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The actual quote was by sections, not piece by piece. If you're going to quote someone, let's try and get it right.

Not sure why this topic is just for the ride ops. Once heard someone in the park ask the following, "why are the midgets not back this year?" With the answer being, "They grew up."

I really can't believe they replaced The Cemetery with CornStalkers. I've never been much of a fan of the Cemetery, even though I thought it had good potential. However, it has always been hard for me to take CornStalkers seriously. It's just a ridiculous concept in my opinion. They pretty much expanded the concept of Cemetary to encompass all of International Street as a scare zone. I've always liked the living statues. If you ever get the chance to visit Cedar Point for Halloweekends, CornStalkers there is a must do. Very well executed, and more confined feeling than KI's due to the fact that their's is located in the trough of Thunder Canyon. Sam doesn't break character, or at least he doesn't anymore. But he will still say hello. Oh... and yeah, size 12.

I'm not sure this is an accurate statement.

I couldn't help myself when I read this. When you used insurance with all upper case letters, I felt like it was a scrambled word game, as a mystery on why it would be not running for a while. I came up with these: SAUCER INN - Flight Deck is being rethemed to a hotel for aliens? CANE RUINS - new disaster theme, referring to a hurricane, like from the coaster SOB's second trains came from...obviously in ruins. I CARE NUNS - new theme where the jets are changed to flying nuns that are rescuing you

Can I just say one thing. My information is right from twitter it's self. It was an conversation from me to Don. Me: are you going to show video of the Lift and drop falling to the ground? Don: Depends on when it might be. Me: A lot of people on Kings Island Central are saying that will stay in the skyline until after haunt is over. (Wolf Pack Haunt) Don: It could be down before the end of Haunt. Could that mean that there is a possibility that the skyline will change even before the 27th or October when Haunt officially ends? Or would it be past the 28th of October. We could never know until it happens. Note: That I am NOT taking this as a fact. I'm saying there is a possibility.

The lumber that traveled to Kings Island for Son of Beast, or now, being taken away!

I miss Jr for Birdy,even if he is an idiot! Thank God he got help with his drinking;maybe now he will keep his pie hole shut more often!

When I watched the SoB demolition video I was thinking "Well, is anything going to happen, or....wait whoooooooo!"

This came from Six Flags Magic Mountain on the Viking Ship "Alright guys it's time to have fun and scream it's not a library."

I want to know why so many people want a coaster in Son of Beast's plot for next year. Personally, I would be a lot happier with the park using the land to expand and possibly connect to X-Base. I'll take new rides, shops, eaterys, restrooms and landscapes over one new coaster any day,

The guy served 90 days in jail and i do believe a 2 year ban from the park.

I'm not saying that they don't have plans for the land where SOB is/was, but I don't really think they are taking it down "quickly" nor do I think they are taking their sweet old time on the demolition. Tearing this coaster down is going to take as long as it takes. No more, no less. If they needed the land to start construction this fall or winter, they would have likely started demo sooner. I don't think the speed at which the coaster is coming down has much to do with the current plans for the land, or lack thereof.

I need some ice...

Paul stated it best. Some enthusiasts can put a "black eye" on the perception of enthusiasts. A few bad apples can spoil it for the bunch. There are some enthusiasts who think they are entitled things when they go to the parks. This is a select minority, but they tend to stand out. Then there are those of us who have spent 11 seasons working in the industry and still are enthralled by it. I don`t care how many times I have ridden a certain coaster, I just enjoy going to the parks for the sake of enjoying the parks.

Meating new friends. Nice! Terp, who is glad you didn't butcher that line.

I hope I'm not the only one who was thinking, "Is this just a thirty second video of the structure sitting, OH WOW, nevermind"

I heard that some people want to know what the mazes are like since they won't make it this year, but in all the other topics people get mad at the littlest hints at spoilers. SO HERE! Problem solved. lol.

So we arrived there at 5:30 p.m and i took a couple of pics of Invertigo testing(and it was doing this annoying siren each time it would test) at 6:00 p.m they opened the doors and we got in. the fog was imense on international street. so i went into Planet Snoopy and headed to Diamondback. it was a 5 min. wait . So i went into the very back and i got on. 10/10 i love how you go straight over that lift hill and your like what the heck ahhhh!!!! I got off and i bought a 6x9 on ride photo. i looked like i was constipated or something. So i then headed to The Beast. it was a 5 min wait again! so i got on. it was awesome esspiceally with the fog. 9.8/10. so i headed to Vortex(WindSeeker was obviously down) and it was a walk on! i got on 5-1 and rode it. 8.0/10 it was awesome i didnt get one headbang on the ride . So i then headed to Firehawk. it was a 10 minute wait! i got on row 5 and the station nearest to the exit. i rode with 1st timers! it was a okay ride 9.1/10 except near the loop it felt like my brains were getting extremely pressurized . So i then got on racer it was a 2 train wait. it was an awesome ride 8.5/10. i then went on viking fury. a one cycle wait. it was a good ride 7.0/10. i then went to Adventure Express. it was a good ride not to rough not to smooth 7.8/10. i then got on Delirium it was a 30 min wait . it was awesome! i love those parts when you go upside up and feel like what the heck?9.0/10 i deducted it because of the wait. i then went to flight deck. it was an awesome ride 9.6/10. i tried to take pics of sob but it was way too dark . so i then went to effiel tower but it was closed and then i tried to go onto viking fury but it was closed too so i went to skyline and ate at the festhaus. i then left at 9:35 p.m. ill post my pics later overall: Pros: nice barely any waits cons: no scare actors Diamondback:1 Beast:1 Vortex:1 Firehawk:1 Racer(red):1 AE:1 viking fury:1 flight deck:1 Delirium:1 9.5/10 total good day, Joshua

