Steph88 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Interesting... Did they announce before filing for trademark of the name? Or did the other park not have a trademark on the name? Hm... Quote
silver2005 Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Google.com is obviously a foreign concept for Ed Hart.Ā Quote
calakapepe Posted October 16, 2015 Posted October 16, 2015 Please make an issue, Adventureland Park.. I would appreciate a different name for this coaster haha Goodness, it's terrible. Ā Ā It sucks that a name change could happen.. they spent so much money getting the logo done, I presume... Quote
BeeastFarmer Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 I am not an expert in trademark law, but KK's Facebook page photos has Storm Chaser with the Ā. Ā Adventureland does not have this Ā and calls their giant swing The Storm Chaser. Ā I'd assume the Ā is for the name of the roller coaster, but maybe it is for the logo?Ā Will be interesting to see how this plays out, or if it really is an issue. 1 Quote
The Interpreter Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 TM means only that the user CLAIMS a trademark. R in a circle is trademark registered. During the registration process, other users can protest and often stop the registration. Cribbing a name from another user, unless done with permission, is very unwise, to be kind. As for permissive use...see Diamondback. And Diamond Back. 6 Quote
Oldiesmann Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 It does not appear that Adventureland registered a trademark on the name "Storm Chaser" (there are several trademarks for that name, but none relate to amusement park rides or merchandise like we've seen with Banshee and other things). I would think that a good trademark lawyer would know to search and make sure nobody else was using the term in a similar manner prior to filing the application (given that doing so would ultimately save the business a lot of time and money in the long run), so it's likely Hart filed the mark himself (or one of his buddies did). Ā Now, whether the USPTO will approve the registration if Adventureland doesn't protest it is anyone's guess. This is after all the same agency that has allowed people to patent ridiculously broad ideas, at which point the patent holder tries to extort money out of innocent companies by claiming the company somehow infringes on the patent (look up "patent troll" if you're not familiar with this concept). Hopefully the folks at the USPTO will have enough sense to search and see if anyone else is using the mark before approving it. Otherwise, things could get ugly. 3 Quote
The Interpreter Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 A registration is simply that...a registration. It puts others on notice. A Google search would have been prudent. Provided Mr. Hart wants to prevent, not cause, problems. 4 Quote
Oldiesmann Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Yes, but registration is typically done to prevent others from using the same name in the same or similar context. CF wouldn't like it if someone else built a ride and called it Banshee. What happens if the registration goes through and Hart finds Adventureland with a ride called Storm Chaser? You have to defend your trademark or you could lose it. 2 Quote
The Interpreter Posted October 17, 2015 Posted October 17, 2015 Holiday World put in a ride called Banshee.... And pre-existing users? See the sad stories of Burger King, Waffle House...just to name two. 3 Quote
BeeastFarmer Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 Like I said I am no expert, just looking at the info presented.Ā Adventureland has a swing ride named The Storm Chaser.Ā Kentucky Kingdom is opening a roller coaster named Storm Chaser.Ā KK has the Ā; AL does not.Ā Not being in the same geographic area and not being the same type of ride; I am doubtful there will be any problem.Ā But if there is, there are folks that can handle it.Ā I just want to ride the coaster! 3 Quote
The Interpreter Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 Yes, there are "folks who can handle it." Folks who will cost money and cause distraction from the task of running the park. Almost like having to pay out more for litigation settlements because the two Eds in the company just HAD to bluster at those who filed injury suits that they were committing fraud. Immediately after saying the park cannot comment on pending litigation Then quietly had to pay far more to settle--hush money? A nickel here, a nickel there. A day here, a week there, months over there. All diversions and distractions from running the park--all divert from investing in Kentucky Kingdom. By the way, in some cases, the remedy for trademark infringement can be the removal of offending goods from the marketplace. Rarely done, it can be... 6 Quote
Tr0y Posted October 18, 2015 Posted October 18, 2015 Google.com is obviously a foreign concept for Ed Hart. BING! 6 Quote
The Interpreter Posted October 19, 2015 Posted October 19, 2015 Near total silence from the park since closing. Has to be a conscious strategy. And a wise one, at least until after the election. 7 Quote
TheBEASTunchained Posted October 22, 2015 Posted October 22, 2015 Kentucky Kingdom on Facebook: Ā "Prepped and primed.... #TrackingStormChaser #KentuckyKingdom" Ā Ā Photo : Kentucky Kingdom via Facebook 12 Quote
The Interpreter Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 Kentucky Kingdom Begins Laying Track: http://www.wdrb.com/story/30328285/kentucky-kingdom-begins-laying-track-for-new-storm-chaser-coaster "....stunts...." Stunts?! 3 Quote
Aaron88stang Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 KI has a Stunt Coaster on it's Back Lot as well...or as one young guest I overheard last year called it the "Parking Coaster."Ā 8 Quote
rhyano Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 Storm Chaser looks great so far, that airtime hill looks to be like all RMC airtime hills and send you right out of your seatĀ 3 Quote
The Interpreter Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 Didn't EXACTLY that happen in Texas? Terp, who likes to ask questions. 5 Quote
CoasterDirected Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 Is Storm Chaser technically RMC's first fully steel coaster? Or will they be using wooden supports as well as TT's steel structure? Quote
Vortex lover Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 It's steel Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Quote
The Interpreter Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 Really? Terp, who learns the darnest things here. Quote
Vortex lover Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 From what I saw at the construction site, it's all steel. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Quote
The Interpreter Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 rcdb.com would agree. Then again, I consider them as reliable as Ed Hart's PR people are required to be! Quote
BeeastFarmer Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 The pictures I have seen show that the ride has steel track, steel ledgers and metal bents.Ā Mr. Mulcahy ( I think) had stated that it would have wood ledgers, but RMC corrected that via the Facebook discussion that and the pictures back this up.Ā Therefore, I, in my limited knowledgebase, classify this as a steel coaster.Ā Or a plastic coaster if I follow Jeff Gramke's line of thinking. 3 Quote
The Interpreter Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 And thus my second paragraph above. The same lad said that the Mile High Falls shield that shattered was glass! 2 Quote
BeeastFarmer Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 The same lad who is "a true professional?" Quote
The Interpreter Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 And does exactly as he is told. As would you or I, were we to, horrors!, work for Mr. Ed Hart. I'd last about seven seconds. Maybe. 3 Quote
BeeastFarmer Posted October 23, 2015 Posted October 23, 2015 On this we agree, The Interpreter:Ā The park needs some solid improvement in marketing and public relations. 2 Quote
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