Beast extended downtime

[McSalsa]

Quick question: How many trains running? All 3, or just 1 or 2? If less than 3 then it may hint one of the trains was the issue.

[IndyGuy4KI]

So, any changes noticed @BoddaH1994?

[BoddaH1994]

Just rode. All 3 trains were running. There is a small section that has new wood at the bottom of the dip after the tunnel at the bottom of the first hill. Rode in the last car, middle row. Ran just fine. We had a great night ride!

[IndyGuy4KI]

Awesome, can't wait to get a spin on it with the track work performed. 

[NegativeGs]

With The Beast at KI down last weekend, I drove to CP for a change. CP has phenomenal steel/hybrid coasters, but lousy wooden coasters. Looking forward to visiting KI again this coming weekend. And a night ride on The Beast.

[King Ding Dong]

10 minutes ago, NegativeGs said:

With The Beast at KI down last weekend, I drove to CP for a change. CP has phenomenal steel/hybrid coasters, but lousy wooden coasters. Looking forward to visiting KI again this coming weekend. And a night ride on The Beast.

What are the names of these wooden coasters at CP you speak of?

[NegativeGs]

3 minutes ago, King Ding Dong said:

What are the names of these wooden coasters at CP you speak of?

Blue Streak. And that's about it, sadly. 

[King Ding Dong]

2 minutes ago, NegativeGs said:

Blue Streak. And that's about it, sadly. 

Fortunately having only one seems to be working out very well for them.  

[NegativeGs]

Just now, King Ding Dong said:

Fortunately having only one seems to be working out very well for them.  

Maybe, maybe not. Steel Vengeance, Maverick, and Top Thrill Dragster have been down repeatedly during my six CP visits this year.

[King Ding Dong]

14 minutes ago, NegativeGs said:

Maybe, maybe not. Steel Vengeance, Maverick, and Top Thrill Dragster have been down repeatedly during my six CP visits this year.

They always have been.  Attendance shows their strategy of steel coasters has been working out very well for them.  How’s The Beast?

[NegativeGs]

2 minutes ago, King Ding Dong said:

They always have been.  Attendance shows their strategy of steel coasters has been working out very well for them.  How’s The Beast?

I'll let you know when I enjoy a night ride this coming Saturday. Fingers crossed 

[meridian88]

I rode The Beast just before 8:00 tonight. I was in row 6. I thought it was a lot rougher than in the past. The long tunnel after the 2nd lift hill was the roughest in my opinion. Earlier posts said it was good earlier in the season so hopefully it’s something they can get resolved soon.

[PKIVortex]

You were over a wheel so yes it would have been a bit rough.

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[Oldschool75]

Looks like they band aided it to finish the season. Hoping they let GG come in and retrack in the off season. The Beast really needs a complete overhaul.


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[MDMC01]

Thanks for all the updates everyone; I look forward to riding Saturday!

[JimParker85]

It will be interesting to see if they decide to re-track large portions of it, similar to what has occurred with Racer in the last couple of seasons. I think it still rides well in middle rows, but we no longer will ride it in a back row of any car. 

[Bansheelover]

Rode The Beast today around 1pm. Row 2 very rough, it was my 23rd ride of the year, and the worst. Kings Island and Cedar Fair need to address this situation, and get this right.

[SpectralBeacon]

I was assigned the back seat today and boy howdy, that was the roughest ride I think I've ever had on a roller coaster. It felt pretty alright on the new retracted drop, but otherwise I was ready to be done by the second tunnel before lift 2.

[disco2000]

Meanwhile, I thought it felt better than usual today in row 2.  But it is wooden and everyone has a different perspective and the ride can change throughout the day because of this.  I felt backrow of Diamondback today was worse than The Beast...

[silver2005]

One thing you have to remember with wooden coasters is that they vary drastically with the weather since its a more natural/living substance that steel.  I'm of the belief that they ride better when its cooler/damper.  They can get pretty gnarly in the heat, even the good ones.   On my trip to Dollywood last month, I noticed even Thunderhead had a bit more of a jackhammer in spots during the day (90 degrees for the high) and ran perfectly later in the evening into the night. 

And, to me, steel coasters are the opposite. 

silver2005, who's best Racer ride was on a wheel seat pre-re-tracking.

[robintodd]

Rode it last ride of the night last night row 17 (the usual) and it was fantastic.  Noticed no difference in it compared to earlier this season or last season.

[BeeastFarmer]

My experience on The Beast says that the trains ride differently too.  Train 2 being the roughest, Train 3 being ok and Train 1 being the best.

[YOULLBEBACK]

I would be shocked if they didn't re-track a large portion of this before next year, the 50th season and all that. 

[DoomPlague]

8 hours ago, robintodd said:

Rode it last ride of the night last night row 17 (the usual) and it was fantastic.  Noticed no difference in it compared to earlier this season or last season.

I too got row 17 yesterday. Ran well.

I actually like to try different non-wheel rows but I asked for row 17 and as I'm walking towards it, I hear the young guy right behind me ask for it. Whoops.

[CorkscrewMcPuke]

Don't crucify me for bringing this up, but assuming that The Beast requires significant retracking there is a non-zero chance that CF might consider RMCing it. It's not a fate that I am comfortable with, but more tragic things than that have happened in the past. The park's 50th is coming up soon after all, so radical change is always possibility even if unpopular with many.

[silver2005]

Beast is honestly due for a re-tracking.  I mean, look how Racer turned out. 

[IndyGuy4KI]

5 minutes ago, silver2005 said:

Beast is honestly due for a re-tracking.  I mean, look how Racer turned out. 

There is no way they could do the whole ride in one off season. It would have to be in sections over multiple years.

[silver2005]

^I remember they did a lot of retracking around the time Diamondback first opened and that turned out pretty good.  They also did it in segments. 

Also, a Beast RMC job would probably rival Orion on costs. 

[DoomPlague]

44 minutes ago, silver2005 said:

^I remember they did a lot of retracking around the time Diamondback first opened and that turned out pretty good.  They also did it in segments. 

Also, a Beast RMC job would probably rival Orion on costs. 

I'm not sure about that but The Beast is definitely not the kind of ride where you get a big savings with an RMC that uses the existing structure.

[BeeastFarmer]

2 hours ago, IndyGuy4KI said:

There is no way they could do the whole ride in one off season. It would have to be in sections over multiple years.

There is/are a way/s that it could be done.  The entire ride was built in what 1.5 years?

It's probable, but not practical to do it all one season.  If they sought proposals and a reputable contractor came back with one to retrack that was very favorable and within budget, they could make it happen.  But with current hard material and labor costs, its not likely.