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If it goes to Rivertown have it replace the box If it goes to Oktoberfest it could be cool to see Slingshot be relocated somewhere else in the park and the Screamin' Swing go there but that seems less likely

The grade begins around where Mystic Timbers's tunnel/turn around is closer to the back of the engine house. If you ever ride it, you'll start to hear the engines begin to accelerate. If you skip to 1:34 you can hear the engine start to accelerate as it approaches the curve In this video skip to 1:49 and you can see the engineer opening up the throttle and hearing the engine work up the hill

Which is why I think they favored GCI for some reason. Maybe at the time GCIs seemed more affordable? They produced 4 of them for us since 2007 after all. You'd see them at Valleyfair, Worlds of Fun and CGA which are mid and lower tier parks. Kings Island was the first big CF park to get one. What's super strange to me is that Dorney is speculated to get a GG shuttle when GCI is headquartered nearby. You'd think Dorney would've gotten a GCI. I still have a strange feeling we'll get a GG like Oscar's Wacky Taxi for Planet Snoopy for some reason. Back to Cedar Point, a Gravity Group would be cool but I think the chain's relationship with GCI is too strong. The only way I could see CP getting a GG would be to differentiate themselves more from KI.

Its funny that they didn't since KI was set up like a Disney Park with its layout yet our trains don't lap around the park. KI was relatively smaller compared to where it is today so maybe they didn't think having the train go around the whole park was worth it.

If I recall, CF has only worked with GG on retracks. The Dorney project will be their 1st time working with them. I thought there was a specific reason why CF has been working solely with GCI over GG but I can't remember why.

I don't see one in our distant future to be honest. The enthusiast in me wants me to be wrong but it wouldn't make sense. We don't need one to be quite honest. Racer or The Beast need to be left to GCI to maintain. As for a ground up model, I don't see us getting one. I could go in more depth but I just don't see it with where the park is currently at. Maybe next decade might be more realistic with older coasters biting the dust but even then I just see us getting more B&Ms. If this was a perfect world I'd want something lower to the ground like Untamed. If we ever got an RMC, I think it would be something like that.

Someone made a pretty good concept of a Cedar Point GCI

I wouldn't mind a clone if it's unique. For example I wouldn't mind a Premier Sky Rocket II as they're kinda like the Vekoma Boomerangs of today- albeit way better. Just heavily theme it and I'll endorse it.

I think they'd have to get permission from KI to drive down the stretch of road by the dorms since its their property which it where I feel the partnership would come in. I think if guests at the campground wanted to spend the extra money to park in the lot and not wait on a shuttle that's completely fine. I think its all about convenience. If you're a guest at the campground you'd have the option to either shuttle or drive yourself. Maybe the campground could factor in an additional $10 to each nightly stay. For example, a site would have an actual nightly rate of say $60 but they actually charge $70 to cover the cost to operate the "complimentary" shuttle. Maybe with that money they could pay KI to allow a shuttle on their stretch of Columbia Road.

That's my argument. If I'm shuttling in a 6 person family, I'll sacrifice the $20 parking fee.

Going back to the shuttle convo, I just realized Columbia Road goes right by where that huge campground is being built Maybe they could work out a partnership with the campground to shuttle their guests back and forth

A question every enthusiast asks, what'll be Cedar Point's next coaster? While I personally think the park needs to focus on other things such as infrastructure, a new roller coaster will always be the topic of conversation. The park has always been creative with their roller coaster placements and fitting them in tight spots only removing less popular thrill rides. The last time a coaster was sacrificed for another was Disaster Transport back in 2012. With that in mind, I personally don't see Cedar Point adding a new coaster without removing one. What coaster would be up for debate. Maybe they could work something out but they've been tight recently. Some speculations I've heard from fans are a GCI either replacing Wicked Twister as a boardwalk like Cyclone at Coney Island. I've also heard fans say a GCI could replace Cedar Creek Mine Ride. I've seen concepts for a B&M Flyer over Adventure Island as well. I've also heard talks of an RMC T-Rex and a S&S Axis coaster. What are your guy's most rational thoughts?

Make sure its green too

To be fair, I never saw Adventure Time as a Nickelodeon show. If it was, it wouldn't be the same in my opinion. Adventure Time appealed to a demographic that I don't think Nickelodeon was trying to target. I think it fit better in with Cartoon Network to be honest.

How bout no Now I gotta look and see what else I can get lucky on

Looking back at this I still can't believe I predicted that and how close it was. I couldn't have predicted what they did to the Killmart building though. Anyone got anything else they want me to predict?

I want to say it was in the 90s. Originally they had a blue consist and a green consist Mid America's #5 was acquired in the late 80s and that was green. I'd like to think they repainted both #5 and #9 at the same time. I don't really think of blue when I think of Africa. #601 showed up in the mid 90s and was painted to match #4s train.

When was #9 repainted red?

I might get banned for this but you've given him too much slack. There are people who have been fed up for a while with the blatant misinformation. I argue there are certain people who cry wolf just to get the attention. Look at all the arguments (aside from mine) that have flooded this thread. Meanwhile there is a website, that we're pretty much all familiar with by now, that's racking up the views and hits because their content is still popping up and being shared on this site. I made a logical argument about a shuttle. I provided a solid argument as to why I think it might be a shuttle, showed renderings (albeit basic) to support my argument and gave personal examples. What you don't see me arguing is whether I'm right no not. I could be dead wrong. Now the member (members I should say) are making vague claims with no logical argument. They provide pictures but very little context. Its the same thing we've encountered time and time again- "We just know. Everyone else is wrong. Etc etc." So many threads have gotten derailed. I've tried to be as civil and polite as I can possibly be. I try to hear people out and get their side but its getting old. There's blatant lies and inaccuracies that were never nipped in the bud and now they've blossomed into a vine that has snared the very idea of a decent discussion. People are using this site for their personal gain. I go on this site because the world is in a very dark place and this is the one place I can go to unwind and have fun with people who have similar interests with me. I don't want to see people making false statements just to promote themselves and their website. I can't even hit the ignore button anymore because so many people get triggered, (and rightfully so) that they respond to the offending member so we can still see what's going on. Like I've mentioned earlier this month, the park looks at this site, people on the internet look at this site, news reporters look at this site. If we continue to let all this false information plague our discussions then we're doing a disservice to ourselves and the people who I mentioned above.

Don't get me wrong I'd love to have one but I think people would make the connection eventually

I thought of that but two words prevent that: Flight Commander. I think what happened back in the early 90s with Flight Commander would turn the park away from something similar. Kinda like how I think Magic Mountain will never get a S&S 4d freespin.

"Come work at Kings Island where you can live in our new dorms but you have to walk nearly a mile to get to work. Oh also if you work a closing shift you have to walk that whole way back in the dark." I'm done arguing, its giving me a headache at this point.