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I would love to see KI get a large scale log flume back. I feel like KCKC and Diamondback could have coexisted.
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Cavern of Terror-> Kenton's Cove BLSC-> Antique Cars AND the Eagles BBoBH-> Phantom Theater
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If I had a ton of money I would build a park of that nature on the Beach's property. I find high ropes, go karts, mini golf courses, etc too underwhelming to be placed inside a park like KI. That being said, however, I think all of what I said would work well as its own thing and make Warren County a multi day destination. Part of me was disappointed Cedar Fair never made a separate Dinosaurs Alive park. Imagine KI having a 3rd park off property where guests payed separate admission but there would be more put into it- sorta like what you would get at a resort.
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Controversial opinions that'll get you punched by a KI fan
SonofBaconator replied to SonofBaconator's topic in Kings Island
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Velocicoaster, Best in the world?
SonofBaconator replied to coaster sally's topic in Other Amusement Parks & Industry News
I love Maverick honestly. Back row still gets me to this day. -
Velocicoaster, Best in the world?
SonofBaconator replied to coaster sally's topic in Other Amusement Parks & Industry News
This is a general question and not one meant to bash or praise any manufacturer but what is the difference between intense and painful? For example I personally experience headbanging pain on Raptor and Rougarou but I would consider Maverick intense, which is a coaster I frequently enjoyed. -
Velocicoaster, Best in the world?
SonofBaconator replied to coaster sally's topic in Other Amusement Parks & Industry News
How does one define intense? I always felt that that honor was given to I-305. If this thing is more intense than a low to the ground giga then wow -
People tend to lose their heads over these types of rumors
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Merging two chains
SonofBaconator replied to SonofBaconator's topic in Other Amusement Parks & Industry News
If I was Cedar Fair and I was interested in acquiring BGW, I would push platinum passes where they could also hit up Dorney and Carowinds that are a few hours away. That or I would create a special pass for the Virginia parks that gets you access to just Kings Dominion and Busch Gardens Williamsburg. I still think just pushing Platinum passes would be the better route. In terms of diversification I think that if both Virginia Parks were under the ownership of Cedar Fair one of the parks would have to change. These two parks have competed with one another for decades trying to outdo each other so I think that it would be hard to have them coexist in the same chain without one of them changing. Hypothetically speaking, if Cedar Fair had control of both parks, I think Kings Dominion would be the one to change since it has already changed a lot over the past couple decades. They lost Volcano which was arguably one of their best coasters, and the rest of their coasters, with exception to Intimidator 305 and Dominator, are on the smaller side. I don't think there would necessarily be a need to close Kings Dominion considering how populated the east coast and mid atlantic regions are but one park would have to be dominant. They could give Kings Dominion more unique rides that you wouldn't find at Busch Gardens. They would not have to be extremely thrilling but just unique enough to make Virginians want to travel to both parks multiple times. -
Discussing Land and Space in and around Vortex
SonofBaconator replied to Klabergian Empire's topic in Kings Island
Sorry but I don't want anything crossing over or coming near to The Beast's land. Orion has been the only coaster to come close and that's as far as I would like it to go. Personally whatever replaces Vortex, I hope they use the cleared land and nothing more. Vortex had a low angle lift hill which took up a lot of space where as most manufacturers nowadays incorporate steeper lift hills to save space. -
Here's a scenario- the amusement park industry has been deeply affected by Covid-19 forcing chains to look into mergers. What two chains would you merge together and why? This is purely hypothetical and not meant to be taken seriously- although I ask that you be realistic. I'll start- Herschend and Sea World Entertainment Herschend now operates 4 amusement parks in the southern US: Dollywood, Silver Dollar City, Wild Adventures, and Kentucky Kingdom. This chain is trying to grow. Now look at Sea World Entertainment who operates 6 parks: SEA Orlando/San Antonio/San Diego, Busch Tampa/Williamsburg, and Sesame Place. This chain is trying to recover from the animal rights controversy that has painted them in a negative light for years. Combining the chains would bring a grand total of 10 parks (as well as their water parks and Herschend's other attractions and hotels.) This chain would become more dominate the southern market with 6 parks (7 if you include SWSA) and have a steady presence in both east and west coast markets. Platinum passes would allow people to visit multiple parks throughout the southern US.
