presto123 Posted August 12, 2016 Posted August 12, 2016 I read a story that said the kid's brother saw him die. So sad. He supposedly told somebody that worked at the park " thanks to your attraction, I just saw my brother die" or something like that. Found the link: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/kansas-waterslide-death-decapitation-schlitterbahn-park-verruckt-caleb-schwab-a7184601.html Quote
King Ding Dong Posted August 14, 2016 Posted August 14, 2016 The KC Star has a great piece on the construction and approval process. Mr. BAlvey thinks it makes his "dumbest posters" look good. As of this post he has not disputed any of the facts presented in the story. http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article95562432.html 4 Quote
The Interpreter Posted August 18, 2016 Posted August 18, 2016 Two Women In Same Raft As Ten Year Old Boy, Father Speak Out: http://abcnews.go.com/US/women-raft-10-year-boy-killed-kansas-waterslide/story?id=41480735&google_editors_picks=true 2 Quote
The Interpreter Posted August 20, 2016 Posted August 20, 2016 Legal Implications And Consequences: http://www.kansascity.com/news/article96777077.html Article is HIGHLY recommended. 4 Quote
rlentless Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Article concerning industry safety standards written after recent accidents. There are 6 states that do not require any inspections but left up to the insurance companies to set the criteria according to the article. https://www.yahoo.com/news/thrill-ride-accidents-spark-demands-regulation-145059427.html 2 Quote
RailRider Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Legal Implications And Consequences: http://www.kansascity.com/news/article96777077.html Article is HIGHLY recommended. Great article and the one take away was this is why a park like Action Park existed in New Jersey and why Verruckt was built at the Kansas Schlitterbahn. I am typically one who advocates for less government involvement but the fact Kansas only audits to confirm ride inspections and that they leave actual inspections up to the parks is concerning. Seems like a conflict of interest when the ride inspector is hired and paid by the park. Good for businesses but provides little protection for the consumer and especially tax payers of the state. 7 Quote
Oldschool75 Posted August 23, 2016 Posted August 23, 2016 Either way, this ride will close. If the park chooses to close it. If a settlement agreement forces them to close it, or the public close it by not riding it anymore. Sent from my iOS 10 device Quote
RollerNut Posted August 24, 2016 Posted August 24, 2016 Article concerning industry safety standards written after recent accidents. There are 6 states that do not require any inspections but left up to the insurance companies to set the criteria according to the article. https://www.yahoo.com/news/thrill-ride-accidents-spark-demands-regulation-145059427.html "In 2010, there were an estimated 5,419,000 crashes (30,296 fatal crashes), killing 32,999 and injuring 2,239,000.[2]"Source: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year As compared to 4,400 injuries of probably nearly 60 million visitors to amusement parks nationwide. Source: "Dr. Gary Smith, director of the Center for Injury Research and Policy at Nationwide Children's Hospital in Columbus, Ohio, analyzed the data from between 1990 and 2010 and estimated that an average of more than 4,400 children per year are injured on rides at amusement parks and water parks." From the article you posted. My point being accidents will happen no matter how much regulation there is, furthermore what percentage is rider error. Quote
Tanna Posted August 30, 2016 Posted August 30, 2016 But each ride has such a huge amount of variables involved in each accident, to pin down the exact cause of each of the numbered accidents would be an astronomical feat, unless all the accidents happened in the same park, the same ride, the same operator, and Egad- the same rider. Accidents do happen, but it happens more often when there is less oversight and regulation. I don't like regulation in my life, but when a park inspects it's own rides, there's a lot more "Eh, it'll do." Than I'd like. 2 Quote
King Ding Dong Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 Verruckt will be dismantled. The tower will remain, presumably for future development. http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article116542643.html 5 Quote
TombRaiderFTW Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 Good. I think that's the most responsible thing that Schlitterbahn could do in this situation. Hopefully, the family and witnesses have found closure. 4 Quote
Rivertown Rider Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 I agree. That's the most responsible thing they could have done. 3 Quote
rhyano Posted November 23, 2016 Posted November 23, 2016 agreed, good for Schlitterbahn, the slide was a huge mistake from the start, considering rafts were flying off the thing when it first started testing 5 Quote
BoddaH1994 Posted January 12, 2017 Posted January 12, 2017 Settlement has been reached, no details disclosed yet: http://www.aol.com/article/news/2017/01/11/family-of-boy-killed-on-water-slide-reaches-settlement-with-park/21653192/ 3 Quote
malem Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 Settlement total nearly $20M. http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article148513129.html 2 Quote
