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I would think the most restrictive guidelines would dictate Carowinds opening - so whichever state has the most restrictions probably controls it. Or they completely block half the park off and evac on Fury before it crosses state line

One could argue that a museum or zoo could open first because it would be a lot easier to control crowds with a reservation system and a defined path for visitors to follow to see the exhibits and attractions. An amusement park like KI would be a little harder to implement - most will want to go to Orion, and developing a defined path of rides to ride in a particular order would be difficult to manage. What if you don't want to ride some of the rides on the defined path LOL. The Cincinnati Zoo specifically requested The Enquirer to ask DeWine when zoos can reopen but his office did not make anyone available to comment for their story. He is a big media guy and believes in Freedom of the Press, so that coupled with his response on "Meet the Press" should indicate he is not close to making a decision. A DeWine spokesman said zoos are also considered large venue gatherings, akin to baseball games. DeWine has said such gatherings – where it can be hard to prevent people from congregating – will be among the last to resume. I suspect it will be some time before we hear anything from the Governor's office. I am thinking around Father's Day so he can evaluate if we see a spike in cases that may pop up from venues that have re-opened and got people going in and out of these places and get past the "magic number" of 14 days (as in most states required a self-quarantine of 14 days). I think if he is pressured for a response he will say they are not opening this year, so maybe giving him time to evaluate the science of the re-openings may afford him the opportunity to announce a day they can open. Now whether they decide to open or not at that date is another story. Much past July 4th, CF may decide it isn't worth the cost and effort.

And if they are not able to open, I am sure rides are like other pieces of machinery (cars, HVAC, etc.) and that it is good to run them periodically so that sensors and valves and hoses and other components do not rot away. It really is surprising how quickly components can go bad after just a year of neglect or not being used. I have an older tablet that I hadn't used in about 6 months and it won't turn on even plugged in or take a charge now - light stays red after days of being plugged in. Find anyone with an older vehicle that was running fine and they let it sit a year - if it even starts, dash lights usually start coming on just from simple neglect of letting them sit a year unused.

Butler County Fair the lastest fair to cancel in Ohio. https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/butler-county/butler-county-fair-cancelled-over-health-concerns

Plans to the not so secret new parking toll booth

Hopefully it will be better than the test run at Carowinds last year...it was only at one place and you could only order a whole pizza, even though it said you could get meal plan items? And in true CF fashion, you couldn't order a drink or a drink refill on the app. They still cannot figure out how to allow that to happen LOL. Gotta love going to a kiosk or online ordering and scanning your meal plan, yet still have to see a person at the register to get your drink refill. I can assure you that will still be the process. And you could only make one order at a time.

Well some districts are considering Saturdays... https://kfiam640.iheart.com/content/2020-05-13-schools-considering-saturday-classes-to-make-up-for-lost-time/

We can ride a Diamondback then

Based on molecule size. It is why it can't stop a fart but is fairly effective against a shart (kinda like a sneeze lol) A topic for chemistry class you can ask lol. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-8275855/amp/Professor-answers-question-jeans-stop-fart-mask-prevent-coronavirus.html

Based on his interview on "Meet the Press" and his demeanor and approach during his press conferences, I'm thinking DeWine is going to wait until closer to Father's Day to decide on the rest of the openings so that he can see what happens around the country and in Ohio with things opening up. Since the "magic number" seems to be 14 days (as in places have used 14 days for self-quarantine purposes), I think he wants to let science guide his decision, so let the current places be open for more than 14 days to allow a cycle of people to go out and then re-evaluate in about a month. I just think he would have said an announcement would be soon if it were any closer.

Well people say it hit capacity, but the park officially said it never hit capacity - it was October 19th - but basically every Saturday in October was what most would consider near capacity. https://www.cleveland19.com/2019/11/06/ceo-cedar-points-parent-company-says-changes-will-be-made-parking-gold-pass-sales-spike/

I think those dates in Ohio are more place holders in anticipation of being allowed to open. Remember Disney kept doing the same thing too. Having those dates out there is simply a free way for a park to gauge interest in people returning as well. It is one thing for someone to say they would return on a survey, it is totally different to actually make a reservation and a hotel being full of reservations is a good indicator to a Disney that people will come. Would people actually go to a Great Wolf or Kalahari if their waterparks cannot be open? Same with a CP property if Cedar Point isn't open? As it stands right now, the Ohio Governor's Opening Order only pertains to pools regulated by local health departments, such as public pools or health clubs. It does not apply to waterparks and amusement parks. I guess Kalahari believes they are not a waterpark I guess we will find out if the Governor does not allow water parks to open by June 5th what it would be considered. Kalahari may want to change their webpage as they consider themselves a waterpark...

