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Baby I'm ready to go...

Yep, did that walking to The Beast looking at the Diamondback supports and seeing how easy it is to mistake shadows for cracks, and that is literally right next to it and not some digital zoom of a phone photo taken from Eiffel Tower LOL...

I wonder if that is what all the survey markers are for....

Or it shows that when you digital zoom in that what looks like a crack is dirt or shadows since GateKeeper is now running? Or maybe Fury was cracked last week. Or maybe Fury was both LOL.

Exactly LOL because it is merchandise that staffs VIP not Food and Beverage....oh wait F&B frequently have machines with no ice in them too LOL. They store ice in a cooler and then bang ice bag on the ground to break it up and then let the bag that was touching the ground touch the water and unwashed bare hands help get the ice into the fancy cooler...

You forgot how they treat the Prestige pass holders LOL . I wouldn't expect them to provide carbonated Coca-Cola LOL. Prestige would get flat drinks. Heck even when they were providing bottled drinks, everyone said they were kinda warm LOL.

Love the quote lol: "A “giga” roller coaster has a drop between 300 and 399 feet, according to Kings Island amusement park in Ohio." https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/roller-coaster-crack-support-pillar-110524488.html

Stuck at a fair. https://www.yahoo.com/news/roller-coaster-riders-stuck-upside-185347430.html

While I am sure there will be some that won't ride, but the ride didn't fail and nobody was injured or died and other rides with much worse incidents had lines once those rides reopened. I imagine what ever TTD becomes will have the longest lines at CP.

You had me going for a second about Levi lol

Plus there is no waste line for the inevitable fill up the ice in the cup and dump it because you got to much then fill the cup and dump it cause it's flat lol. Doesn't mean they won't add at some point but I wouldn't count on it. We are more likely to get 2 ounce sample bottles lol. They got your money...

It has been down for several days for the 4th prep. Don't worry it will return.

Well it was a very busy Saturday....

From what I read, the person that took the photo that is circulating around mentioned that she did not zoom in to the photo she took a week ago until AFTER the break happened. She has been posting and making it clear, but nobody is listening because sensationalism sells LOL, that she did not know about the crack prior to the video of the full break. And when you see the original photo compared to the zoom, that was a lot of digital zoom so there is no guarantee that it was a crack. Maybe it was or maybe it was the lighting and shadows at that time giving the appearance of a crack.

It was the fastest to leave after getting painted

Excellent 1st post here! Reading what you said in layman's terms - steel generally works best in tension and that design, while it may look awkward to the armchair engineer, is probably (and properly) designed with that in mind. That diagonal member would be the tension component. Based on your experience and what can be seen so far, would the weld at that location be a likely candidate to be looking at to see if it were poor or the material wasn't up to strength, or could running the coaster for extended periods near the minimum operating temperature had contributed to brittleness in the weld resulting in failure?

^they are earning their pay with that job. Can you imagine the difficulty of that having to constantly hook and unhook and the angles. I am guessing they felt like it was unsafe to use the inspection crawl car. I suspect this incident will probably increase the frequency use of said car.

Diamondback got that treatment in recent years as well.

#PlanetSnoopygone2024 lol

Yes it is, as are other B&Ms in the chain (except Fury).

I still think it is going to come down to an outside influence like I mentioned above rather than a design issue. I think this would have shown before on one of their many coasters if it were a design defect. You all don't think a manufacturing defect is the reason? A properly designed support can still have a defect during the manufacturing phase that could show up later. That cracked and broke where two support columns come together. We can't tell from the picture whether the angled one was welded onto the vertical one or if it was cast as one piece, but regardless it could be a defect from the factory. B&M tends to be conservative in their designs. All the Intamin fan-boys say B&M are forceless coasters - guess what - that same forceless opinion is due to their conservative designs. And look at it from an overall standpoint - yeah this looks bad (and it is) but the coaster did not fail to complete its circuit and nobody got hurt and heck probably nobody even could tell that rode it, so the overall design did its part to keep everyone safe. Who knows how many cycles it ran completely broke - do we think this person lucked out and got video of the first break? Maybe it ran 4 days before this was noticed. This further shows the conservative design. Heck B&M may come out and say the ride could still go without that support LOL. There are lots of supports in that area and one by itself failing did not cause catastrophic failure. They may say this wasn't a support designed to hold up the track, but rather to help minimize the movement of a passing a train and as such is redundant as part of their conservative design. They could very well plate it at that location as a temporary fix and re-open while a new part is being made - but they would have to weigh the PR side on would that fix and get it open be better than keeping it closed until a new part is made. Contrast that to SOB when a support member broke.... The other B&Ms in our park and others are operating today, so they probably do not think it is a design flaw impacting other similar supports.

What is scary, and not confirmed or substantiated, is that other outlets are saying that a news channel has been scouring pictures people have taken of Fury and it shows this crack starting over a week ago. Here is a picture someone claims was taken 6/24. Is that the crack starting or bad lighting?

Agreed. I think if it were a design issue, it would have popped up somewhere else. Unless they cut into their factor of safety for this ride to get the coaster in under a certain budget number, but again I don't see B&M doing that. I think an outside influence as I mentioned will be the contributing factor. It certainly sucks for many parks this year to have their "signature" ride go down or not operate. Question will be do we wake up in the morning to B&Ms across the country being shut down as a precaution or have they already concluded it wasn't a design error or was something specific to that ride?

It could be lots of things other than a design failure as many coasters from different manufacturers have similar type designs, so it may not be a design flaw. Especially since B&M tends to be one of the more conservative designs. It could be a bad batch of steel (AKA King Cobra) or water somehow penetrated internally and was rusting from within or running it in lower temps during Winterfest and Jan-March contributed to brittleness in the steel (and thus minimum operating temps need to be raised as maybe that operating requirement was developed with a temp in mind that it would be much warmer during the day or had been warmer and gets cooler in the evening compared to a temperature just getting to and settling around that temp all day) or a manufacturing defect like a bad weld or bad casting where those two support pieces come together. I am sure a thorough investigation will be done to determine the cause.

But not fruit infused lol