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Looks like a very boring coaster. Maybe even nauseating.

^And that's assuming Kinzel and Co. aren't out of touch with reality, which seems to be the case of late.

Can't agree with Rick on this one. The last thing CP needs to do is raise their drink and food prices. They are already outrageous as it is. I think raising those prices could price themselves right out of the market considering that it seems that this country is heading for a recession. People can't afford to go there now, what would make them think that the GP is going to want to pay more when they are already getting tight with money?

I remember hearing that rumor about The Bat way back in the late 80's. Never heard this one about The Vortex. Although, I know for a fact neither one is true.

Look Here in our own forums. Gordon Bombay took some new pics.

KI already has a Frog Hopper type of ride...Plankton's Plunge.

In your opinion the hyper coasters don't resemble wooden coasters. That's not to say that they do or don't. That was just a little info. I heard years ago. And of course, each design is going to be unique in some way. By your logic then, all wood out and back coasters would have to be exactly the same. And, we all know that they don't have to be clones of each other to basically be doing the same thing.

Magnum would be the best example of this. Theoretically, yes. Realistically, no. Not all steel coasters without inversions have an out-n-back type layout. But, that is where the design came from. Most hypers have the out-n-back basic design. Other examples; Behemoth, Nitro, Apollo's Chariot, Magnum XL200, Steel Dragon 2000, Goliath, Titan, Steel Force, Fujiyama. I'm sure there's a few more, just can't remember all of them. Steel coasters without inversions not modeled after out-n-backs; Phantom's Revenge(although originally a looper), Flashback (SFMM), or even Backlot: Stunt Coaster.

I knew that GL had some history to it, but I've never read up on it. Cool info.

There is also the rumor that headspin may head to Kings Dominion to replace Hypersonic XLC for 2009.

Hm thats funny. I could have swore they each had their own unique deisgn. Mind showing us which 200 foot and 300 foot wood coasters they were designed after? I'm sorry. Where did I say that they matched wood coasters height? Nowhere. The basic model of a large first hill followed by air time hills. They're modeled after out and back coasters.

There's no IF about it. It was the one from Geauga lake.

Why would they state it's used?

^ I agree Tigger. This is not the only message board where I hear enthusiasts comparing CF to SF, and I think CF seems to have had a plan in mind whiles SF surely didn't look like they had any plan at all. What SF was counting on was that coaster installation after coaster installation was the magic cure all for their attendance. Never mind the poor customer service, the rides that stood SBNO for years, and the general uncleanliness of the parks. The two chains really don't mirror each other in the least, as far as I'm concerned. CF still needs to improve their customer servie and get a hold of their outrageous food prices. So, they are not perfect, but it appears that they strive for perfection when SF strives for mediocrity.

I kinda cheated though. He is a friend on myspace and it reminded me yesterday that it would be his birthday today. So, I sent him a message there and then last night, here. Again, Happy Birthday!

I thought the same thing too, Tggr. I think it's about time Dick Kinzel retired.

And now, it appears that Thunderhawk will be back to its' original colors.

Wow! That looks like a pretty wild ride!

I thought it looks better with the ST colors than the TH colors.

None of the above. How about Bayern Curve? 2700th post! Woohoo!

Well, most people always considered CP ahead of SFMM considering Flashback has been SBNO for years now. Also, I thought Guiness listed CP with the most coasters, not SFMM.

I went only two times and had a great time there. No, it was not KI or even CP, but that's what made it different. I actually preferred GL's entrance to CP's or KI's.

I haven't kept up with this coaster. What were the legal troubles they were having?

I heard that there were supposed to be some more food sponsorships in SF's parks.

What I am really interested in, since we already know what kind of coaster it is, is how heavy the theming will be. Should do them good that the Dark Knight movie is released this year.