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Instead of a double station, how about an unload station like you see on Millennium Force, BLSC, or Flight of Fear? The trains could unload in the unload station and the cars could stay vertical when entering the station to board passengers.
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Velocicoaster, Best in the world?
SonofBaconator replied to coaster sally's topic in Other Amusement Parks & Industry News
An interesting trend- parks with Intamins are getting more B&Ms and parks with B&Ms are getting Intamins. Its a balance of sorts -
The Amusement Park Railroad Thread
SonofBaconator replied to SonofBaconator's topic in Other Amusement Parks & Industry News
Some more stills of #12s old look Notable differences: larger stack, blue domes, blue headlamp brackets, and the name "Tecumseh" -
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Velocicoaster, Best in the world?
SonofBaconator replied to coaster sally's topic in Other Amusement Parks & Industry News
Add a few B&Ms -
Velocicoaster, Best in the world?
SonofBaconator replied to coaster sally's topic in Other Amusement Parks & Industry News
I mean when you hire a company to build rides that break 300 and 400ft as well as 100mph, you're going to draw in crowds; that's pretty much a given. The issue is when those said rides suffer maintenance wise because of their innovations and people can't always ride them. -
I agree, that was super underwhelming. It would be cool to see them go all out one year. Paramount did a cool show where a soldier would come home for the holidays
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Velocicoaster, Best in the world?
SonofBaconator replied to coaster sally's topic in Other Amusement Parks & Industry News
I could see an argument for that honestly. The most maintenance stricken coaster we ever had was SOB. I could not imagine what ops would be if we got an Intamin coaster. At Cedar Point it was pretty much a given that Dragster and Maverick would experience downtime with Wicked Twister and Millennium Force always being on the table. Love their rides, hate their downtime. RMC can be thrown in the same boat. Look how long Steel Vengeance was down to one train ops in 2018, look what's happening to Lightening Rod, I think even Twisted Timbers had some issues. The risk/reward ratio tips towards safety and reliability. Enthusiasts might get underwhelmed by parks that don't have Intamins or RMCs but GP, the people who make the parks the most money, could care less. Universal most likely went for Intamin because they can afford the downtime. Their parks are open year round so it hurts them less if one of their rides goes down vs if they were seasonal. With a chain like Cedar Fair, they can't really afford to purchase rides that could experience maintenance issues because they're only open few months out of the year. Everytime a ride is down, its hitting their wallet. When it comes to rides that experience downtime, the ROI is much greater for year round parks than it is for seasonal parks. As for Pantheon at BGW, I feel like they're just trying to outcompete with KD. If Cedar Fair operated a Kings Island sized park in a warm climate year round, I'm sure Cedar Fair would look to Intamin. -
I believe I heard that correctly somewhere. The boilers have to be inspected every year- I know Disney World's are inspected by the state once a year and once by their own people. The train did operate during Fear Fest and Winterfest back in '05 if my memory serves correctly. The solution would be to not operate it on slow days, operate one locomotive for haunt and one for Winterfest (they did run one train for Winterfest back in '17), or simply spend thousands of dollars to aquire a 3rd 36" gauge steam locomotive and expand the railroad shed; the rail fan in me wants the ladder. I'm sure from an operations standpoint its just easier to run the trains during Winterfest, especially when there's more attractions open during Haunt.
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I would love to see the train return for haunt. I wouldn't have the passengers disembark halfway through like they used to. I would have the train go past a ton of spooky scenes and live actors.
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Kings Island Camp Cedar to Open Spring 2021
SonofBaconator replied to IndyGuy4KI's topic in Kings Island Central Newsroom
@jsus I was referring to the actual campsites for rvs being close to $109 -
As much of a B&M fan as I am I personally would be happy without a B&M flyer from an ops standpoint. I'd be concerned with the downtime due to the censors
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Kings Island Camp Cedar to Open Spring 2021
SonofBaconator replied to IndyGuy4KI's topic in Kings Island Central Newsroom
Cedar Point charges around that much