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Here you go... https://www.wsls.com/news/local/2020/03/30/stay-at-home-order-issued-for-all-virginia-as-coronavirus-cases-grow/ But wait, Kings Dominion still states on their webpage a mid-May opening

And just like that, there goes Kings Dominion opening mid-May... and Busch Gardens... and lots of other attractions...

Keep in mind that announcement does say subject to change and did come out one day after they announced closed indefinitely... so maybe different marketing arms prepared different things....and this is a way to bring in revenue (deposit) and lock in a future revenue stream while they are closed... I wouldn't read anything into these announcements given all the current uncertainty. These are simply ways to manage stock expectations best they can... And Ohio schools now remote learning thru at least end of April...

I believe so, just as some other regional parks in Japan started to re-open while Disney and Universal there remain shuttered with no date given... Disney and Universal have other revenue sources to remain a functioning company that simply shut down a branch of their business...the regional ones do not...SEAS media unit isn't like an ABC lol.. This goes on for too long and you may get another media group that might snatch up a regional at a great price and get into that game to further market movies once this is all over....imagine Paramount purchasing Cedar Fair....or Universal to spread their footprint...

If the local government pays Disney to re-open and agrees to be part of the lawsuit when someone sues Disney for getting Corona because they opened too early, then yeah they may....but even then they may not...Disney gets sued enough for things that were clearly guest error; they will not take a chance on something this global... Disney will not re-open until this is mitigated - the harm to their reputation of a media exploit of tracing hundreds or thousands of cases back to them isn't worth it - if they lose the international destination status they are done...Disney would not survive as a regional attraction with it's current model... Disney isn't like a regional chain. Yeah it is hurting them without it being open, but Disney has other sources of revenue to get by with movies, streaming, TV stations, etc. Completing shutting down their amusement parks and letting all the employees go just means that source of income and expense goes away. They have other viable options for revenue to still exist as a company. What does CF have - sell more passes while they are closed...heck they aren't even earning interest on investments at this point... The chains have to re-open earlier than a Disney because they cannot afford to sit it out any longer than possible. Disney is a different animal and can wait it out... The only way the cruise industry survives at this point is to turn them into floating hospitals and then long after this is gone, the government bails them out....Without a bailout they cannot survive.

I agree...just thinking of ways they can add days the longer this goes...and at some point, even adding days will be mathematically impossible...but whatever days they do add, there will be people that it doesn't work for...

Love the optimism! I have a feeling the Florida parks will stay closed a lot longer than the regional chain parks...Disney has let too many full-timers go which I think indicates they are closed a long time and given their international destination status, I do not see them opening up until either a vaccine is available or this thing is somehow wiped clean...

Or do they try adding weeknight to Haunt...they tried Thursdays early on, but they were all washouts due to weather and they never tried again...this may be the year IF they re-open this year...

Are we surprised... https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/liberty-university-students-coronavirus-symptoms-spring-break-233555754.html

And I have mentioned this before elsewhere - for the most part our members have been very civil in their discussions - most are what-if's and disappointments compared to a true rant. Not a lot of true ranting here as can be seen on other platforms!

Regardless of how CF addresses this current situation, it is clear for at least the short term that most people are probably going to be thinking twice about pre-purchasing anything in advance and it will be interesting to see how CF addresses this aspect. There is some chatter/complaints people are making, but I think once April 11th hits and the reality is the park isn't opening soon, the Facebook posts will be off the charts in complaints and demands for refunds... That is unfortunately part of the gamble of purchasing ahead of time. It is essentially a non-refundable purchase. One purchases and expect it to be open, but there is always that what if...

The 1918 flu pandemic had 3 major waves or spikes...and the death total was highest during the 2nd wave...let's hope our elected officials learn from history... And knowing your current employment situation...it is clear you value your health over $200 (which is good!)!!!

14 day self-quarantine for you

Well to be fair - they did say they would extend Knott's by the same number of days...It is the seasonal parks that they said they would add days on... As Terpy used to say - they got your money already and what they do is subject to change at any time...Let's face it, most that purchased a season pass for 2020 did so before any operating calendar was published....most probably assumed it would be an April opening, but many could argue they also assumed 1am Haunt closings for 2020 also and aren't getting what they paid for...

That was also with a fee to roll-over to the following year...wonder if meal plans and all other add-ons would move over as well. And they could always eliminate that benefit as well. Yeah the people that bought a new pass in August got 5 months of pass privileges "free" plus all of 2020, while those that renew only get 12 months...and you are right, those that burned it up with new passes August to Winterfest did get their money's worth...Those that renewed not so much yet this year... It will be interesting to see what they do...

