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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
And let's not forget if they do allow the souvenir bottles, in all likelihood we will see a return (hopefully only temporarily) to the days of the employee filling said cups. Many recommendations elsewhere for food establishments are that customers do not fill their own drinks to remain contact free, so no FreeStyle machines for awhile either probably... What this will mean is the employee with gloves on is making the dudes food in front of you in line. Dude hands employee their nasty germ ridden cup that has followed them into the bathroom and left not washing their hands, etc. Employee with gloves on takes said cup, fills it up, returns cup to dude. Maybe they dipped the cup into the ice to save time (I have seen that happen too in the past). Employee wearing the same gloves, but now all germ ridden, then asks you for your order and proceeds to make it. I avoided the places that this was common place at. Some of the food places in the past were set up in such a way this was the norm. This scenario happened a lot in the past. I would make complaints to guest services as that is a Board of Health violation. In the unlikely event I happened to be the recipient of that happening to me while in line, I would take the food to guest services with me and tell them what happened and was like "here lunch is on me" and watch their reaction. One of the few times you would actually see action happen to a complaint and they would immediately call someone high up to come speak to me to hear it themselves. I would look first for a supervisor at the food place, but a lot of times there wasn't one, so I had to go to guest services. Eventually they went to the guests fill their own drink cups. Generally sped the line up in the process. With the return of Winterfest, it brought this scenario again refilling hot chocolate cups the first year. I went to guest services. Procedure was changed. -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
You got that right -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
This information was from the SIX conference call with investors about Q1 results today. FUN has theirs May 6th, so I expect it will mimic some of what SIX has said... -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
Congrats on the call back! Keep us posted about how it is working a shift with a mask on in heat! -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
Staffing on a hot summer day, or even a cool day may get tough for some of the more labor intensive rides or other jobs wearing PPE. First aid runs will increase. Increased frequency of employee breaks will occur as well, probably resulting in more staff needed at rides too. People do not realize how much Oxygen content is lost by wearing a mask for extended periods. It can result in 20% reduced lung capacity or more. This guy found out the hard way in an ideal setting - https://6abc.com/n95-mask-car-crash-medical-ask-coronavirus-news/6129475/ -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
They have been trying it out But in all seriousness, sunglasses stay on, so I think a mask with a strap that goes all the way around a head will be secure. But just like some sunglasses fly off, I am sure some loose fitting masks will come off as well. -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
So if one wants to read what is in the Governor's order and interpolate what that could mean for an amusement park, the big item is the requirement for an establishment to operate at under 50% capacity, plus comply with PPE for employees and social distancing measures for guests. Now who knows when and if the Governor will allow amusement parks to open, but if he does and doesn't lower the 50% capacity requirement, then based on numbers above, KI is pretty much in the clear to open at that point and not restrict attendance during the summer. They will certainly be under 50% between people not coming out for their own fear of crowds, Soak City probably wouldn't open, and company outings and daily admissions probably seeing a decline. The big question will be come Haunt time...in all likelihood the covid will be back in full force by that time, so it may be a moot point regarding Haunt and capping it's attendance as they may be forced to be closed regardless. So the two big questions are when does the Governor allow it and can KI adhere to the PPE for employees requirement and keep guests in compliance with social distancing requirements? And of course, even if they get 25,000 at the park, the experience will be different and we should all expect longer "waits" for rides to deal with social distancing. At this point, capping capacity isn't going to be the issue for KI, it will be compliance with the PPE and social distancing requirements. Certainly makes their decision a little easier to justify opening than the projections and analysis a month ago... -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
I smelled that from a mile away -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
But that is what the fee-based charging stations are for, sponsored by holovis -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
That's cool! Would be interesting to see how a park could mandate it. If this company is thinking, they should figure out a way to incorporate it into a parks own app! Otherwise a park will still wanna create their own so they can sell the "all season social distancing plan" -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
Yet KI allows masks for kids under 13, which is ironic because we have been told by many on this forum that this is an age demographic that doesn't get the covid -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
Yesterday, it would have been mandatory for guests per Ohio Governor Order Today it is recommended but not mandatory for guests per Ohio Governor Order What KI and CP decide is yet to be determined as they have not even been considered by the Ohio Governor for possibility to re-open As of right now, masks will still be required for all employees, except for businesses that the Ohio Governor is being told are not allowed per some other standard, but that Order hasn't been issued yet Tomorrow is another day and may bring yet another revision to the Order I really wanted to add "..." after each one LOL -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
Thank you I agree 100%! Most of the time it is that, but sometimes it is also to imply a "read between the lines" statement, or that this information is subject to change based on the ever-changing data analysis happening. -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
