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Don't give them any ideas LOL. Imagine the comments if they now made Winterfest an add-on or meal and drink plans not valid after Labor Day. Sadly Six has already done the Labor Day thing to meal plans in the past, so I could see that happen.

Sure, but when they added 20ish something days to the calendar for Winterfest and never adjusted the season pass price to accommodate those extra days, it is now taking your pass price and spreading it over more days. The lights ain't free. If the daily admits have steadily dropped over time and it is mainly passholders and meal plans coming, how can that pay for all of Winterfest? I have said here before Winterfest doesn't make as much as people think and would be surprised if it stuck around longer than the original version. One bad winter and it is money loser. I think they would be more inclined to cancel Winterfest and extend the season thru November. That way if a weekend sucks, they just don't open or close early and haven't spent a lot of money, whereas a bad winter after spending all the time and money to put up the lights can't afford to close a weekend or early.

That was great. It is awesome to hear stories folks never heard about.

Fast Lane to bankruptcy

And people think I am crazy when I say that KD could be one of the sacrificed parks from Six Flags....all the signs are there...but it is a nice park and of size and potential that could be lumped in with the smaller parks they want to shed as a way to encourage higher bids.

Oh they already are showing up ....or are they getting pulled out of storage to scrap them

Also remember that 4 board seats have already changed out with people from outside of either legacy chain, so we are not too many more seats removed from the majority not being from CF or SIX legacy...the next round of board replacements (whenever that happens) will be telling as to the direction.

Case in point - the golf course across the street once had two 18-hole championship courses and a 9 hole executive (par 3) course. It is now one 18 hole golf course with the prior courses now houses/condos/etc. and a parking lot for a 2-week tennis tournament!

To pull a phrase from the Six Flags quarterly conference calls, I am going to add some additional color to your comments LOL. The greater Cincinnati region (tri-state) is 2.3 million people. Santa Claus Indiana where Holiday World is located is 2,600 population. Mason High School is 3,500 population. There are more people at one local high school than the entire town of Santa Claus IN. That is why a place like HW needs bigger and better attractions and needs outsiders more than 45 minutes away to be successful. KI doesn't. The Mason stay home mom with 3 kids isn't going to load the kids up in the minivan to HW 3-4 times per week. Maybe a one trip per year or every couple of years. But she sure as heck will do that to go to KI. And anyone really within a 45-60min drive of KI. KI fits that bill.

Took so long to get it going, the return window for the wheels is long gone, so might as well use them up

First you said guaranteed it was a new ride and now you say likely...that is a big difference... I am just pointing out an early closure could be just that - it could be a repair coming up they don't want to spend and nothing is planned. Likelihood is it is some sort of new attraction, but it isn't guaranteed at this point until we see an announcement or something else other than a closure. But at the same time, given the pass sale and everything else going on, why wouldn't they take advantage of this notice with a simple "being closed to make way for something new in 2026"? Maybe it is just poor marketing 101 or they don't have anything planned.

What if there is an expensive fix on the horizon and they are concerned about the ride working until end of December and nothing is planned? Didn't many people think Vortex had a planned replacement....

Have you seen the Warren County Master Plan and land-use report showing the best and highest use of the property or are you just speculating? Keep in mind just across the street, golf courses that operated year round were removed because it can make more money for 2 weeks as a non-paved parking lot for a tennis tournament...There was a time they would just fence off the greens and tee boxes and have cars park in the fairway for those 2 weeks. Your speculation may be correct or it may always remain KI, but land development can be weird, and if a developer offered Six Flags the right number, any park could be gone...just like many of the golf courses surrounding KI that have been turned into high end subdivisions, Kroger, other retail, etc.

And yet look how many complaining on FB that they bought a 2025 pass a week before the sale...

When they made mazes an upcharge

Today guests are treated to 1 of 3 sides at the Brewhouse at no charge - tots, coleslaw, or grapes. Here today, gone tomorrow?

If it is not going to open next year, then why eliminate this year an indoor attraction for Haunt and Winterfest unless there is some imminent issue that they don't think it will last until end of December? That would give them roughly 15 months if it is a 2027 attraction.

Let's play devils advocate. What if the public outcry and attendance drop is so bad they decide to revert back to the old way during the season - will they refund this pass add-on? I personally think that even despite the public outcry, these add on charges will still sell and will be successful and thus justifying to the board to consider upselling more things in the future. Then the question becomes when is too much?

I would assume by them calling the mazes premium experiences requiring separate admission, that this includes passholders having to pay for these as well, especially since there is a pass add-on now for the mazes.

What if they still allow strollers and no boo necklaces and the same experiences that were free last year?

People will be ticked. People will still pay. But this is different than the pay Winterfest. With this you still get access to the park, just not the mazes. And to many people that is all they do for Haunt. But this will make ride lines longer. But people also don't pay attention, so the outcry to Guest Services will be huge. Take last night as an example. A lot of ticked off people at Guest Services at close and arguments with security last night at 8pm because people thought the park closed at 10pm, despite 8pm close being on the calendar since January...

This will now be the addition they announced last year. No way would they say they planned on a new ride but scrapped it lol.

And it is official that the mazes are NOT included with entry. One can buy a pass per day or an all season add-on for $59

Seems like your post didn't age well and all the concern folks had was real....

Not that ChatGPT is always right LOL, but I asked it which is more popular LOL: When comparing the popularity of Peanuts and Looney Tunes, it really depends on the context — whether you're talking about cultural impact, revenue, or fan base. Looney Tunes: These characters (like Bugs Bunny, Daffy Duck, and Tweety Bird) are more ingrained in global pop culture. Since its creation in the 1930s, Looney Tunes has expanded across countless TV shows, movies, video games, theme parks, and merchandise. Its vibrant, slapstick humor has had an enduring appeal to both kids and adults worldwide. The franchise is a staple in animation history. Peanuts: Charles Schulz's Peanuts, which features Charlie Brown, Snoopy, and the gang, has a different kind of cultural impact. It's much more grounded and often thought of for its heartwarming, sometimes melancholic, messages. Peanuts is widely loved, especially around holidays like Christmas and Thanksgiving (thanks to the iconic A Charlie Brown Christmas and It's the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown specials). The strip itself ran for decades and left a huge mark on the comic world, though in terms of global brand recognition, it’s slightly less in-your-face than Looney Tunes. In terms of sheer recognition and reach, Looney Tunes might take the lead globally, especially considering its continuous presence in pop culture and merchandising.