If this proposal happens, the NBA players could end every interview with "I'm going to Disney World" https://www.yahoo.com/sports/could-disney-world-really-solve-100048147.html I wonder if that means every game will need to be on ESPN or ABC

Imagine a ride like Drop Tower where a lot of the time the guests don't go to the correct assigned seat to begin with LOL. Would they do an even/odd seat cycle and then wipe down. What about family members - they couldn't sit by each other in an even/odd seat pattern. It will be interesting to see their plan for the flats.

Still relevant as to what near future or near term or relatively soon actually means LOL

No more free masks at Universal: "Universal is requiring all guests to wear a face covering during their visit. If you don’t have a face covering, they will be available for purchase. During the proposal to the Orange County Economic Recovery Task Force, Universal claimed that a free disposable mask would be given to guests who don’t have one, but that has now changed. Universal will also continue the temperature checks for each guest prior to their arrival to the theme parks and Universal CityWalk. A guest will be denied entry if they have a temperature of 100.4 degrees or greater." https://universal.wdwinfo.com/universal-officially-reopening-june-5-hours-revealed-and-free-face-masks-retracted/

The one thing about DeWine is that he seems to be a straight-shooter and in his previous press conferences when a reporter would ask him something like when could salon's or daycare open and he would say he wasn't ready to make an announcement on it or he would have an announcement on it later in the week, you knew then he had a date in mind but wasn't ready to share it. Following that pattern, it is clear he doesn't even have a date in mind yet concerning amusement parks. Or he has a great poker face regarding this announcement and should make an appearance on the World Series of Poker What is more telling is a reporter asked him last week about his thoughts regarding the Ohio State Fair (that happens end of July to early August) cancelling for 2020 and DeWine said it was a good decision. A follow up question then centered on County Fairs and he gave an answer alluding to they will probably follow what the Ohio State Fair had done but that he hoped that at least the 4-H competition aspect could occur in some form or fashion if a procedure could be developed to allow it to do so. I get the feeling that he doesn't have a desire to open up anything he considers a mass gathering of people anytime soon. Now pressure from other avenues may change that or force his hand, but as of right now, it isn't looking promising. Then throw in the fact that a lot of KI seasonal employees probably took jobs elsewhere and would they give that up for less than a month of daily operation, coupled with universities like Notre Dame announcing they are starting the fall term two weeks early to try to get fall semester completed in-person, and the candidate pool of people eager and wanting to work there shrinks. Yes we have lot's of people unemployed, but that doesn't mean they are required to apply or work there and a lot of them probably make more on unemployment than they would working at KI.

Read the post he was replying to - it was in reference to American Dream Mall...

Here is an article with a link to the "Meet the Press" interview. https://www.wkyc.com/article/entertainment/places/cedar-point/cedar-point-reopening-process-ohio-governor-mike-dewine/95-23367287-f0bb-4ee6-93b5-1533d0d441ac

DeWine is a family man, so with Monday a holiday I doubt it will change (Yeah it is hard to believe Memorial Day is here already!)

Did you notice he called it a place of a mass gathering of people... One has to wonder again if they do re-open this summer - CF reps on the quarterly call indicated how long it would take them to re-open once a date is given and one could take away from that call that they didn't plan on bringing staff in to train until that date has passed...now that thought process could change as we get into June, but if they don't start calling in seasonal staff to start training and open up new job openings soon in anticipation of an opening date, a lack of staff may be the bigger issue in re-opening at some point...

On "Meet the Press", DeWine said Cedar Point is an area of interest that has yet to be given a re-open date, but he does not have a date in mind for what he called places of mass gatherings of people to re-open. He alluded to we need to get more data on places starting to open up and determine the spread and highly recommended people where masks and follow the guidelines/protocols in place for businesses open to help contain the spread. Now he may surprise us this week with an announcement, but his body language and tone certainly did not come across as someone that had a date in mind and was sheepishly saying he didn't. If he announces Tuesday an opening date, that dude needs to play poker as he could have a winning hand and act like he has nothing LOL

Not that the media is always right, but a TV station is reporting it as well: https://www.wkyc.com/mobile/article/entertainment/places/cedar-point/meet-the-press-chuck-todd-praises-cedar-point/95-b30af8a3-9ed5-40a2-95d5-2248fb30a70d

Even when an attraction opens up in defiance of a Governor order people show up in mass...wonder what a park will look like when they are allowed to open! https://www.yahoo.com/news/hundreds-line-houston-area-waterpark-172847936.html

Here is a click-bait headline for the Cincinnati Zoo reopen plan where the headline says they plan to reopen June 1, but you read the article and makes no mention of a date (plus Governor has not issued a date allowing them to reopen)... (edit - since the media outlet original posting of their article, they updated it to remove the June 1 date, but it still shows in the URL). https://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/hamilton-county/cincinnati/cincinnati-zoo-announces-plan-for-limited-reopening-on-june-1 And the official Zoo press release for once they are allowed to open and is subject to change based on any further restrictions the Governor's office requires as a condition for re-opening and says opening date TBD: http://cincinnatizoo.org/prepare-for-your-zoo-visit/