IBEW_Sparky

Id LOVE to have every park in the country do what KK did, this is another example (in my opinion) of that park "doing it right" as others should do. Parks ARE NOT, repeat for those in the back, ARE NOT intended to be babysitters for obnoxious adolescents.

And after observing people in the US across all different demographics in the past year and a half (yes, it's a hobby of mine) none of this surprises me in the slightest. This all stems from the 10 to the 100th power of causes du' jour that people have to cling to in order to exist on a day to day basis in this country lately (again greatly exacerbated in the last 15-18 months) and combined with people who have become somewhat institutionalized mentally with the lockdowns and restrictions caused by that thing I will no longer mention in my day to day vocabulary and the fact that everyone just HAS to be "right" and everyone else wrong. Add a nearly 90 degree day to that, and we have this result, which will be the norm instead of the exception for all of this year, and likely beyond.

I promise you it wasn't Mr. McClure at fault, look above. Not to mention, this new GM spent 16 years working for Disney, has anyone stopped for one second to think about WHY Frenchie and this new CP GM left Disney after so long.... an entity that traditionally treats its EXECUTIVES (and no other employee) very well? One doesn't normally give up a spot like that 100% voluntarily. Edited to say that I will be one of those not renewing my pass for 22. I honestly would not have renewed it this year had it not been carried over from 2020, and no its not because Im an entitled, whiney douche, it is simply because it is time for me to move on to other things and if one particular person ends up moving to Sandusky in the next year or so I will simply go with them and have them purchase my FL+ so I can get it at the reduced price.

I have to wholeheartedly agree with both the forgettable, and overrated statements. I dont know, maybe its because I over-rode the crap out of it in 09, but it has been an epic snore machine to me since about 2011, regardless of what row or time of day I ride. EDIT:ANd before anybody starts with the "Youre just anti B&M" garbage, I dont want to hear it.... I really like Banshee and have thought since day one it hands Raptor its arse in a basket.

By chance, do they still have the manually operated scrambler with the rotary crank speed control, or have they replaced it with electronic controls? I grew up in DSM, and while I didnt really appreciate the park while I was growing up.... like the second my Friends started getting licenses we rolled to WOF as opposed to going 35 minutes to Adventureland.... I went back in 2013 and really had a great time. Unfortunately, various circumstances have prevented me from returning, I havent even ridden Monster yet :-(.

Thats how KK and HW did it last year (though they both did temp checks) and in my eyes they "did it right" from the start. Way to go DW.

Ive always felt the same way about Maverick, although with the way the track is currently configured, I dont know if I would want to experience the water cannon turn at 70+ as I think that would rival 305's first turn in regards to possible grey/blackout problems.

My advertising catch phrase would be "The only Beemer on this property is my 740il. If you want to nap, we have a resort on property, if you want to pull Gs, we have the coasters that will do it for you." OH, and EDIT: My prices for all food and snacks would only be 10% higher than what you would pay for the same thing out of park and my drinks would be free a'la HW, for exactly that reason Brad, Id still make bank!!

That is an (unfortunate) fact, although it baffles me how the one-trick pony that is Valravn... or Dive Turkey as I call it... can be such a draw, I just never got the hype. I do enjoy GK, and I absolutely do agree with your fundamental point, they Love both of those coasters as can clearly be seen by the lines. Face it, when an Intamin (other than Millie) has a two hour line, we know that is likely due to sometimes multiple ride stoppages. When a B&M has a two hour line, we know its very likely it's because its a popular ride because even a mediocre ride crew can (usually ram people through on a B&M.

Exactly this, though with me my favorite coaster is SV, many others in my top 10 are Intamin. Even I have been calling the company Intamightwork for years, and if I were laying the cash out and looking at it from the corporate side of things, Id be more apt to install a GG, Mack, Gerstlauer, GCI, or begrudgingly a B&M, though with me it would be nothing but a floorless similar to Dominator, an invert similar to Banshee, or a launched wing similar to but longer than Thunderbird. Now, if I didnt give a rip about the GP (which I absolutely do not as it is) or a lot of money sitting SBNO for 25% of the season, my park would be known as RMC and Intaminville.

I still clearly remember the day in 16 at CP when we found that out at Panda together, and I also clearly remember us rolling right out of the restaurant.

