SonofBaconator Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I had an idea for turning the chaos building into a walk-through attraction where it gives more back story on Orion and Area 72. Basically a rideless que with theming, audio, etc; an exhibit if you will. No scareactors or spooky alien stuff but just a genuine walk through attraction that can be converted back to a haunted house come fall. I personally loved walking through Cedar Point's little museum that they have. Call me boring but I enjoy walking through Flight of Fear's que as much as I do riding the actual coaster. Am I alone on this? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amapan Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 (edited) I couldn’t care less about an expanded story and elaborate theming. Kings Island doesn’t feel super cohesive as a whole to me in terms of theming. Unlike Disney, a 100 year old media company who use their properties to sell park admissions and sponsored products from other brands, Cedar Fair is using a model for their business that is quite a bit different than that I think. People like Cedar Fair parks for thrilling rides and nice kid friendly and family attractions. Walt was a freaking genius who integrated his brand vertically from the very beginning and has maintained loyal and enthusiastic fans for decades. The attention to detail in those parks is mind boggling and often very educational. Cedar Fair doesn’t need this level of theming to keep people coming to their parks because I believe their customer base isn’t going to the park to live inside of a fantasy story all day or stand in long lines to learn about science and engineering (although I’d hit those exhibits up). I think Cedar Fair’s customers would appreciate more shade, fans, air conditioners, and heaters (for those chilly fall and winter nights) in their queue lines. I haven’t been to a Disney park since I was a kid, but the lines were so so long, I learned more there in three days than I did at school that year, and thrill rides were very scarce. I guess I’m saying people don’t go to Cedar Fair parks for fully immersive experiences and people don’t go to Disney to ride coasters. Edited April 24, 2020 by amapan More clarity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDMC01 Posted April 24, 2020 Share Posted April 24, 2020 I think walkthrough attractions are cool. They are a nice break from the rest of the day (see Dinosaurs Alive) and offer something different. The next step up from a basic walk through attraction would be immersive experinces like Haunt mazes or Forbidden Frontier at Cedar Point. Though I heard Forbidden Frontier was getting mixed reviews, I absolutely loved it! It was so great to interact with all the characters and explore Adventure Island! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkscrewMcPuke Posted May 8, 2020 Share Posted May 8, 2020 Only the ones made by the National Park Service. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 On April 24, 2020 at 12:47 AM, SonofBaconator said: I had an idea for turning the chaos building into a walk-through attraction where it gives more back story on Orion and Area 72. Basically a rideless que with theming, audio, etc; an exhibit if you will. No scareactors or spooky alien stuff but just a genuine walk through attraction that can be converted back to a haunted house come fall. I personally loved walking through Cedar Point's little museum that they have. Call me boring but I enjoy walking through Flight of Fear's que as much as I do riding the actual coaster. Am I alone on this? You're not alone. I love this idea. The park could use a walk-through attraction or two. If not a themed one, the museum idea might be perfect for this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 So, I actually really like walkthrough stuff. I love Noah's Ark at Kennywood, and I enjoyed Wacky Shack at Waldameer and Kings Dominion's old walkthrough whose name escapes me at the moment. Those specific kinds of walkthroughs, though, seem to be a dying piece of history. I'm speculating that ADA requirements and some amount of liability are the causes of that. As far as a modern walkthrough goes... I'm split. I feel like there's promise in the concept, but the first thing that comes to mind is something like Madame Tussaud's, which isn't my thing. I can't think of a good equivalent in the modern era. I'll take a highly themed coaster queue any day of the week, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted July 19, 2020 Author Share Posted July 19, 2020 I think if it adds to the theme/story I'd say its worth it. Ques tend to be key when setting the mood for a ride anymore-I'd argue sometimes they make the ride better. Heck there were times I used to walk along the old White Water Canyon trail just because I enjoyed looking at the trees and feeling like I was somewhere secluded. Stuff like Forbidden Frontier at CP or even Tom Sawyer Island at the Disney parks where people can interact and view different things would be awesome. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIghostguy Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I’ve always wanted to see a funhouse inside the KillMart building. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purdude86 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 A funhouse would be perfect in that area. It would be another thing that would be fun for all ages, potentially escape heat for a few going through it, should have a very high throughput to keep people moving through, and be fairly inexpensive. Plus it would fit the theming great for that section. I do agree as well with the idea of a small museum added as well. Provide a nice air conditioned break on a hot, busy day. Could be some interesting stuff to see and learn about. Just not sure where I'd put it. I think near International Street would be best, but the main spot I could think of would be the open lawn area behind Eiffel Tower and next to International Showplace. But feel it could ruin the view of that area some, but there's not much landscaping recently anyway to be too scenic. If they left BLSC it could potentially block the view of it from International Street if they place it between that and the Eiffel Tower. Otherwise put it in a new themed building in one of the other lands like Rivertown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 On 6/25/2020 at 10:26 PM, TombRaiderFTW said: As far as a modern walkthrough goes... I'm split. I feel like there's promise in the concept, but the first thing that comes to mind is something like Madame Tussaud's, which isn't my thing. I can't think of a good equivalent in the modern era. It just hit me that there IS a modern equivalent, kinda... It's Poseidon's Fury at Islands of Adventure, which I unabashedly love. It's cheesy as heck, but I love the concept of a show that you walk through, and I think it could very much be done in a better way that would be legitimately fun to experience for everyone. If Kings Island were to get something like that somehow, though, I don't know what it'd necessarily be themed to or where it'd go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivertown Rider Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 While the Chaos building is small, turning it into a year round funhouse would be something else for people to do in Area 72. Grandfather's Mansion at Silver Dollar City is another great funhouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 The Funhouse idea should happen! It would tie in to the old Coney Island/retro amusement park feel of Coney Mall and it could be easily switched over for Haunt for something like CarnEvil. