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Fun, Fireworks and Fifty

Only one bar in the area? How about a space themed craft beer festival...

So will they refund those that purchased based on others being able to use at other parks lol (sarcastic rhetorical question)... I, and others, have said before, but it is sounding more and more like this should have been a park specific add-on instead of a new pass. The one-time front of the line perk at other parks with the program is a significant perk that the loss of that makes prestige+ less attractive.

The Prestige pass just good for KI is $299 total (plus fees and taxes). So if the gold pass is $130, the Prestige would be $169 more.

^Good catch - more and more so looking like this would have been better rolled out as a Prestige add-on rather than a new pass... So in the write up CP says it acts like a gold pass at other parks, yet in the write up for Platinum it says: Then, there’s a new “premium version” of the Platinum Pass that adds even more benefits. It’s the… NEW! PRESTIGE PLUS PASS which the gold pass comment obviously contradicts this. Wonder if CP meant to say platinum instead of gold? The roll-out of this and communication inconsistencies has been horrible, yet people are purchasing it even with all these discrepancies and unknowns....

Carowinds, Dominion, and Knotts have longer seasons, so one could assume all things being equal that they would be higher than KI and only Knotts is. Cost of living is higher in Charlotte than Cincinnati so that rules that difference out. CP and Wonderland seem woefully underpriced for the attendance they both get, especially Wonderland given the cost of living adjustments (even with the conversions) that is higher than Cincinnati.

^One could argue that KI gold should be higher than CP as we have Winterfest and our season starts earlier, yet that argument fails as Wonderland is also $99CND ($78USD) and they have Winterfest... The pricing scheme is very inconsistent this year.

Timberwolf returning confirmed

A flat tire

Will a tire driven lift hill suffer from the same problems of tire driven Surf Dog and Viking Fury during the rain?

^so based on this, it sounds like those that had KI Prestige + and went to CP and got the Prestige benefits like single use front of the line were in error and those that decided to purchase Prestige+ based on experiences others have shared about it working at CP are now "screwed"....I am sure some think that the single use front of the line at parks with Prestige found that to be a useful benefit and reason to purchase. I understand that the TOS indicate benefits and stuff can change and that will be the corporate line when people complain, but it really seems like some of this should be basic stuff that should have been nailed down prior to selling them. Was it that hard to decide before it went live if Prestige+ would allow the one time front of the line pass at any park offering such benefit? Or conditions of other benefits like the exclusive entrance? Clear communication seems to be a struggle with CF... And since the language is still not clear, based on CP language the front of the line, dedicated entrance, and preferred parking for those with Prestige+ for those that purchased at CP are only good there, yet if you purchase Prestige+ at KI the current language still says "+Prestige + Passholder benefits may vary by park. Contact the park you are planning to visit for any questions regarding applicable benefits." and doesn't show the same limitations as the CP site, so does that mean one purchased at KI could give you those benefits at CP as folks have experienced but not the other way around? It really is sounding like they should have made this a season pass add-on instead of a new pass - I think a lot of this would have been clearer and easier that way...then it was either have only one add-on option that only worked at the "home park" OR provide one that extended said benefits to other parks with that program.

^I agree and is why I said in my post that was attacked that "Haunt is assumed and likely will happen" but the wording in the announcement is vague and does give them an out and wiggle room should they decide to go in a different direction. I was simply pointing this out that it can be interpreted different ways... Winterfest and Grand Carnivale is clear which parks are getting it based on the announcement; Haunt and Trick&Treats are assumed since they didn't specifically mention the parks...but the assumption is probably correct....but it isn't clear to a new or potential customer that may not be aware which parks currently have it. But most of us could have assumed the parks getting Winterfest and Grand Carnvale as well... Why be specific for two of the events and not the Fall events? As you said, anything can happen.

^I read it that way because they eliminated Haunt at two parks this year....and depending on how Haunt goes from a security standpoint, it is always possible that a park may decide not to continue with it... If all 10 parks were to have both why wouldn't they use AND instead of OR.... And why didn't they specifically mention the 10 parks for Tricks and Treats or Haunt....They specifically announced the parks getting Winterfest... Your wording above is much better and clearer... But as we have seen with the Prestige pass confusion, wording of statements are not their strong suit

It does seem odd that they are deviating a bit from their previous costing model. Could be a couple of different reasons: KI is a more valuable asset than the other parks so they are reflecting that in the pricing. Adjusting to cost of living/cost of doing business variations across the communities they have parks in. They sold too many gold passes to KI and are trying the Disney approach (that failed lol) at raising costs to better control attendance. Some other reason or no reason at all.