Exactly this!!! When I was Director of Detail at a Ford/Chrysler dealership, I had one of my employees come up to me and ask "Do you think you can talk to the sales desks at Ford and Chrysler, and see if they can talk to customers who get deals done after 630 (we closed at 7) if they can come pick their vehicle up in the morning so us closers dont have to stay late". I just looked at him like "You did not just seriously ask me that?" I gave him the facts... and this is how it should be anywhere in the Country that charges a client a fee for a service or item... I said "Look, if you go into Best Buy at 850pm and start looking and asking about an $8,000 flat screen 8k TV, do you think for a second that salesperson you are talking to is going to kick you out at 9? H ell no, they are going to talk to you until midnight if they have to in order to make that sale, and the same goes in spades for that $75k F250 Platinum ole Bubba is looking at". Closing time is 8/9/10 pm (should be midnight from July 1-August 30) therefore the closing time for any and all services... including ride access... should be closing time, MAAAYYYBE 30 minutes prior like bars do with last call. It also relates to my employees who would come to me about their pay rate (which was disgustingly too low). I did everything in my power in a losing battle against ownership to change that, and my employees knew it, but the bottom line that they agreed with was they willingly and voluntarily took the position with said low pay, much like any employee willingly and voluntarily takes a position knowing its hours and possible late off times going into it.

@Shaggy, another good example of a ride that park goers of ALL ages generalize is the Dodge-Ems. it doesn't matter if you name that ride Dodge-Ems, Rough Riders, Joe Cool's Dodgem School, or The I-275/I-71 Interchange At Rush Hour, 90% percent of people say "Let's go ride the bumper cars".

The perfect world answer on what current ownership is thinking is "Oh ****, get Fred Grubb on the line" but in reality, I recall hearing and reading rumbles across different platforms (this was months ago people, so no I didn't save every link to my Mac) about lingering financial issues stemming initially from the T-Bird installation.

@Shaggy I realized later as I was dozing off (yes Ive got one of those binary minds that just doesnt shut off so I think of things at odd times) that I left that statement more broad than I meant to, I do apologize for mis-speaking in that manner. I own my screwups, unlike fanbois/girls, and thank you for calling me on it. I also admit that, while I was nearly sure it was Herschend, I did have a wild off the wall thought of another player possibly in it in the shadows who does have that $100+ price point on passes, but when I read the group operates 9 parks I realized that thought was invalid because the one in my mind only operates one park.

I dont know what the deal is with the confused look, the player in the game has park season passes at $100+. so it should be me that shows confusion as to why you don't think they will do the same with this park..... and Im not speaking specifically of Herschend. Like Shaggy said, not yet, there are others at that price point as well.

You should have showed them a pic of the ground now, and told them the wet ground from the snow sank it like quicksand, I bet they would have bit.

Lighting Run, on the way out of the park on Labor day after marathoning Storm Chaser for 90 minutes.

Id suggest buying a 2021 pass now, before it goes up to $100+ after the buy.

In that case, it is up to you as to whether you wish to trust a surgeon or a scientist.... again Im saying ITS ALL UP TO YOU (collective you) and I have no alliance or personal like towards either.

Honestly I don't think they will need to, humans have a difficult (99.99% impossible) time keeping things quiet, especially with things like this. Those who don't will most assuredly speak up amongst others about it, which may or may not result in the actions Oldschool mentioned.

That depends on whether you are talking about gold for the owner or gold for the enthusiasts.

Im retiring after this year, and I chose this year since the Plat is free anyway I may as well, and I was genuinely hoping for something semi-similar to 2019s enjoyment level in my last year... and yes I completely knew going into it there would be a number of the same things this year as last and was prepared to accept it and deal. I figure I will go to attend one of the weekends during the Anniversary Celebration time period, and to get the 20th Birthday ride on Millie I didnt get last year and contend with the crowds with the nearly empty hope that they will be selling FL+. Beyond that, unless/until CP or KD get something absolutely astounding in the future... and Im talking better than SV astounding... I am refocusing my energies on racing and going back to my roots.

Crew chief-ing and helping build a car to race at Street Car Takeover in Indy in July (hopefully, maybe, with a bunch of late nights and cramming) or to spend the year testing in "private areas" to prepare it for a trip to Memphis and maybe OKC next summer.

Sorry, Im on one this morning, but I read this as "We are going to shorten the season, and see just how many Gold Passes we can sell to make the park go capacity every single weekend day and improve year end earnings while diluting the park guest experience".