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted August 29, 2020 Author Share Posted August 29, 2020 Double post I want to maybe expand more on this fun house idea @KIghostguy brought up. Is there a reason why we don't see a lot of them anymore? My guess is liability- people getting hurt walking though a hall of mirrors, moving floors, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkscrewMcPuke Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 14 hours ago, SonofBaconator said: Double post I want to maybe expand more on this fun house idea @KIghostguy brought up. Is there a reason why we don't see a lot of them anymore? My guess is liability- people getting hurt walking though a hall of mirrors, moving floors, etc. That would be my assumption. I do recall going into one at my county fair years ago, and there were so many opportunities to get fingers ripped off. Given the risk/reward ratio, I'm not really surprised they are gone. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/29/2020 at 3:07 PM, CorkscrewMcPuke said: That would be my assumption. I do recall going into one at my county fair years ago, and there were so many opportunities to get fingers ripped off. Given the risk/reward ratio, I'm not really surprised they are gone. The Joker ride at Six Flags Mexico has its que inside a funhouse. It seems kind of dangerous but its a Six Flags park so it doesn't shock me as much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purdude86 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 I would love to see the Killmart building converted into a funhouse as it would fit in perfectly with Coney Mall and be a fun attraction with a good throughout. However, I'm sure the liability is too high and it won't happen. But it might be possible if they limit the type of things in it. Maybe if it was hanging bags, mirror maze, slide, and stuff like that it would be ok versus spinning and sliding platforms that could trip someone up more and kids get fingers stuck in and injured. Would be great if it could still have a spinning tunnel, if not a regular one than one with an elevated pathway through it like Carnevil had. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted December 31, 2020 Author Share Posted December 31, 2020 I think some of the "smaller" Haunt buildings should be used during the regular season for something else. Killmart could be a safe fun house, CHAOS could be a walk through attraction which could tie into Area 72, and Blackout could be rethemed as a family friendly walk through spooky attraction connecting to Banshee and The Bat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDMC01 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 That would be cool! Blackout could even be a year-round Haunt attraction and/or they could do it similar to how they did it for HallowTween last year (no scare actors but Spoiler still have some effects, like the thing on the floor (rope/string?) that moved back and forth ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maddog Posted January 1, 2021 Share Posted January 1, 2021 19 hours ago, MDMC01 said: That would be cool! Blackout could even be a year-round Haunt attraction... IDK, it's one thing to go into a tin/metal unconditioned building during the fall nights, but would be an entirely different experience in a 90+ hot day with a beating sun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted February 10, 2023 Author Share Posted February 10, 2023 I think some of the haunt buildings can be used for more than just seasonal attractions. Quite honestly, if they gut some of the buildings and design them like they were non haunt attractions, they could make minor tweaks to them to reincorporate them into Haunt. Take Blackout for example, they could use that building to tie into the story of Banshee and have it be an old abandoned house that adds to the theme that they could enhance during haunt- same with the SOB building, Killmart, etc. With how KI and CF are trying to push stories, having a building that ties stories into nearby attractions would be neat. In addition, it was fascinating seeing all of the temporary 50s nostalgia hit the park, it would be cool to see old KI historical “artifacts “ preserved in an on-site museum for older generations to go inside and reminisce on past memories. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Ok...so the benefit of having these haunt buildings is reduced setup for haunt. Besides minor cleaning and Mechanical touch ups, they are plug n play. Having them open year round would defeat that purpose. They would get wear and tear. Plus, as said earlier, climate control. Then we run into Haunt Fatigue. Ki is heavily season pass based. If you have these open, or tame versions open, there is no reason to come back multiple times for haunt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted February 11, 2023 Author Share Posted February 11, 2023 4 hours ago, BeeastFarmer said: Ok...so the benefit of having these haunt buildings is reduced setup for haunt. Besides minor cleaning and Mechanical touch ups, they are plug n play. Having them open year round would defeat that purpose. They would get wear and tear. Plus, as said earlier, climate control. Then we run into Haunt Fatigue. Ki is heavily season pass based. If you have these open, or tame versions open, there is no reason to come back multiple times for haunt. I understand what you’re getting at, I just wish some buildings were used more- it doesn’t have to necessarily be every one. I’d still like to see a museum and maybe a ADA complaint fun house of sorts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSkyFoxx Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I think a park themed walk-thru attraction in the style of Meow Wolf/Other World would be really cool. Abstract/digital interactive art exclusive to the park would be a really fun experience. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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