BeeastFarmer

I understand that, but issues will always present themselves when something new rolls out. In this case, either the small minority that has gone to Knott's over the last two months have not had an issue or they did not speak out about it. Mike Kootnz went over and above to solve this problem and it sounds fixed, and hopefully a memo has been shared thru the chain. As Kings Dominion and Carowinds open soon, we will see if it's repeated. Even though one customer experience is too many, the truth is that this affected a very small percentage of one percent of the customer base.

Knotts is the only park open this year. The pass system needs work. For instance, I went to Carowinds before Kings Island a few years ago. Because my pass has not been "processed", I had to pay for parking. Guest services refunded me, but for 2016, my home park was Carowinds because of this. If the merger commences, I'd expect more frustration until they commit to a unified system. It's my understanding that Cedar Fair adapted Paramount's ticketing system...this is now at least 20 years old. Six makes it very difficult to be a pass holder in that they make you process at a park you bought at, and have a deadline to do so. Plus they have 2572 different pass options. It sounds like Mr. Kootnz had to solve another problem that a park vp/GM shouldn't have to solve by talking to Knott's Berry Farm. This is very bamboozling to me, but shows his commitment to guest satisfaction.

Gotta represent Lex too!

It is a daunting situation. Before a new floor opened in the hospital I work at, they took an opportunity for voluntary active shooter drills. The gyst is "run, hide, fight" in that order. It was as realistic as it could be without a full compliment of staff and clients. Hiding in a locked bathroom hearing chaos and gunfire, even though it was simulated, was terrifying. And waiting for an "all clear" and seeing simulated results still gives me flashbacks six years later

And to add to the fray...I called Kings Island today to ask about this issue. The lady I spoke with told me that parking is NOT included at Knott's and Canada's Wonderland. When I mentioned that the list of benefits when I bought the pass said it included all Cedar Fair parks, she said...wait for it...terms and conditions are subject to change at any time for any reason, including park choice.

As long as people renew their passes with all this degradation, they will continue to cut. Here's the 2025 entertainment announcement: New for 2025! Kings Island will amaze guests by turning on the royal fountain for three minutes each hour from June 20- July 1!* *Conditions subject to change with or without notice.

Hmmm...maybe brighter days could be ahead. PRKS and or Herschend could be winners. Or there could be massive losers as private equity swoops in and either dismantles and sells piecemeal or cuts even worse to bost numbers. Sometimes, though, private equity can be good. Look at what cerebrus has done with Albertsons since like 2006. Bought back the majority of the company that was divested to a wholesaler and reuinted the company, opened stores, acquired regional chains and then swallowed Safeway. Took the company public again and now a merger attempt with Kroger, and if it fails, Albertsons will get a multi million dollar payout from Kroger.

Wow. The degradation continues.

And now I'm hearing that the all park passport will not cover Canadian parking as well

I went to Knott's in 2017 with a platinum. There was some information floating around that Knott's did not include free parking. Of course that was seven years ago (yikes!) and a different pass, but I had no issues. I only ran into issues with the meal and drink plan since ki wasn't open yet but those were resolved easily. For me personally, it's not that big of a deal unless this becomes chain wide. That would end my all parks run. It seems as is Cedar Fair is becoming more like six flags with unneeded pass complexity.

Last weeks Coaster Radio featured a segment on the assumption of the removal of the ride. Can't remember if it was a first drop or quick hit.

Exciting news from Knotts:

SIX earnings call, in a very brief read, looks dismal. FUN would be wise, if possible, to renegotiate...if they were in a strong position, which they are not. Of course, this is from a cursory glance and I'm not a financial expert.

If sharing your content on this forum to drive traffic to your site for clicks, using a clickbate title is hate... Oh, then there is this recent gem where you "hate" on someone else....

Good grief! How is this "breaking news?" It has been released by the park on their channels and discussed here. I mean, let's call the OG iPhone "breaking news" in your channel's next segment!

What a great surprise! Came home after work and gym, and my Tablo DVR had recorded the Brady Bunch Cincinnati Kids !

Looked at the camera, looks like we have support and track in place.

I don't think so because that's where Fess Parker wanted to build his park. If I remember correctly, they had moved forward with the Kings Mills site before they got the banks to push Fess out. I wonder what things would be like if we had Walton/Verona Island Instead? ( Yes I know that's further south than Fess's site).

I see the Eiffel Tower, B&M track and support, and a palm tree representing Soak City. I can see part of the "l" at the end of KI Central and the line that's under the current image. I also see "the woods".

@Hawaiian Coasters 325...you sure like your brews, wine, and saloons don't you?

They all look like a 4th grader blindfolded, in the middle of Mammoth Cave drew them.

Nickelodeon characters are trashy.

Like sands through the hourglass and Voban through the deck boards, such are the incomplete projects that get shelved. Meanwhile, there is a great history book by @KIghostguy and an awesome coffee table book by @Shaggy that can fill the historical needs.

Kings Dominion and Kentucky Kingdom that I know of off the top of my head.

Like many other things from last season.. Not washing midways ( moms notice), trash bins overflowing...less monsters and Christmas characters... People do notice outside of the enthusiast community. These decisions eventually will bite them in the row 18.