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Discussing Land and Space in and around Vortex
WoodVengeance replied to Klabergian Empire's topic in Kings Island
This goes for parks in the same chain as well. Just because Cedar Point was willing to bite the bullet on having Zamperla redo Top Thrill Dragster doesn't mean Kings Island would invest in something nearly that risky. Kings Island (under Cedar Fair) has mainly played it safe when it comes to new coaster additions with three B&Ms, a GCI, and a Vekoma Family Boomerang, all models that have been proven to be safe and reliable. -
Weird. So someone needs to update the webpage then.
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It must've just went down, because it was open when I was there yesterday.
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Snoopy's Soap Box Racers & Camp Snoopy Reviews
WoodVengeance replied to KIghostguy's topic in Kings Island
Got my first ride on it today and it was in the front row. It's butter smooth and fun for a family coaster. -
I saw on reddit that Cedar Point built a human claw machine near power tower. I imagine we'll see these pop up at other parks in the chain as well.
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Soak City Upgrades & Possible Expansion 2025
WoodVengeance replied to WoodVengeance's topic in Kings Island
Maybe, or it could be something else as well. This was my thought when Canada's Wonderland put in Snoopy's Racing Railway that it was going to get cloned at the other major CF parks, but we got Snoopy's Soap Box Racers instead. -
Discussing Land and Space in and around Vortex
WoodVengeance replied to Klabergian Empire's topic in Kings Island
Also, I imagine Kings Island would want to keep the drones to the right of the Eiffel Tower if you're watching from International Street. Putting them by Action Theater would make them look too close to the fireworks. -
I don't think this is going to be for a flat ride. Usually we wouldn't see construction for a new ride this early into the prior season unless it was for a major coaster. (Which given the plot, it's not) Given the size, I don't think it's going to be for anything significant. Think of something like a new gift shop, VIP area or a food/drink stand.
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Could it be another Coke Refill station like what's being put in Action Zone?
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Discussing Land and Space in and around Vortex
WoodVengeance replied to Klabergian Empire's topic in Kings Island
Couldn't they move the drone plot farther back? Of course, they would likely need to remove some trees to make room, but I think it should be fine as long as it doesn't get too close to The Beast or Racer turnaround. -
Carowinds or Kings Dominion?
WoodVengeance replied to LuvingKI's topic in Other Amusement Parks & Industry News
I would wait to do a Kings Dominion trip until you can find more time to fit in Busch Gardens Williamsburg as well. Both KD and BGW are highly acclaimed parks, and they're only an hour or so away from each other. I'm not going to suggest that one of these parks is better than the other, but personally, I think it would be a missed opportunity to only do one of those parks and not the other while you're in the Richmond, VA area. For two days, I think Carowinds would be the better option given it's easy to knock out that park within a day and there are no other amusement parks near the immediate area of Charlotte, NC. -
WCPO: Kings Island hints at major new roller coaster with survey
WoodVengeance replied to BoddaH1994's topic in Kings Island
Maybe. The problem is Xcelerator's launch track is much shorter than Dragster's, and I'm not sure if there's enough room to put in an LSM launch that could get over that top hat. If they needed to, they could try to put some LSM's on the incline up the top hat. If they put in a spike like TT2, they will probably need to either remove or relocate Supreme Scream since that's located right behind Xcelerator's station. Just like with Dragster, Xcelerator has been a constant maintenance nightmare for Knotts, and they're probably going to need to do something about it at some point in the near future. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Knotts currently has their eyes glued to TT2 to see how reliable it is. -
WCPO: Kings Island hints at major new roller coaster with survey
WoodVengeance replied to BoddaH1994's topic in Kings Island
I would like that, too. Not sure if Kings Island would go with a swing launch coaster though considering Cedar Point just added Top Thrill 2. -
Maybe one of those four coaster models, probably not the exact layouts they showed. I highly doubt we'll ever see that tower concept come to Kings Island or Cedar Point given how bad the capacity would be. It's also possible it could be something else entirely like how Canada's Wonderland did with their survey from last year.
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From what I've heard, whenever a Cedar Fair park decides to build a new coaster, they usually go out to multiple manufacturers to hear their pitches for what they've been working on, and then the park will contract the manufacturer that works best for them. If Kings Island is planning a coaster for 2026, I imagine right now this would be the phase they're currently at. It's also worth noting that if this theoretical coaster were to be planned for The Vortex plot, that would have given the park an additional 4-5 years to think about what to put there from when that ride was removed. I want to make it clear that a survey like this does not confirm a coaster for 2026. We'll need to see more evidence pop up within the next year or so in order to make that assumption.
