silver2005

How, pray tell, do you conceal a 300+ ft lift hill and all the other large hills to follow? A giga is many things, but secluded isn't one of them.

Guess who's getting 100% off a NJFTP ticket due to ACE being awesome? Also, I get ACE discounts at the rest of the parks sans Knoebels. Not too shabby. I'm also using my dad's AAA membership that he gets through his former P&G employment, so I'm also saving tons on hotel costs.

^I'd consider that a bad thing. I'd never get any school work done, especially if there was coaster construction in the off season. I'd hate to have gone to Kings HS or Mason HS.

@Tera Ryzing And what law, pray tell, could people possibly be breaking with that choice? Its no different than taking that list and transferring it on here via posting.

That's not how context works.

So I noticed a few things at the KI Skylines that aren't quite up to par with the outside restaurants- - the buns aren't steamed enough - they put onions on before chili, should be the other way around to avoid having onions fall into the chili - they don't use coney racks - they put too much cheese on coneys and not enough on ways - they don't fill the way containers with spaghetti - they open up the buns too much

Or we could join the rest of the enthusiast community and call it SteVe. silver2005, dodging tomatoes hurled by Goble.

Bat has single train operations today. Not too bad for a Saturday otherwise.

Also, you're not taking into account friction and resistances between a bunch of different materials grinding together. Also the coaster doesn't spend the entire drop at a 90 degree angle of decent.

@Tera Ryzing, you obviously need a bit of a history lesson on why US parks avoid Intamin. http://rec.roller-coaster.narkive.com/wnY2sKrx/bizarre-quote-from-sandor-kernacs-of-intamin-on-the-sros-accident http://www.thebatavian.com/howard-owens/final-sheriffs-office-report-death-dariens-ride-steel-contains-new-details/27870 Rewind a bit to 2011. Darien Lake's Ride of Steel ejected a rider that had a prosthetic leg. Obviously, there was neglect from the ride operators' point of view, but Intamin also released a statement regarding the incident. Sandor Kernacs, then Intamin's US president, said that "accidents can't be avoided" and even went further to ask "the question is, what number is acceptable?" That's a big red flag for any park. It suggests that Intamin goes about its innovations and pushing of the envelope without thinking about safety. Add to that all the incidents such as broken cables, redesigns, and more accidents thereafter, and US parks simply lost Intamin's trust. Intamin hasn't once redacted their statement and instead of trying to get back into the US market, they stick with their line of thought and are focused on overseas projects. Would I like to see Intamin make a comeback? Sure. They have some cool things in their ride designs. I certainly like a lot of the coasters from them that I've ridden. But, only with a new focus on safety in addition to whatever innovations they come up with. If CF goes with another Intamin, it hopefully means Intamin has turned that corner and I would be excited for what they bring to the table. Competition is a good thing in the industry. If not, well, they only have themselves to blame.

Give Invertigo one of those newer designed SLC trains with the vest-like restraints like on Banshee. A few of the full circuit SLC's have them.

Then I-275 E is your best option for getting around downtown. I-275 W takes you a bit more out of the way as it swings all the way out to Indiana. You'd be using about 2/3 of the loop to get to I-71 that way. I-71 makes a more eastward path, so going east on the loop would be ideal.

Is this a route you take every day? If so, what are your starting and ending locations?

Agreed. I do my best to show context from my side of things the best I can. I get fired up about it because I have to devote that much energy and detail to keep myself safe in these kinds of situations. I have regular conversations about this kind of stuff with my fellow Skyline employees, customers, and my support group (in person and online) all the time. Also, I'd like to clear up that I'm not saying that there aren't good parts about the food service. Yes, the newer venues such as the Soak City and Coney BBQ places, Reds HOF Grill, the new funnel cake stand, etc are pretty good thus far. But I wish they would put that energy into the rest of their venues and show a bit of consistency across the park. Have the same quality of service at Coney BBQ as you do at, say, Festhaus. I've also been similarly critical of ride operations on here in the past, but in the last few years, I've acknowledged that they've improved. All the ride crews have been stellar in recent years, especially this season. And I do throw my fare share of compliments towards employees and GS as well.

Well, I think I found a big problem. Its a practice I didn't think KI still did with the food department anymore. The job description under food and beverage jobs is to both be able to operate a register and serve food. I think those should be two separate positions, especially with all the promotions involved in running a register. If employees are rotated so much between the two, they can't really focus on both effectively, at least at a place that's mostly seasonal and sees quite a bit of turnover. At least let them master one before letting them jump on the other. Just a thought.

