person who can come here and say with complete honesty that Kings Island's PR staff didn't completely botch this week up. If the park indeed installed software upgrades, and are having electrical issues due to Winterfest, SAY IT. Communicate with your customers! Give us video and photos of the progress! Go the extra mile since we can't watch it ourselves. Instead, we have NOTHING. So for those that viciously defend KI's PR team like they can do nothing wrong - give it a darn rest. It's ridiculous. They screwed up. What do average customers have to benefit from that information? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixohdieselrage Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 minute ago, silver2005 said: What do average customers have to benefit from that information? I mean, if I dont communicate correctly and truthfully to my customers, they wont be my customers for very long, and may not trust what is said in the future. And trust is a very hard thing to earn back. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 minute ago, sixohdieselrage said: I mean, if I dont communicate correctly and truthfully to my customers, they wont be my customers for very long, and may not trust what is said in the future. And trust is a very hard thing to earn back. Based entirely off of how they're handling the webcams? You're kidding, right? There are many other areas that the park could screw up which that would be true. The webcams aren't one of those issues. I think most of you are stuck in the enthusiast social bubble. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick44 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 So do we need to play by play from the time lapse very very delayed WeatherBug cam? You can start to see the drop peak over the top of International Street and Racer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBN Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Wow, interesting day on the forum hahaha, geez. Looks like theres a few people on here having a REALLY bad day today or something 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixohdieselrage Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 @silver2005No, but every little thing adds up. And something minor to you may be major to someone else. Again, trust is a big thing these days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 minute ago, silver2005 said: Based entirely off of how they're handling the webcams? You're kidding, right? There are many other areas that the park could screw up which that would be true. The webcams aren't one of those issues. I think most of you are stuck in the enthusiast social bubble. While enthusiasts make up a very very tiny percent of customers, they are a very vocal set of customers, a set that it is usually not wise to mishandle. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixflags82 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 If its the power being cut from the tower then why is the mystic cam down? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahWilliamson Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, silver2005 said: Based entirely off of how they're handling the webcams? You're kidding, right? There are many other areas that the park could screw up which that would be true. The webcams aren't one of those issues. I think most of you are stuck in the enthusiast social bubble. If you aren't stuck in it, or on the subject for that matter. Why you still here? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin22 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, JonahWilliamson said: If you aren't stuck in it, or on the subject for that matter. Why you still here? You’re able to be an enthusiast and still be able to realize different perspectives other then your own. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahWilliamson Posted October 24, 2019 Author Share Posted October 24, 2019 Just now, Ben43065 said: You’re able to be an enthusiast and still be able to realize other perspectives other then your own. Amen to that brother. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilotDude Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 1 hour ago, JonahWilliamson said: Okay im literally spelling it out. They said they needed software updates. Ive worked for live tv, video studios, music studios. Ive never seen a 6 day update. Kinda weird right... Well shiney grey as Billie Mays once said "WAIT THERES MORE" They then change the story up to shutting off power. The elevators have been running. The lights at the top of the tower are on. AND NOT JUST THE AVIATION FLASHY LIGHT THING (Six what are those called. Btw) The actual lights. Now i dont know how your electric works but when mines off the lights dont usually come up right. KI also has a track record of taking cams down of any risk so nothing gets caught on video. This is what i think is happening. But last but not least we wish the park would just come out and say that. Theres the string you following like a cat now? Aviation flashy light thing is good enough. 1 hour ago, sixohdieselrage said: @JonahWilliamson Obstruction Lights. @LovinMeSomeBanshee I am a fly-around poster... not a fly-by. Although, we have flown by once.... Better be careful flying by, don't want to upset anyone over being in the airspace above them. Next thing you know we will end up like Disney having to tell ATC on the radio we are buzzing the tower/castle. 57 minutes ago, JonahWilliamson said: Weird nobody was arguing untill yall showed up.... I've been a little argumentative at times. Sorry y'all I will try to get my passion under control. 37 minutes ago, King Ding Dong said: In my great and unmatched wisdom, I called it this morning. Eh it was way more spicy the other day. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick44 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 #KICSTONG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsUp Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 19 hours ago, LovinMeSomeBanshee said: What a disappointment and lost opportunity. No offense, but 'opportunity' for what? The GP doesn't care until the thing is operational, and after the lukewarm excitement from enthusiasts and GP alike at the announcement of a mega-project, the last thing I'd care about is providing footage of every minute of construction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixohdieselrage Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 2 minutes ago, HandsUp said: No offense, but 'opportunity' for what? The GP doesn't care until the thing is operational, and after the lukewarm excitement from enthusiasts and GP alike at the announcement of a mega-project, the last thing I'd care about is providing footage of every minute of construction. The GP comments on alot of social media says alot though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBN Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I see that the ones who wanted to start an argument aren't posting anymore huh lol 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoriell Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Ah yes, The official KIComplainers thread! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatchesC Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 Eh, I've been using construction cam as a bribe for my 11yo to get her chores done. "You take too long you won't have free time to check" . Whatever works I guess hehehe 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFloppyDisc Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I may be incorrect about this, but doesn't KI have wifi in the park, so if the webcams are still down tomorrow if there is no wifi that would make sense if they are doing a whole system upgrade/maintenance. Just a thought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PilotDude Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 21 minutes ago, PatchesC said: Eh, I've been using construction cam as a bribe for my 11yo to get her chores done. "You take too long you won't have free time to check" . Whatever works I guess hehehe Guess them chores aint getting done. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodistict Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I looked on WeatherBug, and it looks like the majority of the lights are up, so hopefully we will see the webcams up soon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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