Shaggy Posted May 4, 2017 Posted May 4, 2017 No amount will ever replace their son. I feel awful for this family. I cannot imagine their grief. 14 Quote
BloodBlade21 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Criminal charges have been filed against Schlitterbahn & their Director of Park Operations. The former operations director for Schlitterbahn Waterpark in Kansas City, Kansas, and the water park itself have been charged with manslaughter in the 2016 death of a 10-year-old boy on a water slide.... In addition.... both were indicted on multiple counts of aggravated battery and aggravated endangering a child (and)... interference with law enforcement. http://6abc.com/news/water-park-ex-employee-charged-in-10-year-olds-2016-death-on-ride/3251969/ The fact that criminal charges are being brought is stunning. Many amusement park accidents only result in civil settlements & fines from the governmental agency overseeing amusement parks in their state. There must be some seriously darning evidence to lead to these charges being filed. 1 Quote
silver2005 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 ^Well, unlike most parks, Schlitterbahn often makes their slides in-house. No third party designers like Pro-Slide, so they have no one to scapegoat. 1 Quote
KIghostguy Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Full indictment here: https://localtvwdaf.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/2018-03-21_indictment__miles_swkc__filed_redacted.pdf 1 Quote
TombRaiderFTW Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Horrifying. Absolutely horrifying. I am nauseous. I don't even know what else to say in the wake of that. 1 Quote
fryoj Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Wow. Just wow. I read that whole thing and the lengths that guy went is just mind boggling. I mean, I get the thought process behind designing their own ride. It's stupid, but I get how it happened. But repeatedly ignoring the flaws and problems, then intentionally suppressing injury data is just stupid. He deserves to have the book thrown at him. 1 Quote
jcgoble3 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Wow is right. It really drives home just how dangerous Verruckt was when they assert that it qualifies as a deadly weapon in the list of charges. 4 Quote
Magenta Lizard Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 I knew the entire situation surrounding that ride was bad. I had no idea it was that bad. 1 Quote
coasterfanatic83 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Wow... it might be best just to shut the park down at this point. So sad. 1 Quote
Imperial79 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 That is really shocking, omgosh. I thought the indictment would show some problems with the ride, but it had tons of problems!!! I can see now why criminal charges were filed! Terrible! 1 Quote
CoastersRZ Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 If this kind of thing was happening on this ride, just think of other incidents that might have happened on other rides at that park that have been suppressed... 4 Quote
silver2005 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 There's also a whole chain of these parks (4 more in fact). This might have quite the ripple effect. https://www.schlitterbahn.com/ 3 Quote
fryoj Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 3 hours ago, coasterfanatic2012 said: Wow... it might be best just to shut the park down at this point. So sad. 2 hours ago, silver2005 said: There's also a whole chain of these parks (4 more in fact). This might have quite the ripple effect. https://www.schlitterbahn.com/ Yeah, this company is done. This opens lawsuits from anyone who has as much as stubbed their toe at any of the parks, so financially they won't be able to continue. Also, since the company is named in a criminal complaint, I don't know if they can even continue if there is a conviction. This will either lead to the company folding or sold off. If someone buys them, or they somehow restructure as a new company, any rides they built themselves would probably have to be removed. I'd say it'll come down to a park by park basis as to what happens. 3 Quote
jcgoble3 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Honest question: exactly how do criminal charges against a business entity work? I assume you would have the standard legal process, the same as for an individual defendant. But then what happens if the company pleads or is found guilty? How does sentencing work? You can't exactly throw a company in prison like you can with a person. Do they just get massive fines instead? Can the judge force the owners to shut the company down or sell it to an outsider? 1 Quote
fryoj Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 28 minutes ago, jcgoble3 said: Honest question: exactly how do criminal charges against a business entity work? I assume you would have the standard legal process, the same as for an individual defendant. But then what happens if the company pleads or is found guilty? How does sentencing work? You can't exactly throw a company in prison like you can with a person. Do they just get massive fines instead? Can the judge force the owners to shut the company down or sell it to an outsider? A quick google search says fines and probation, with the court overseeing the business. 2 Quote
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