Why are you taking the approach of 'if I don't see it, it must not be happening' then? You've reiterated a few time that some people don't see my view point. That works the same with your side of the argument as well. I have to be critical of food service because one thing often leads to another, and I can't afford a lot of potential mistakes that may entail, particularly if it results in poor food preparation, because of my medical condition. I HAVE to be aware of those things even if the slimmest chance of something harmful to me may happen. KI is showing that kind of behavior to me. I will be hard on the park if I need to be. My condition is an additional reason why I don't buy the meal plan. Not the entire reason, but a reason. The lack of good service I see in the older stands doesn't match that of the newer stands like the BBQ places (which to me, seems to me as KI's way of covering up the bad service by drawing people to the newer stands that are run far better) because I can have a change of mind about what I want to eat in the literal snap of a finger. The meal plan and the inconsistent quality of food across the park is a turn off for me. Again, I have other parks to compare to including other Cedar Fair parks, and none of the other ones are as bad as Kings Island (not Cedar Point, not Kentucky Kingdom, not Michigan's Adventure, not Kennywood, etc). Other parks are more consistent from stand to stand and Kings Island, in the past, has been better than what I see it now. Too many times now do I see under trained cashiers and food prep people look like deer in headlights and little transparency from the managers and GS. I don't have to point out how many times I've been to GS or complained to a food manager because frankly, that's none of your business. And I will wholeheartedly and passionately stick to my guns on this. KI management should have the training, experience, and knowledge and know how to convert criticisms into improvement. The stuff I was posting about the Freestyle machines were simply ideas on how to improve things, something for others to build a discussion on. Those of us who are disappointed in the food department know its ultimately management who decides things, but coming up with smaller solutions and compromises also builds on that. I don't think offering that wide of a variety of drinks on a machine a lot of the GP has trouble operating is a good idea, in spite of the healthier items. Just have those things available on the regular machines. Boom. Fixed. People know how to operate those better.

This is a discussion forum where we can go on about our ideas, what we're seeing, and come up our own with ideas on what the park needs to do to fix it. Also, KI management does read this forum if I'm remembering correctly, right? I see this as a supplement of going to them at guest services. People on the internet come here for information and read this. They should know what to expect before going to the park. Nothing on this site's TOS says we can't criticize the park. The whole SOB fiasco should be more than enough evidence for that. I think we're just going to have to agree to disagree.

Pa-lenty of times. To GS and managers at each restaurant. chugh43- Do you really not see anything that needs fixing? Are you so invested in it that you're willing to defend the park no matter what? I'm bringing up these complaints because I honestly want the park to improve. Do you not read the complaints on this site? There's pages and pages of stuff about the bad food department. I overhear complaints from the GP all the time.

I've been going to the park for decades now and in the past, they have shown far better food service than they are now. That's my baseline for what I expect of the park for food. They clearly aren't able and/or willing to achieve that anymore for whatever reason and seem to be the only park with these kinds of problem and don't see it fit to fix things. In other words, they're below that baseline. Every other single park I've been to has better food service than the current Kings Island. Period. There are other big reasons why I don't get the meal plan, and the lousy service is a pretty big one for me.

Well, the secluded location and the fog in the lagoon area give it a nice mysterious feel to it IMO. I rather like it a lot. I think its one of the most beautiful and underrated coasters at Cedar Point.

Maverick's theming is just so-so for me. TTD delivers the most in the theming department. I also feel Iron Dragon and CCMR have nice natural theming. Rougarou's lighting package at night with the fog is pretty rad.

Darn...Tuesdays are one of the days I serve in the chili mines.

I could use some advice on how I'm getting from Allentown to both Knoebels and Six Flags Great Adventure. Most of the Knoebels routes look a bit odd at a glance. Any and all advice for getting through/around Philly en route to Jackson, NJ during morning rush hour would be greatly appreciated. That's probably the one part of this trip I'm dreading the most from a driving standpoint.

Look, you're going to have to take away some features for this to be more efficient for the food lines. I'm trying to compromise between variety and speed/efficiency here. It isn't going to be perfect, but it would be an improvement. I'm not going to nitpick every little detail about what's being taken away.

Well, put the Freestyle machines behind the counter like they do at LaRosa's restaurants and stop letting customers fiddle with them.