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^they only use weather as an excuse for lower than expected attendance LOL. They will pat themselves on the back that the large attendance today is merger related and proof this is what the consumer wanted But yeah we know it is weather related and the reason for Saturday sized crowds.

Lines are crazy long. Wow the merger is helping attendance already

Maybe MEMI will buy it

I think the opposite and they will be branded with SixFlags naming within 3 years. There is a reason they decided to go with Six Flags over Cedar Fair for merger name. As you pointed out, Six Flags naming is brand recognition and they will want to capitalize on it.

SIX budget cuts starting early

Mainly just the rides without power. Music still blaring and passes work to scan in. But some of that tweet stuff may be set to auto go out.

Most of the rides are without power.

The line closes at 10pm. If you are in before then, you will ride.

Park PR/marketing folks probably love when enthusiasts do this....

Lucky nobody got hurt https://www.yahoo.com/news/six-flags-roaring-rapids-ride-120017956.html

Yeah, at the end of the day, I doubt Banshee would see any modifications as it meets/exceeds all standards and making a change could imply fault. But I could see a future invert maybe increase the ground clearance. But even if they expanded the clearances on existing and future inverts, someone someday would do something stupid anyway. You cannot completely eliminate all risks for someone that is determined to do risky behavior. Fences and signage should be enough.

Lasted longer than TT2

It comes down to how did the park contract the work. Did the park enter into a design contract with only B&M and thus B&M is the "responsible" entity for the architectural firm that designed the station, the geotechnical firm that designed the footings, the fencing firm that designed the fencing, etc. or did the park enter into design contracts with each company separately....that does make a difference.... If it was a design contract or design-build contract with B&M to provide them with a turnkey attraction, then KI officials point to B&M even if B&M didn't design the particular aspect that has an issue. Now how B&M would deal with that internally with their subs is up to them, but the park points to one entity. But even if it were separate contracts, why would you think B&M wouldn't look at this to see what they could do to prevent it for future designs, if anything. It would be foolish to just brush it off as guest error as there is always something that could be done. Let's use an analogy from another B&M coaster. People defending the Orion is a giga debate talk a lot about how someone wouldn't notice if they had added 13 feet to the height of Orion to make it a "true" giga, just like the ground near misses on Banshee would be basically the same if the ground near misses were raised 4 more feet or however many feet needed so that someone 7 feet tall wouldn't get hit by a coaster going by. And a rider pointed straight to the ground at 60MPH will still feel like a near miss whether they are 4 or 8 feet from the ground. And just because it is "not in any way a result of their product's failure" doesn't mean that they simply ignore this or not consider that a change on a future design could prevent this from future inverts. Maybe after this many incidents with a similar model they decide the next inverted coaster will be higher off the ground so that this doesn't happen again on future installs. This happens enough times and a regulatory body steps in or they lose a lawsuit. Now fortunately for ride manufacturers, there is no national standard like the NTSB for transportation related issues, because after this many similar incidents with one particular manufacturer, a federal government agency would likely mandate changes, similar to what they do with automobile recalls. Could you imagine if Banshee had to be shut down for extended period while they raised the near miss ground elements! And the costs and who picks up that tab. And then the thrill of roller coasters starts to diminish as regulations would push for no ground near misses, no coaster crossing over a midway, etc. And my splitting hairs comment was in relation to how the design contract was entered into and thus who is the "responsible" party, not the self-insured part....

Now you are just splitting hairs to be argumentative. Of course B&M subcontracts to others for various aspects that are not their core service, but the fence design (and architectural, structural, electrical, other civil site drawings, etc.) would be incorporated into B&M's overall design plans that are reviewed and discussed with the park and approved by the various agencies. Certainly the manufacturer would take any incident, even totally guest related, into consideration as to if any modifications to existing or future similar designs should be considered. At the end of the day, maybe the determination is made that nothing else needs to change, but they would be foolish to not take a least a cursory review as part of continuous improvement practices. It isn't like there are millions of these designs out in operation, so when something like this happens, they will know about it will see if there are any lessons learned.

CF is self-insured, but regardless as that isn't the point, the point is that the ride manufacturer provides the fence plan sheets that details the attraction's restricted area barrier to keep people out of areas that the ride could hit someone....the ride manufacturer isn't going to open themselves up to that liability by not providing that basic design element.

In honor of that, CF parks will adopt SIX operating hours, parks will be closed on Tuesdays, and meal plans are not valid after labor day (I joke, but who knows what the merger will bring as the two chains decide to adopt each others "best practices")

The merger will result in cost conscious thinking, so I doubt this is even on their radar. If anyone would be looking at if any adjustments are necessary, it would be the manufacturer of the ride B&M. But even then, unless you install metal detectors at the rides to prevent any loose articles, including those in zipper pockets, from being on the ride like some other rides do, lockers and bins wouldn't have prevented this as people would feel they can secure the item or afraid someone would steal it from a bin or locker. At the end of the day, if someone is motivated enough, no barrier would stop them. Do you want an amusement park and ride areas to look like a jail? Inmates escape from jails, so additional fencing and razor wire and whatever else jails do wouldn't be the answer. A fence/wall is universally accepted as being a barrier that shouldn't be crossed.

Obviously the previous forklift operator dropped the train and the painter painted over the damage

The gravy is too runny?

New position or was the previous one fired....

It is open with the longest line in the park. But that doesn't mean it won't go down at some point for the normal stuff it or any other ride goes down for.

Update with name and dismissing some rumors https://local12.com/news/local/we-hit-something-kings-island-employee-talks-about-roller-coaster-hitting-guest-rollercoaster-ride-mason-warren-county-amusement-park-accident-wreck-restricted-area-injured-hospitalized-speed-Banshee-diamonback-the-beast-cedar-point-coaster-investigation#

21degrees and colder is open for those looking to partake in drinks not on the drink plan.

You joke, but with the SIX merger, wouldn't surprise me lol.