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Hanks and Enrique's is the same food and inside is the same. They slapped some paint on the exterior and a new name and the place is way more packed than it was as Hanks (I don't ever recall Hanks having a line out the door and that is common now), so it did make a positive difference.... The market has changed and comparing the KI of today/tomorrow to the KI of yesteryear is setting one up for disappointment. Comparing the record breaking and prototypes we used to get to now is a fair comparison and you are right based on that comparison, but their strategy then was to get name recognition and be known and that is not the strategy or market right now. Right now families is where the money is. That is where the investment will continue until the market and consumer spending dictate a change. But I don't see a coaster wars scenario returning until there is close competition to warrant it. Right now CP, HW, DW, KI, etc. all have their lanes and it is working for them.

I overhead Mike saying it at the Cheesecake Factory (cross-threading)

So the calls to John can start up again

Or another teaser

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/goodfood-chair-ceo-jonathan-ferrari-steps-down-six-flags-executive-chairman-selim-bassoul-to-lead-board-59dc6857?mod=investing

What if 8/28 is just another teaser and not an announcement LOL

Yeah, Terpy would be having a field day with this merger! I think the only way that would be a violation would be if that was their intent all along to not do these improvements and they mentioned it to deceive investors. I think they could make the argument that company performance failed to meet expectations and proceeding with these improvements and taking on more debt would be more detrimental to the shareholders than delaying the improvements. But I am not a lawyer and blah blah blah lol

Would be nice if the article said what the violations were....having poor performance isn't a securities law violation... https://www.kget.com/business/press-releases/accesswire/1062877/six-flags-entertainment-corporation-fun-under-investigation-for-potential-securities-law-violations-contact-levi-korsinsky-today/

Now they are just toying with us.

But But But people said it is always crowded and would never leave....

We both knew, and expect, the park to be busy during Haunt despite this change. People love themselves the spooky season. People have been complaining for years that Haunt is watered down and just a regurgitation of Haunt 2019, yet every year we see tons of people in the park and Fast Lane lines approaching, out the queue. People complain, but people still show up. Gotta love the people on FB claiming they bought their passes EXCLUSIVELY for Haunt but when they start charging $10 for the mazes suddenly all of the haunted houses are run-down run-of-the-mill boring snoozefests that aren't worth a nickel out of your pocket. If that's the case, why did you buy a pass just to go? Some of the biggest complainers I know were among the first to buy that pass LOL

Case in point - charging to park and never filling in the potholes

Yeah, we would all love to know that number. But given the rumor that season long FL sales are now uncapped (and based on the lines the past few years on busy Saturdays and Haunt Saturdays, one would probably agree they are not capped), one would have expected this money grab to be uncapped as well. Unless they truly do plan to keep the lines minimal and the attraction top notch. I guess we find out in a little over a month! But I am sure the procrastinators that were going to buy this are now ticked!

For all those complaining that the upcharge was stupid and would fail, the season long option is now sold out....

Sure, and I see people pay for parking, but we never see the potholes fixed Putting on Winterfest is a major expense for 20 something days.

Don't give them any ideas LOL. Imagine the comments if they now made Winterfest an add-on or meal and drink plans not valid after Labor Day. Sadly Six has already done the Labor Day thing to meal plans in the past, so I could see that happen.

Sure, but when they added 20ish something days to the calendar for Winterfest and never adjusted the season pass price to accommodate those extra days, it is now taking your pass price and spreading it over more days. The lights ain't free. If the daily admits have steadily dropped over time and it is mainly passholders and meal plans coming, how can that pay for all of Winterfest? I have said here before Winterfest doesn't make as much as people think and would be surprised if it stuck around longer than the original version. One bad winter and it is money loser. I think they would be more inclined to cancel Winterfest and extend the season thru November. That way if a weekend sucks, they just don't open or close early and haven't spent a lot of money, whereas a bad winter after spending all the time and money to put up the lights can't afford to close a weekend or early.

That was great. It is awesome to hear stories folks never heard about.

Fast Lane to bankruptcy

And people think I am crazy when I say that KD could be one of the sacrificed parks from Six Flags....all the signs are there...but it is a nice park and of size and potential that could be lumped in with the smaller parks they want to shed as a way to encourage higher bids.

Oh they already are showing up ....or are they getting pulled out of storage to scrap them

Also remember that 4 board seats have already changed out with people from outside of either legacy chain, so we are not too many more seats removed from the majority not being from CF or SIX legacy...the next round of board replacements (whenever that happens) will be telling as to the direction.

Case in point - the golf course across the street once had two 18-hole championship courses and a 9 hole executive (par 3) course. It is now one 18 hole golf course with the prior courses now houses/condos/etc. and a parking lot for a 2-week tennis tournament!

To pull a phrase from the Six Flags quarterly conference calls, I am going to add some additional color to your comments LOL. The greater Cincinnati region (tri-state) is 2.3 million people. Santa Claus Indiana where Holiday World is located is 2,600 population. Mason High School is 3,500 population. There are more people at one local high school than the entire town of Santa Claus IN. That is why a place like HW needs bigger and better attractions and needs outsiders more than 45 minutes away to be successful. KI doesn't. The Mason stay home mom with 3 kids isn't going to load the kids up in the minivan to HW 3-4 times per week. Maybe a one trip per year or every couple of years. But she sure as heck will do that to go to KI. And anyone really within a 45-60min drive of KI. KI fits that bill.

Took so long to get it going, the return window for the wheels is long gone, so might as well use them up