Wow...what another great human interest story and blog that puts people at the heart of the events. Great story telling and giving the reader someone to relate to and taps into our natural curiosity in the lives of others. I am sure many of us have seen the shows the mother was in back in the early 90s (but also many here were not even born yet LOL) and encourages us to go see the new show. It is story telling like this blog and the previous one on the twin boys in Off the Rails that pique people's interest and provides another reason to maybe go catch the event. This is the type of stuff the media should pick up on. The Enquirer and local news outlets are always doing human interest stories, and these would be perfect free marketing for the park outside of the park domain channels to reach potential customers.

While Haunt is assumed and likely will happen, they did put OR in the statement....so they could go the way of other CF parks that eliminated Haunt in favor of Tricks and Treats only.... In the fall, 10 parks will offer Halloween-themed special events such as Tricks and Treats or Halloween Haunt that are sure to appeal to those looking for some frightful family fun or a good scare. And as temperatures drop, WinterFest will return to Carowinds, California’s Great America, Kings Dominion, Canada’s Wonderland and Kings Island. It seems across social media most feel like this on the announcement for KI

But then they caveat it with language that sounds like you may get other benefits at other parks if they offer it....like obviously if a park doesn't have a VIP lounge or a Prestige program then you wouldn't get those benefits there. +Prestige + Passholder benefits may vary by park. Contact the park you are planning to visit for any questions regarding applicable benefits. So if you have Prestige+ from KI and have already went to CP and used said benefits as many have already, were they given that in error or does this caveat language allow it? I think it is a big enough difference that they need to make clear. Value goes up a lot if it works at parks with similar amenities...

Yeah a few of those would be perfect right next to the 2 hour entrance thing! No sense bugging GS every time for the printout!

With the addition of this pass, hopefully that would encourage either longer hours of a staff person at the FL booth or offer the ability to print the ticket elsewhere, like maybe a store or the VIP lounge.

^Not the mistake I am pointing out LOL, but under Don't waste your money is better than when it shows up in the Crime section like these https://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/mason/thats-what-kings-islands-all-about-family-and-keeping-traditions-former-employees-lifelong-parkgoers-celebrate-parks-50th-anniversary https://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/mason/kings-islands-soak-city-water-park-participates-in-worlds-largest-swim-lesson https://www.wcpo.com/money/angies-list/local/kings-islands-the-bat-coaster-formerly-top-gun-reopens-after-repairs https://www.wcpo.com/news/crime/mason/kings-island-permanently-closes-sling-shot

Thinking ahead a few months, it will be interesting to see which Halloween type attractions implement a similar policy.

Anyone else notice the mistake in the article and ad on the WCPO website LOL

Either you got an email with a link...or use the link on the 1st post It is only the Prestige and Prestige + pass on sale at KI right now.

But then there is the * about contact a park you visit for their benefits and folks have already tested the Prestige pass at another park and the benefits worked (except for 15%), so either they got the benefit in error or they work elsewhere?

One can certainly see removal or re-opening based on their perspective/bias for the ride. Time will tell the fate. We have heard the arguments why it won't reopen (and all are valid points BTW). Some arguments why it might re-open include: If they planned to remove it, then why not simply remove it from the website, park map, queue wait times, etc. Just show a blank space like Mean Streak and SOB? Saying it wouldn't reopen in 2022 likely indicates that they had not decided at the start of the season the fate yet. Those are a lot of markings well outside of the ride area - if they are switching significant electrical components and more power is needed there, that could explain the markings further away. Or the markers away from the ride are part of the removal and renovation of that area. But some the markers are too far away for a simple removal of the ride. The markings do not extend or go beyond the top hat portion - maybe they are not done surveying, but the largest part of the structure would certainly have utilities marked it it were coming down. Removing/trimming the bushes in the turnaround area would be low priority in removal of the ride. Could this be a relocated queue area? We will find out soon enough, but all we know for sure is that activity is happening around the ride that sat dormant most of the year. It could be for removal or it could be for refurbishment.