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^They do that at pretty much every announcement.

The annual Six Flags announcements are tomorrow (8/30). Not sure what time, though I imagine it'll be before or around noon-ish. The only thing I've heard is that SFMM will possibly hitting the 20 coaster mark. I didn't see anything happening on my trip to NJFTP. No RMC conversion rumors that I've heard either.

I liked the music overall, but I have to say, this show was dying for an ELO or Styx song somewhere.

I feel like all the restrooms sans Festhaus' should have new AC units. They're all super humid on hot days.

An oval track that lasts nearly 3 minutes?

@VortexBFForever- Do you accept this challenge?

Uh....Kings Island opens a whole month before Cedar Point and CP has no Winterfest...

^That last paragraph in my post is directed to any SOB fan, not just you.

Where and who have you seen excitement on a SOB revival? Most if not all other coaster forums worth their salt agree with the fact that SOB shouldn't come back as well. Also, I want the SOB fanboys to define what they want. RCCA is dead, so you can't bring them back to design the park a new one (and Stengel certainly won't go near a wooden coaster ever again). Intamin hasn't built a plug n' play in over a decade (not to mention CF won't go near Intamin), and traditional wooden coasters honestly shouldn't be built anywhere near hyper coaster stats. A ground up RMC would be the best equivalent, but its not all that groundbreaking in the way SOB fanboys say they want (they just reached joined the hyper club at CP and at SFGAm with their respective track types). What is your ultimatum?

One that stays open? Are you crazy?

^For all that 'intimidation', the ride itself was quite boring. Every hill was drawn out so there was absolutely no airtime to be had, and the layout was all giant drawn out helices. The only real good part was the loop since it was made of steel and it actually went into it quite fast. Premier wooden coaster trains are very uncomfortable as well. The fixes in 2007 just made it more boring and rough. I seriously don't get the love for such a boring, bad coaster.

I also looked up Valravn's stats, and its Immelman is only 165 ft and only 20 ft shorter than Yukon, so unlikely.

I like the interaction is has with Vortex in threading through the far helix on the first drop.

Just out of curiosity, did you happen to catch that guy's reaction to the announcement?

@McSalsa- some local news stations were running with a return of SOB as a possibility adding fuel to that fire. Even my parents thought it was a possibility and they don't follow the industry.

^ @malem or @IndyGuy4KI might have some experience in that department with their dealings with KD and KBF this year. EDIT: If I were you, I'd play it safe and renew and upgrade at the park you got the Gold Passes from. I hear some CF parks can have discrepancies when switching unless you're moving to one of those parks or something which they'd be more thorough under those circumstances rather than someone renewing at a different park on a whim. Just my 2 cents.

The free Fast Lane Plus is for the park you are purchasing the passes from.

KI has the longest wooden coaster in the world, the longest inverted coaster in the world, one of the top rated hyper coasters in the world, one of the tallest Drop Towers in the world, and an assortment of other rides. Its not like KI has dropped off the map, so I don't understand this line of thought that the park needs something to put them 'on the map' when they're securely on said map. Some of the rides you mentioned as being mediocre are rides that the GP laps up (trust me, they love Diamondback and Banshee, though I will agree with you on their viewing of Firehawk). Mystic Timbers may not have had the same draw, but they obviously like it a lot regardless of how it came off. Yes, the chain saw some drop in attendance, but in going with what @stashua123 has previously brought up, the park was bound for a drop after some pretty steady growth. The ups come with the downs. I still trust KI and CF management to still be successful regardless of those ailments.

After looking at the layouts of car rides at other parks, It would be feasible to fit the entire layout on that one side. I'm guessing all those buildings and the FC pad are gone though unless they get creative. Also, this'll make for some nice photo opportunities for Racer.

Both car rides at Cedar Point had fairly good lines when I was last up there (on a day where most of the bigger coasters sans Maverick and SV had lines barely out of their stations) so they have proven that they do get their fare share of ridership.

But at the track length they said, they'd have to go under Racer, yes?

Solid addition. Pretty good location with the terrain they have at their disposal (I'm assuming they're using DA's footprint).

Solid quality on their Twitter as well. Their FB feed is abysmal.

KI confirmed on FB that it'll be live streamed.

I have one more possibility- a new entrance building.