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I just hope if the weather doesn't cooperate and is a total bust, that people still feel they got their value. Or worse if they cancelled the event, would they refund? That could set the tone for their entire season...

I hope they don't cancel it if it is thunder storming or an overly cloudy day....

As a passholder you already get 10%, or Prestige 15%, and I highly doubt this is on top of the pass discount, so basically a useless perk....

Could you imagine if WB/Paramount merge and then purchase CF/SIX after merger...

Keep in mind the IP the SIX has is very limited in nature and not their entire portfolio. Another issue is the always seem to be rumor that Paramount is looking to get back into the park business. Who knows maybe a merger between WB/Paramount and they decide to make a run again and do not renew their IP with SIX when it expires.

Don't give them any ideas LOL

^and as I have said before, with the board being an equal split and the head of integration being a SIX employee, it could very well lean towards SIX operations as time goes on.

The unitholders not getting a vote isn't new news - it was mentioned when the merger was announced, including being referenced in the 5th post in this thread by @DispatchMaster the day the news broke. But everyone's attention was diverted to the actual announcement and the most vocal probably didn't own units anyway so it wasn't a topic of discussion. But CF is the majority owner everyone says....

Being discussed here.

Being discussed here.

You must go on light days LOL. I have seen Maverick FL exceed 45 minutes.

Another question is will they go to the scan your pass for access to the line option like they tried in the past and Carowinds tested at the end of last year, or will they stick with the wristbands and then need 3 instead of 2 - FL, FL+, and ASFL+

I agree. Time of year makes a difference. In April some grass and foliage is starting to re-emerge and change color, etc. compared to early February. That growth and color differences make a difference in what one sees. Dormant grass can give a more bare appearance and I think that is what is being seen here.

While true, we also have many passholders that have said they will continue to buy a pass regardless of the product being provided because the value is still too great. How many subscribe to that mindset? And as long as the number of "new" passes sold every year equal or outperform those that do not "renew" each year, they really have no incentive to cater to the existing passholder...until of course they have devalued the product to the point that even the "no matter what I am renewing" crowd decide to walk away and CF feels that loss. But then all they have to do is offer a freebie like a pullover or Front of the Line each visit or even an exclusive ink pin freebie, and the folks return to renew in mass quantities....the psychological aspect of a freebie is a tool in the CF toolbox.... And folks will come regardless of what the freebie is because who wants to turn down a freebie, even it you don't need it LOL...

Maybe MEMI will want to expand and buy another park for music festivals (cross-threading LOL).

Oh boy that is gonna tick off the Save Coney crowd.... But for those that will jump on it without reading the article, by leaders, they do not mean elected officials. They mean leaders in the business community like the CEOs of Western&Southern, FC Cincinnati, and the Cincinnati Regional Chamber of Commerce that are part of a Task Force looking at ways to encourage and support economic development in the region. Basically they think this will create more money for the area than a pool does.

That doesn't sound like your typical response Who hacked your account? I was expecting you to reply with something like if you can't measure the return on the investment on all the ambassadors walking around, it is an easy cut to help the bottom line, especially in a season pass heavy park...

Welcome back - were you on a cruise with no internet or something? Been awhile since you posted.

Department of Justice (hint - if you opened the article it mentions it....)

An entertainment district would be a great idea and a way to generate more year round income. Would have some of the usual challenges of that property in overcoming the flooding, so it would be interesting to see a cost/benefit analysis on making that happen. Plus something year round would stand a better chance at significant enough improvements to the traffic nightmare that exists on concert nights. Toss in a paddle wagon too and you would frequent it a little more

I am by far not the only one on this thread that gets the property owners can do as they please, so why attack just me... If you don't like people presenting a different view point than yours, then that is your problem, not mine. I am not violating any TOS by providing a rational difference of opinion than your emotionally driven viewpoint. I have as much right to post a differing viewpoint just as you do against mine... Sometimes change happens - many companies or places with historical significance have closed over the years due to a variety of issues and this is no different. If you think I don't have a connection to Coney Island and its historical significance, you are sorely mistaken and my emotional connections may even be deeper than yours... But when I take the emotional aspect away and look at it logically, a property owner's bundle of rights is legally binding and my emotional connection to the place is not... It sucks, but my emotional connection or its historical significance wasn't paying their bills... If someone doesn't like a piece of property is changing its use and thinks they can keep it running as is, then buy it. I have seen groups of people buy something that was going to be demo'd and changed to something else and they bought it and kept it as is. And I have seen others that when they looked at the financials, determined it wasn't worth buying and didn't want to take it in the shorts financially just for their emotional connection... How would you like it if you tried to sell your property and the neighbors wouldn't let you? That isn't the way it works, emotional or historical significance or not. Some people also forget the place was slated to close in the early 70s and in fact a book was written about it saying Goodbye to Coney. The fact that Coney lasted this long after originally being scheduled to shut down when KI was built is just extra years, but outside of Moonlight and Sunlite, the memories disappeared when most of the stuff was sold off or destroyed then...

I don't think the DOJ cares as much about discretionary income mergers as they do something with grocery stores or other basic needs. This is just standard procedure. If for some reason the DOJ balks at it, all the merger team needs to do is tip their hand and say they plan to sell off X number of parks and all is good in the world. It will be no different than Kroger being allowed to carry on with a merger if they sold over 400 stores so as to keep a competitor.

23,000+ signing a petition in the Greater Cincinnati area of approximately 2.3 million people is statistically insignificant in the big picture. No company can make 100% of the people happy. Heck just look at this site and it appears most aren't happy with KI 23,000 passholders probably wouldn't generate enough revenue to have even stayed open. More people from outside Greater Cincinnati will attend concerts than those from outside the area attending Coney Island. A concert venue will have a bigger impact on increased revenue to the tax base, and a much bigger source of income to the local governments than a pool. Granted the size of this would never be able to bring current day Taylor Swift, but ask Cincinnati how much her concerts here brought to the coffers of city hall ($1M), not counting all the private entities that saw a pay day from restaurants to hotels ($92M)... To many people this sucks. But at the end of the day, if these people don't like it, take up a GoFundme and buy the land from MEMI. As property owners, they have a right to do what they want on their property regardless of what others think and that includes selling it. Further, as a citizen you have the right to not attend an event there and not give them your money. But others will and in bigger numbers than Coney saw. The fact of the matter is the concert venue will do well even with a boycott and bring in far more revenue than the outcry of 23,000 people, many of which probably haven't been to Coney in years and many that are not even part of the tax base demanding the city and Anderson Township intervene....

Keep in mind Knott's didn't really own it anymore and sold it to another company that included the rights to use the name. It was Smuckers that decided not to continue with the product. https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Food/jam-brand-jelly-aisle-anymore/story?id=106681493#:~:text=Smucker has discontinued the Knott's,on Nov. 4%2C 2023. So in light of the budget cut driven CF mode, people assume this was a CF or Knott's decision, but it wasn't.

That is correct - I think I saw it range from $5 to $25 in casual observation depending on how busy the park was. Doubt it was lower LOL, but there may have been some days it was higher.