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Terp maybe I'm wrong (I hope you are though honestly) that the urgency shouldn't be about how do we get the most money today. It's about creating an environment where a little money spent today equals more spent tomorrow/next year. KK is doing everything it can to get money today. KI doesn't seem to care about either, while Disney would rather you spend a little today but make plans to spends more every single year. Yeah they got the money for the meal plans, but that doesn't excuse the poor service. Plus from what I can tell this appears to be mostly a KI issue as other parks don't appear to garner the same negative vibes from food service... Food service was poor last year as well, and the food plans were not in wide spread distribution. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I do get it. KI has to essentially staff a dozen or so restaurants. Finding that many people to work can be daunting, given that it's mostly part seasonal staff. Good workers will most likely find year round employment, if they want to. But the restaurant by SRR and Vortex (can't think of the name) has no reason to not have all 4 Coke stations up and going. Instead they only run the one side (last few times) with only one cashier. Why not have two cashiers? Especially if the line is 10-15 people deep outside the restaurant. If I have said it once I have said it a couple dozen times now. Most of the employees at food service work as if they know their job is 100% safe. (And yes I have complained and no they have never gotten back, conversely I have given compliments and have never gotten a call back either)... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I want to know when and why the changes to The Beast happened during its construction.... What I'm interested is why it appears in a model version the car enters the helix clock wise, the second lift hill crosses the track, and following the first drop the train goes a bit before turning Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

If we were to suggest anything for The Beast I would suggest the old school skid breaks, at night, following a slightly rainy evening, in late September when it's foggy.... If you experienced that then you know what I'm taking about it. Didn't realize it was completely retracked... Explains the smoother experience the last few years... As for how perceptions change, that is life sadly. When I was 12 The Beast was the most untamable ride I could imagine. I never thought I would grow to appreciate it/want to ride it vs riding it to overcome w fear.... Familiarity breeds something or another.... Diamondback is not this generations anything. It's a big steel coaster and to some it's not much different than Banshee except it doesn't go upside down and your feet don't dangle. The Beast will always be special because it's one of the few coasters in the country that can divide a child hood (not tall enough and tall enough). The Beast is unique, from the double helix and second lift hill to the way it used the terrain and glides between and sometimes right next to the trees. Coasters are not built that way anymore. Look at Banshee or Diamondback. The trees were clear cut for what looks like a quarter mile in each direction around the track. The Beast has trees right up to it and maybe I saw a picture of a tree through the structure during construction? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Well from personal experience, I have ridden with and seen younger kiddos get off The Beast and are shaken up from the ride. Also, I must totally be going on the wrong days... My shortest wait for Beast has been about 60 mins.... Not to mention the obligatory wait times does not equal popularity. If there is a 25 minute wait for Beast that means that the train is still leaving full. So people don't stand in line but its not an empty train.... Plus don't forget night rides are always a good 90 mins+ wait.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

When The Beast was built (but before opening) wasnt there a story about how one the creators/engineers/park execs said this thing needs brakes? As in the ride was built, and could handle the stress, but it was just too much so some more brakes were added (old school skid brakes)....

Yup! We were told with our house, we were better off paying off other debts or use it for other things since our interest rate is almost negligible....

Hahaha untrue! The meal plan sometimes makes our decision to head to the park to get a bite to eat and hang at the park... Agreed.. dont take what I said as problems, just that the food doesnt make us say "oh you know what sounds great, a Big Boy..."

The restaurant needs something... We are a family of three, two adults under 30 and a 2 year old, and Frisch's is no where in our meal conversations. Older restaurants, subpar staffing, and mediocre food is not what the company needs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I wonder if it is a problem with them putting computers in piece by piece. They would almost be better off scraping all the systems and starting over.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Agreed the four hour window is nice and just long enough without being too long Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