Oh no...hopefully you could find something else!

What about toilet paper - did they have any?

As I have mentioned in other threads - there has to be a date they are looking at that they simply remain closed the rest of the year and your pass is valid for 2021...I feel like an August opening and they would be better off to simply stay closed at that point - no corporate events are going to happen after that, vacations of people buying daily admission drops substantially, etc. and those are about 50% of their attendance... If they open in August and from then until the rest of the year 90% of those in attendance are season pass holders, they have no real income the rest of this year...and what about parks that do not have Haunt or Winterfest - not going to open them for two weeks... Any delayed opening beyond May and they will get so many requests for refunds, partial refunds, etc.... and if they don't open until July and simply say your pass is good for this year and the rest of next year...guess how many passes they sell for 2021???? No matter what they do they will get requests for refunds, etc. and people claiming "they are never getting another dime of my money", so they will look at it and do projections as to which way can they stay financially solvent...and it could mean not opening in 2020... Could this be the end of payment plans if too many people simply stop paying on them? And in the short term, they will have a difficult time selling passes for the following year in August like they typically do...people will now wait until their park opens and pay a little more... This will create a whole new way of doing business from this point forward...

It's....complicated... https://www.forbes.com/sites/evangerstmann/2020/03/25/are-stay-at-home-orders-constitutional/#7bd3b529104e https://padailypost.com/2020/03/25/are-stay-at-home-orders-constitutional-experts-have-questions/ What sucks is the freedom to allow the idiots to continue not doing their part and spreading the virus having "coronavirus parties" and traveling to spring break with no consequences takes precedence over your freedom to stay healthy....

I'm doing it right so it wouldn't directly impact me LOL...but the point I was making is when our elected officials say in one breath they are issuing a stay-at-home order and within the same breath also say they have instructed the police not to enforce it....that is how we get the images like above that @King Ding Dong posted... Why would people comply and stay home if there is no "threat" that they could get pulled over and given a ticket or be sent to jail???? Unfortunately, our stay-at-home orders are basically lip-service...

Keep in mind the original and entire intent of the single rider line is to fill the train WHEN there are open seats available AFTER all other available queue lines have been placed. The single rider lane is not to be given any preferential treatment or some ratio like regular line to Fast Lane ratios. It is not an entitled line. It is simply to fill a spot if there are any. So if they can fill every train from the regular and Fast Lane lines, then the single queue waits. If they happened to place you before they filled up the rows from the other line, then you got lucky as that is not the intent... Now what else happened to you - yeah that shouldn't happen in any scenario but many people are rude...

Just because their numbers are low doesn’t mean they don’t have it. Malaysia and India also do not have widespread access to testing capabilities and they went under extreme lockdown. In Ohio (population 11.7 million), we have tested 20,000, whereas in Malaysia (population 32.4 million) they have only tested 25,000, and India (population 1.4 Billion) has only tested 14,200. They have some of the lowest number of tests taken per population stats in the world. As they get the capability, their percentages of affected are comparable to other parts of the world…look at the graph I posted above... But hey, if you don’t test then you don’t have it right… Their lockdowns are so severe, that the police will literally beat you on the street if you are in non-compliance. Their borders are completely locked down to. Meanwhile in our country, our elected officials announce stay at home orders in one sentence, and the next sentence they state that they have told the police not to enforce it and not to pull people over and not ask where they are going…and we wonder why people in our country are not adhering to the Orders… https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-52063286 https://qz.com/india/1826387/indias-coronavirus-lockdown-brings-police-brutality-to-the-fore/

And these were countries with some of the most restrictive measures in place (see my post in the other thread on page 28 for a compare/contrast)....imagine what our second wave is gonna look like... unfortunately I see our country looking to "re-open" sooner than some of these countries did... The deadliest part of the 1918 flu pandemic was the second wave (it had three)..aren't we supposed to learn from history to not make the same mistakes....

And just like that due to second wave, some Japan parks that had re-opened have temporarily re-closed...https://www.fujiq.jp/en/news/h5f6de000001wfow.html It will be interesting to see if this closure lasts beyond the weekend... China has already started their re-closings, so I am sure this trend will continue... And our little state of Ohio now has more coronavirus cases than Japan...

Interesting graphic...a little dated, but the trending is still accurate...