Wow, its very sad to see this old SOB, torn apart

Cedar Fair is self insured. NEXT!

One operator told me at Busch Gardens, Tampa, that sometimes Sheikra gets stuck at the top. He told me this as soon as I was in my seat...... Jerk

Whoops. When I first saw this thread, I thought it was about some bad basketball team.

^2 hours is being generous.

With all due respect, construction practices have changed drastically in the last 39 years. Not to mention that Son of Beast was most instructive as to what can happen when a park company acts as general contractor on such a massive, specialized project. As for Screamscape, please define "they.". I know Lance Hart. He is not a they. Assuming, arguendo, that construction is even contemplated. There is a lot of assumption around here. There can be no assurance that it is warranted.

"You so. Have the. Tone. Raider. Ride. Halloween. Huant" New to Halloween Huant in 2012 - Tone Raider: The Ride

I miss a lot of the ones that have already been mentioned, but I'm lucky enough to know most of them in real life and keep in touch in person and through Facebook. There was one that was on here when I first joined that I enjoyed his posts and wish he would return, and that's WooferBearATL. The family and I are going to his and violakat's wedding this Sunday.

A new construction video and pictures have been posted on the Gatekeeper page on PointBuzz! http://pointbuzz.com/c/Gatekeeper.aspx

What's stopping people from doing that at any point during KI's operating season?

Compare and contrast Kentucky Kingdom...

No offense, but how does experience building a monorail allow you to predict that the demolition will take until November or December? Why would you install footings for a ride you're demolishing?

Building a park of any decent "regional attraction" size, I think, is just not feasible. Just the cost of obtaining and preparing dozens (or hundreds) of acres of land; creating miles of plumbing, kitchens, bathrooms, infrastructure, pathways, employees... You've crossed millions of dollars before you've purchased a ride. And one might argue that you won't find a regional-draw amusement park that doesn't have at least one larger roller coaster, which can run $8 - $25 million dollars alone. Who's marching around these days with the hundreds of millions of dollars that it would likely take to bring a full-sized, regional amusement park to life, even in phases? And if they could, where would they build it? Even Six Flags and Cedar Fair, whose main business is park operation, haven't built a park in decades. Acquisition was the name of the game, and that is over. There's nothing left to acquire, for the most part. The last attempt to build a park from scratch, as far as I can recall, was Hard Rock Park... Another part of the equation, I think, is the expected scale of these projects. If Kings Island of 1972 opened in 2012... Suffice it to say, these are different expectations for a park in 2012 than there were 40 years earlier, for better or worse. Kings Island 1972 would cost millions and millions of 2012 dollars, but would even then would not meet the "requirements" that many have come to have. That being said, I think that there is room for small, local parks like the one proposed here. It would be nice if Geauga Lake could be the family picnic grove with a few coasters, free from the expectation that it should have record-breaking rides. The problem is, who's willing to operate it? But I don't know. That's all just my opinion.

^Wow. Come to Haunt and beat up people who try to scare you. Sad. Anyway, I think Ill go through Slaughterhouse JUST to meat Sam. I'm kind of a wimp, but I'll man up. The fact that you stay in character EVEN on the forums kind of amazes me. (all caps makes things IMPORTANT)

Here are some ways I can rank the Cedar Fair parks, these are using only the parks with red flags on the cedarfair.com map (no water parks) First method is by approximate distance, using the Google maps recommended driving directions from Columbus 1 - Kings Island 135 km 2 - Cedar Point 185 km 3 - Canadas Wonderland 518 km 4 - Michigans Adventure 595 km 5 - Carowinds 704km 6 - Dorney Park 714 km 7 - Kings Dominion 787 km 8 - Worlds of Fun 1063 km 9 - Valleyfair 1255 km 10 - Knott's Berry Farm 3608 km 11- California's great america 3947 km 12 - Gilroy Gardens Family Theme Park 4002 km Next method is to take each letter in the name of the park, assign a numerical value based on position in the alphabet (a=1, b=2....z=26). Starting from lowest total as first place 1 - Cedar Point - 105 2 - Carowinds - 106 3 - Valleyfair - 111 4 - Kings Island - 120 5 - Dorney Park - 127 6t - Kings Dominion - 153 6t - Worlds of Fun - 153 8 - Canada's Wonderland - 154 9 - Michigan' s Adventure - 193 10 - Knott's Berry Farm - 195 11 - California's Great America - 209 12 - Gilroy Gardens Family Theme Park - 299

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Shaggy. Still on every once in a while, but not nearly as much as I would like him to be!