Keep in mind, big brother in China also requires them to be tracked of their every move and scan in every place they go and then their personal data is used to sort individuals into color-coded categories – red, yellow or green – corresponding to their health status and level of risk for COVID-19 based on where they have been. I doubt we would ever see that level of tracking here...and alternate seating like that on most of KI rides would still be within the 6 foot separation requirement for social distancing, so KI trains would be even more spread out than the above picture... In some places in China, face masks are mandatory as well...and that is a big difference. The Ohio Governor today just relaxed that stance and said now customers do not need to wear face masks if they choose not to, but he strongly recommends...this change alone will be a key factor for many companies deciding when to open...yesterday companies still decided not to re-open when it was a requirement for customers to wear masks, so this will probably add to the list of companies deciding to delay when opening... Plus from Fantawild's very own website, this isn't social distancing and I am sure Neighbor Nosy Nancy would be quick to turn KI in for something like this... but on the plus side, anyone that feels the picture takers at the front of the park are annoying, that would probably be something eliminated when KI does open... -
Hindsight is always 20/20, so I think that will be the Haunt 2021 attraction
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
True...but as we have found out with others here, it doesn't mean someone won't (post will obviously get removed)...but many people do not read their employer policy or care, especially those that are younger and all they have known is social media...I have seen lot's of posts elsewhere that are clear violation of company policy (and I am not talking drones LOL)... -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
Exactly...and look at all the companies that have been "authorized to open" in other states and said they won't yet... Movie Theaters in Texas and George, dental offices in Kentucky - think about that, a dental office that is familiar with PPE and used it long before this happened are staying closed for the moment. Plus a lot of these places cannot find PPE and that is a requirement for all employees... Before the Ohio announcement yesterday, restaurants in Ohio like Camp Washington Chili said even if they were allowed to open on Friday, they would not do so yet... Where does a KI fit in all of this? Since they are non-essential and haven't been given the go ahead, one could argue that means they cannot even begin to train and prepare for operating and would they even do so with no guarantee of being able to open? We have members of this forum that are employees, so let's see when they get the call back... It normally takes KI 4-6 weeks to prepare to open, would it really be the same time frame considering having to do training in compliance with social distancing or will it take longer? I guess if they cut enough attractions from opening, they could shorten the time-frame... Here is a what-if...what if they make the decision to not open Orion as that is the draw that would overload whatever requirements they have to comply with... One of the cornerstones of "re-open America" is to react and respond to what the latest data tells them, and if the state sees an actual spike, guess what happens... For example, West Virginia's re-open is based on not seeing a 3% or more increase for 3 consecutive days - one of the few states to actually define what will trigger them holding steady or reversing what is open. Nobody wants to be Denver - they re-opened up a little too early in the 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic and got a re-surge during the first wave of the outbreak that was worse than what they experienced initially. Our current elected officials acknowledge that once re-opening starts, we will start to see an uptick again, so it is a balance of not opening up too early and have re-surge be larger than the initial surge. I would think most companies would rather wait two weeks and be able to re-open and stay open than open two-weeks early and being open a month and then getting shut down for another two months or more...and we are seeing evidence companies are thinking that way in states that opened...and the Ohio Governor has said that is what businesses are telling him - people that actually own and run these companies... So the question will be, do our states see a new spike that is worse than the first? And history tells us that we will see Covid-19 again this fall and next spring 2021. History also shows the 2nd of the three phases is usually the worse...so the worse is probably yet to come... -
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disco2000 replied to BoddaH1994's topic in Kings Island Central Newsroom
Ohioan's only -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
Many on here will like this investor's thoughts... https://www.fool.com/investing/2020/04/26/3-reasons-disney-world-will-open-this-summer.aspx Update on Ohio Press Conference: May 1 - any medical appointment or outpatient procedure can start May 4 - manufacturing, distribution, construction, general office can start May 12 - retail can start to reopen Restaurants, gyms, salons, day care, day camps, pools, sporting events, concerts, amusement parks, tattoo places, etc. still no date to open and Governor would not speculate as to a date. Data will be looked at and dates above subject to change if data backtracks. Stay home order and 14 day self-quarantine if you enter Ohio and all social distancing including no gathering over 10 people still in effect. Employees and guests to places open need to wear masks and comply with all social distancing requirements. -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
What about the workers and living quarters for employees at Cedar Point.... -
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disco2000 replied to Hawaiian Coasters 325's topic in Kings Island
Here are guidelines on how their competing neighbor plans to re-open... https://www.wvlt.tv/content/news/569933921.html -
Better not cry Better not pout I'm telling you why ...whoops wrong thread, I thought this was the Winterfest thread
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Although getting transferred from one elevator to the next midway up would be an unique experience as well!
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You will need to hope both elevators break down for that to even be considered, even if I gets stuck between platforms lol....