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Somewhere, Anton Schwarzkoph is gagging. About the only similarities between a Wild Mouse and Wildcat is that they are both steel coasters and have the word Wild within their names. I think you missed the point, Interp. It wasn't about whether or not WildCat is a wild mouse or not. It's whether or not wild mouse coasters are the least reliable coasters out there. And, from what I know, wild mouse coasters are in fact not unreliable. And, is not a wild mouse coaster about tight turns and quick drops? Both of which WildCat has. If it's not a wild mouse, then what kind is it?

^I'm still not sure how they didn't know about the rider comfort issues with all of the computer programs out there that do the math for them. And, even though I no nothing of engineering, even I knew that taking a heartline roll at 70mph was not a good idea to start with.

^I would guess that a Wild Mouse would be far more reliable than coasters like Kingda Ka or Dragster. Since when are the mice coasters so unreliable? Wildcat at Cedar Point is like a wild mouse and it's pretty fun.

Well said, Hank. Last year at FearFest, I was waiting in line for one of the last rides on The Beast for the night. I was really tired, but my fiance' wanted to wait for the front seat. We finally got to the front of the line and was about to board when we were asked if we would mind waiting one cycle to allow a handicapped guest ride. I was extremely exhausted and probably a little crabby, yet I smiled and said, "Sure, go ahead". I cannot for one second deny anyone a ride on The Beast, front row, handicapped or not. The guest smiled at us and the staff thanked us. That made me feel really good that I could be a part of making someone's day a little brighter, especially when they don't have the capability of standing in line all day like I do.

He was referring to the coaster, not the restaurant. Paramount had no plans for a coaster coming to KI this season. CF changed those plans and transplanted X-Flight from Geauga Lake to KI becoming Firehawk.

I think the double drop was for a big splash! Not sure if it had anything to do with the way KCKC was operated. I'm sure someone will correct me if I am wrong, which is not entirely impossible.

Yeah but you also got too think about it this way! Yes kids might not know about most HB, But Mom and Dad grew up on these HB Characters. So it is a chance for Mom and Dad to reintroduce them to there kids. I think it would be great for HB to make a comeback. And folks like to pick on Screamscape, but from my view they seem to get a lot correct. (And they get it correct well before the actual announcements are made.) So as the story goes.... Those that do know, Do Talk to Screamscape. Apparently, Dollywood is the only park who feels this way. Just ask CF how they felt about their plans for Maverick winding up on Sctreamscape before they were ready to make the announce ment. And, my POV is Screamscape generally gets it wrong. They thought when CP was planning on Wicked Twister, that the footers were for a coaster just like Superman at SFMM, but larger in scale. And, of course they are going to post things as a rumor. This covers their butts when they are completely wrong, like bringing back the old HB characters. If I e-mail them with fake credentials, I can guarantee that I could send them a rumor and bam, it appears on screamscape.

I would think a trip to the chiropractor is in order. Color me jealous.

I'm gonna guess this rumor is false. Why would CF want to bring back characters that most kids don't even remember when it seems to me that the most logical thing to do would be to introduce the Nick charaters to the rest of their parks? I know, Screamscape is usually full of it.

^From what I understand and have read, Firehawk shouldn't be down for very long. When it was X Flight at GL, even their maintenance staff had it up and running pretty quickly after any breakdown I witnessed.

I never called anyone an idiot. That was just your poor attempt at starting a childish online arguement. In reference to my quote: when someone comes over a message board and claims they know what the stipulations of a billion dollar deal only because they are a former ride operator, it sounds as if someone is trying to gain attention by claiming they happen to know more than most. Deals like the purchase between CF and Paramount fall through all the time, and normally, at the last minute due to the lenders getting cold feet. Claiming that CF confirmed the purchase at the end of the 1st quarter 2006 to the point where they directed Paramount on how to operate a park they did not own yet is rather foolish. Rumors of CF purchasing Paramount started becoming a reality the 3rd week of May in 2006, practically a month after PKI opened. Loan terms of the purchase finally were officially disclosed less than a week before the actual purchase. It would really undermine the integrity of a company if a ride operator would happen to know that the potential buyer of a park was already making decisions and running the park before the proper paperwork was actually signed. Now if you want to twist my comment by trying to discount what we discuss here, so be it. There are many visitors that claim to have inside information about what ride is going up next year, where it is going, etc. A majority of us here will not make those claims. But if you are going to make comments that you have inside information, be prepared to back it up with more proof than jsut because you operated the ride for two years. I'm sure the administrators and mods here have had many opportunities to disclose sensitive information about the park, but have wisely not mentioned a word. And in return, they have a great relationship with the park. They also fit the comment: Those who talk don't know; those who know, don't talk. Funny because you seem to have a lot to say. But, what he is saying is a matter of public knowledge. Not once has he said he knew anything before anyone else. And if he did know anything, he certainly has not posted it on any message board trying to brag on "insider info" he might or might not have had. And getting back to topic, yes, I remember KCKC's green, unattractive water. I still miss the old flume. The scenic view was awesome and I loved the thrill of the drop.