UncleHenry. Nuff said. :b

I love all of you guys. I learn from everyone here and am grateful for all of it.

I'm in the -2% then.

A self described "frequent flyer" with a platinum pass should know of the policy as it is a handful of years old. If he did not, then shame on him for not doing the leg work and on top of that, he should understand that policies can change as necessary. He obviously has other motives for willing to give up his pass for his own misunderstanding. This incident just gives him a "good excuse" in his eyes for a decision that was already made. I have said it before- those who intentionally look for a problem will find one.

So I was correct when I said it has always been a rule for the haunt.

I belive they have people going out to the parking lot and drinking. They then come back in rowdey and a nuisance to others. Why couldn't that person have just left the park an hour eariler?

With or without SS rumors, I'm curious as to what's going to happen to that area of the park. Seeing SOB go down so quickly, it's only making me wonder more. Look at how quickly the park has changed for the better in such a short time, with pavers and menus and morale and more; It leads me to think they have something unique and spectacular in mind for the future.

My mom still calls it the "new" rollercoaster .

I'd rank the parks I've visited as follows: Cedar Point: They have the best collection of coasters in the chain and the nicest setting. Seeing Gatekeeper and the transformation of the old Disaster Transport area should only make the park better. Canada's Wonderland: The best atmosphere of all the parks. I love their kids area, which is probably better than KI's IMO. They also sell poutine. My only knock on this park is that they only have four coasters worth riding IMO (Vortex, Thunder Run, Behemoth & Leviathan). Their flats collection is great. I like this park more and more every time I visit. Kings Island: The best games and best prizes. KI needs one more high-quality, high-capacity attraction. I'm very curious to see if the issue afflicting Diamondback's trains gets fixed in the offseason, because if it does it moves right back into my top 5. Kings Dominion: The best overall collection of rides IMO. I love that they've kept many of the trees that Kings Island lacks. Carowinds: One of the best one-two B&M punches anywhere with Intimidator & Afterburn. The flyers are awesome. Unfortunately, those are by far the three best rides in the park and it quickly drops off from there. Worlds of Fun: The employees here are the friendliest in the chain IMO. Prowler is awesome. I just wish the park had a little more to do, but I always enjoy my visits here. Dorney Park: They have a decent collection of rides. Talon is really growing on me. It just lacks the atmosphere and the cohesiveness that some of the other parks have. Knotts: I love Silver Bullet. Xcelerator's launch is great. Ghostrider and Montezooma's Revenge are decent but everything else does nothing for me, including the chicken restaurant. I probably won't visit this park again until they get a big coaster. This park may suffer by comparison because of its proximity to Magic Mountain, Disneyland & Universal Studios Hollywood. Michigan's Adventure: It's a cute park, but with only one standout attraction (albeit it a very good one in Shivering Timbers) it's tough to put it higher. Valleyfair: See the Dorney Park analysis but lacks the good collection of rides. Renegade is really good but everything else there is very lackluster. I lack any desire to head back there anytime soon.

I would go to Cedar Point for the sake of saving gas and trip time. It also sounds like you still have a lot more to experience at CP than you do at Kings Island.

Snow-woman and I decided to honor the life of my Grandmother who passed away last week at 96. We went Saturday morning 10am, used funperks 50% fast pass discount, marathoned DB, rode many rides for many hours. We ate, checked out SC, which the kids seem to love. 6pm rolled around and the wave of crowds rolled in. Lines became insanely long and just kept getting worse as the night went on. Our magical wristbands seemed to upset others while making us happy. The full moon gave us warm thoughts of Grandmother. 12:30 we were in line for the front seat of Beast and the ride op said, "The park is closing in 30 minutes". We rode a magical night ride through the woods, staggered to our car, and realized we had just spent 15 hours by-passing the largest crowds we'd ever seen at KI. Very memorable day we'll never forget. For some reason, yesterday we were exhausted.

Violakat03 and her fiance' both work at Dollywood now. gigacoaster2k works at Cedar Point Beast 1979 - Jackson? Where has he been? UncleHenry - Lives and works in North Hollywood, CA Az Kinda Guy(post from time to time) - Stay at home dad for two adorable twins. I see him every once in a while. With a forum that's been around as long as this one, people come and go. Life moves on for a lot of people.

I personally dont like mazes much, I'm more of a haunted trail person. Please see "Trail of Terror", or "CornStalkers" for more information about the subject.

Shout out to my new fam at SH!! Wooo!