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That's what I was thinking too. This might sound like weird reasoning, but if this proposed giga dive was 300ft on the mark, I think it would fit Carowinds better as it wouldn't really interfere with Fury 325 being the tallest coaster in the park, whereas it would take that title from Orion if it were to go to Kings Island. I could also see Cedar Point getting that tilt coaster since they were the only park that had it in their survey.
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At the very least, I think it's possible one of these concepts may be used to influence our next coaster. One of the concepts that Canada's Wonderland had in their survey last year was a launched wing coaster that went through wonder mountain. Although now it looks as if it won't be a launched wing coaster, it still seems their 2025 project will be some sort of launch coaster that interacts with the mountain. The same goes for Carowinds having water attractions in their survey from last year, as the blueprints for their 2025 project show a new water ride and splash pads going to Camp Snoopy. The overall concept is still similar, albeit in a slightly different form. I think it's possible that whatever comes out of this survey, it could go down a similar path. A coaster that's not exactly a 1:1 comparison, but still uses one of those concepts as a basis to build upon.
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It won't be 2025. We would've seen some sort of land clearing at the park by now if that were the case. My guess is that we'll see a new coaster in 2026, but we'll have to wait and see.
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My thoughts on these proposals: The Tower Spinner: Looks very... unique? Although I am extremely hyped seeing a Mack Xtreme Spinner on here, I don't think a shuttle coaster is the right move the park should make in regards to capacity. I think if the park was looking to get an Xtreme spinner, it would probably be better if they just went with one with a normal layout and 3 train operations. Also, I really don't think this layout would fit The Vortex plot given how long and narrow it is, so it would be interesting to see where in the park this would go. The family launch coaster: Considering Kings Island just added Snoopy's Soap Box Racers and already has Backlot as a family launch coaster, I don't think this would be a good fit for the park. Interestingly, some people have said that the example the park used for this coaster type was an Intamin coaster and not a Zamperla, so maybe this could be a hint that Cedar Fair is willing to work with Intamin again? Maybe, maybe not. The Indoor/Outdoor coaster: This coaster type just screams Crypt building to me. I had the thought in my head about a coaster that uses the crypt building as a station area and a small indoor section, then traverse through the plot of land that's behind the building. I wouldn't mind seeing a coaster like this come to fruition at some point in the future, but I think Kings Island's next coaster should be on the more thrilling side. The Giga Dive: I'm still in the camp that Kings Island shouldn't go with B&M for their next coaster unless it was something unique to the area like a Surf Coaster. Regardless, I imagine this will be the most popular pick among the general public and I do admit that a dive coaster with a 300ft+ tall drop seems quite exciting to me. Although if Kings Island does go this route and makes it the tallest coaster in the park, it would make me question Orion's role in the park considering the main draw for that ride (at least for the general public) is that it is the tallest and fastest coaster in the park. Overall, if I had to pick any of these from how they're currently presented, I would go with the Giga Dive. However, if the park fleshed out the layout of that Xtreme Spinner more, I would be more enticed to vote for that instead.
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I haven't received the survey yet, so I didn't see that memo about the park not wanting it to be shared, though it makes sense. That's just the risk of surveys like this is that someone is bound to talk about it, as evidence from this and all the other coaster surveys Cedar Fair has pushed out since last year.
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Seen this posted on reddit. Apparently Kings Island sent out a survey to vote for a potential new coaster out of four candidates. This includes a Mack Xtreme Spinner shuttle coaster with a 200ft tower, a 4500ft long family coaster (possibly Zamperla from the concept art), a dark ride coaster with indoor/outdoor sections, and (yes, I'm being serious) a B&M giga dive coaster. It's important to note that although this was a survey published by Kings Island itself, any of these plans could change from the final product.
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Discussing Land and Space in and around Vortex
WoodVengeance replied to Klabergian Empire's topic in Kings Island
Given that RMC has started to build ground-up Ibox coasters and doesn't even list Topper Track on their site anymore, I highly doubt we're going to see any more Topper Track RMCs built anytime soon. If Kings Island decides to build an RMC (and that's a big if), it will most likely end up being a ground-up Ibox similar to Zadra or Arieforce One. I've heard that Arieforce has a structure that's entirely made of steel, so maybe that would help alleviate any potential structural issues that could be an issue like it's been with Steel Vengeance. Again, I would still bet on something like a B&M or Vekoma being our next coaster, but it would be interesting to see Cedar Fair work with RMC again despite the issues they've had with them. (If what I've heard about a specific Cedar Fair 2025 project ends up being true, then maybe this idea won't be as far-fetched as we think) -
I saw this photo taken from the Kings Island Season Passholders facebook page. It seems the Wolf Pack sign got removed.