Duh! There's always an exception to the rule. For the most part, it always holds true. Besides, we're talking about amusement parks, not the CIA or FBI.

I don't know the distance in miles, but it is three hours for me coming from Huntington, WV.

So this is a forum full of idiots... Now how did you come up with that? According to you, everyone who talks here doesnt know what theire talking about. He never said anything like that. What that phrase means is that people in the know don't talk about what they know. People who don't know what they are talking about ususally have a lot to say.

And, apparently, Cedar Fair, who operates an entire chain of parks knows less than an ops guy who works on Tomb Raider.

I was never confused about your sarcasm. But, your point was CF turned off the water effects due to rusting of TR:TR. At the same time, I'm telling you that Paramount turned off the water effects on AE due to rusting. And you think turning off the water effects is a bad idea and only an idea that came from CF...no? I'm not a connoisseur of top spins, but I sure as hell know when a ride is boring or not. Maverick's theming is static, therefore the only thing that could go downhill would be loss of color of painted canyons due to the sun. There isn't much of any theming.

But, .25 cotton candy is possible. Is there .25 cotton candy at KI? I haven't been this year. I know they had it last year at Geuage Lake. If KI does, where is that particular stand located. Sorry to derail the topic. Back on topic, I am so excited about Fearfest this year! Anyone know when we can expect to see commercials?

So, Deloreon Rider, by your estimates about water effects and covering everything with tents, Paramount should have enclosed Adventure Express since it was Paramount that turned off the misting effect on that coaster. See, it's not such a dumb idea afterall. Maverick's theming is far better than Tomb Raider: The Embarassment Not to mention that TR:TR is a horrible excuse for a top spin, giant or not.

Wasn't The Beast also built in-house? I really can't remember.

I would guess that it was my parents that heard about Kings Island. I was really young when it opened and we started going. I think I found this site linked from another KI site that is no longer in existence. It wasn't PKIUnlimited, although I was a member there too. Can't remember the name.

Are you sure about slow moving lines for Impulse coasters? Wicked Twister at Cedar Point never has more than a fifteen minute wait and I'm always amazed at how quickly the line moves.

^ We generally call those people "coaster credit whores". Although, it seems like FOF was a new ride when they switched the trains from OSTR's to lap bars.

In 1987 when Vortex was new my Mom and I waited about 20-25 min. I guess we got lucky. I think the longest I ever waited was when The Bat opened. The line was backed up all the way past where The Happy Days Diner is now. I believe that there was a"whack-a Bat" game there between shake -rattle and roll and the Happy days diner, but I don't remember what food place was there in 1981. Of course it wasn't the happy days diner then. Does anyone remember what food place was there? And does anyone remember the "Whack-a-bat??? When The Bat didn't work out they had the game whack-a-mole. I didn't understand where the bats went, of course I was 8 or 9 what did I know. The Bat died off and so did my whack-a bat. I thought the bats were cute and I loved the design on the trains of The Bat, because I loved bats. I think I was an odd child!!! LOL!!! I still love bats. Back to the subject at hand, I think my family and I waited maybe 3 hours for The Bat. So that was my longest wait, I think. I always wanted a bat as a pet after I saw a kid on David Letterman with one. He was really cute and pretty friendly. (The Bat, not the kid)

I just had to re-post this quote. Thought it was pretty funny. Not true, but funny.

He has also been know to work the lemon chill stand from time to time...