And longest is a nice friendly term for family coaster. You are not too high, not too many inversions, just length. I see these terms and think intensity enthusiast: fastest, steepest, highest, most inversions I see these terms and think "family" or "safe" coaster: Longest, air time, terrain.... That's just my opinion though ... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I would even say Banshee is sort of a family ride. It's big enough for the adventurous but not too intimidating. My mom (former coaster enthusiast who now finds Beast and Racer too rough and DB just too large) enjoys Banshee. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You're comparing apples to oranges by thinking in terms of today's dollars. Add inflation in to that. As the pass prices go up, so too does the cost of everything else in life, and hopefully wages also. Seven years from now, $124 might be cheaper than $94 is today. "Always in motion, the future is." Not really comparing anything, but speaking as a father and a husband. $500 for anything is a steep price for a family. Just making a comment, not really looking at it more than face value. But if you want to look at it, you are looking at a 30% raise in price over a 7 year time frame. Its good for the park and it may push some people (good or bad) out of the park.... COMPARISON: A Zoo pass is around $100 for the family... I say this, and will most likely keep a pass for the family as the water park and dry side allows for many mini-trips for the family.

Do you think Kings Island will ever hit $126.00? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Ever? Ever is a very long time. Give inflation another ten to twenty years and, assuming that there is no change in ownership or season pass levels, I'm sure it eventually will. Well, I mean, since 2013 all we've seen is the price go up. Let's say the price goes up $5 every year. 2016 Season Pass: $94.99 2017: $99.99 2018: $104.99 2019: $109.99 2020: $114.99 2021: $119.99 2022: $124.99 I'm sad. That's only seven years from now. $124 is a bit pricey, but overall still a steal of a deal... For the price of 4 discounted visits (or the price of 2 full price visits) you get unlimited visits and parking for 124....But 124 would be the point where many families of 4 may not drop $500 for a family season pass...

Yet the Reds allow you to bring food into the park from Subway sandwiches to PB&J... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Higher prices help keep many things in the park in check.... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I vote for a pass. Going into this year my wife said she would go maybe 2 or 3 times. So I bought her a pass. It turned out better as since she had it every time someone suggested to go she went. In total, she has gone about 6 or 7 times while I have been up there around 10 or 12.... As a hubby, I have found that spending a bit for the pass is 100% better than the "I told you to get a pass" conversation haha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I asked this question before it opened about what would be considered a success. If/when it opens next year that would be its third season. I would count that as success. For all his good and bad, Hart has managed (it looks like at least) to bring the park back from the grave. It's done more than Americana did when it attempted a revival. Some days I think of Hart as an unscrupulous dude building the park to sell again. Other days I feel this park is like the Bailey Savings and Loan trying to stay up to avoid being bought out by Mr Potter. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

^ that's happened to me a few times in the morning. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Exactly. And my whole point was what you said and that it took 3-4 years from announcement to opening for HP. Not to count when they started to design it. I really enjoy both parks. HP is probably one of or the best additions (theme wise) to a park I have ever seen. But I just felt it was wrong to state Disney has done nothing but close things at HS when in reality WDW has been doing a bunch. They may not be what we want but it's huge. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So lets look at the facts for just a moment... Wizard World was announced in 2007. 3 years later it opened. In 2011 it was mentioned it would be expanded and the new Diagon Alley opened in 2015. Same 4 year time span... What did Disney do since Hogwarts opened? Developed, built, tested,a and implemented a significantly large investment to streamline and data mine all consumer information inside their WDW location. This included, but was not limited to the following: Rekeying and modifying all doors on all hotel rooms, installation of readers at all shopping locations and rides, created and built an online portal, reservation system, and credit card information. Just altered the way all consumers experience the park.... Oh they also redesigned and built the Art of Animation hotel and designed new hotels for on property and elsewhere. What else did Disney do? Oh yeah redeveloped Fantasyland and built an entire immersive eating location called Be Our Guest. So since Universal revealed plans in 2007 here is what WDW has accomplished since then.... More From 2013-2015 just look at the finishing of Fantasy Land, Toy Story Mania, and the continuing remodeling of Downtown Disney.... So yeah maybe they wernt as big named as an entire land themed to a movie/book series but to say the parks did nothing is short sighted....

Sort of disagree on the drink line. If you have 10 people waiting only for pizza can you not skip ahead to get a drink? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I thought KI advertised for next year a season long drink cup? Also not sure it's line cutting when you walk in to purchase a drink but not food so you do not stand in the food line... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I think the price for what is offered is a nice balance. I wouldnt mind paying a little less to do a meal and snack plan or a little more for 2 meals and a snack plan. I thought the 4 hours would be bad this year but it really isnt. I can go around 2/3 eat then grab a bite on the way out of the park around 7/8 or so.