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They will always claim a high financial impact, and of course the illegal POVs from the tennis stars LOL

Maybe they learned from yesterday lol

Is that why Steel Vengeance usually opens late But that is a different scenario - CP posts that it will open at 11am. KI made this change for budget cuts mid-season and these reduced hours do not show up on the ride write-up on the website.

How did the duck make it past the height checker. Clearly not tall enough

Unfortunately, it isn't rare now as this is part of their budget cuts for weekday operation....

I find it interesting that they are keeping a racing theme. I would have thought they would have tried to distance the ride from that. What if it ends up being a racing coaster and two trains race up the top hat (but obviously don't go over LOL).

Here is another example from FB of the inconsistent messaging from parks as it relates to passes and add-ons. It is this kind of frustation that lead to the trust issues people here and on social media are expressing regarding changing a pass program that has been around for many years: At Cedar Point today and I had read that our All Season drink passes would work at all Cedar Fair parks. There was no mention of being a platinum pass holder. Guest services says no, but both park websites say differently. Has anyone been able to use their Kings Island all season drink pass at Cedar Point?

Just ask Kennywood...that now closes on Tuesdays....Or Idlewild that closes on Wednesdays... Let's bring Chic-fil-a back and close CF parks on Sunday LOL

Well to be fair it was Mike that made the announcement that ride is gone

When you don't race The Racer on a random Tuesday lol

Nah they have been doing this a long time lol. Who remembers the time duration of meal plans changing during the off-season lol. Who remembers food options changing for the worse mid season until uproar lol.

Exactly. And the same chatter is going on in other park forums. Parking is ripe to make it an add on additional fee. Do three year olds need free parking lol. Or anyone under 16? Maybe they do not sell parking pass to those under 16? This would force parents to buy a pass for themselves and maybe actually spend time with their brats lol.

Like what they should have done for our giga LOL

One shall not see a parade before its time (unless of course you are in the park during a dry run lol)

And there are over 85 comments on the FB page now, most of them questions....

And yet the amount of questions here and on Facebook make you question the education some have got lol. I agree it seems simple but comprehension seems to be a lost art lol. Spend 30 minutes looking at questions and comments and there is a concern for our society lol. But even then there are still concerns about the terms and conditions changing.

What you are missing is benefits vary across parks for the same pass. One example - gold gets you ERT at KI but a gold pass doesn't at CP. They have a caveat to contact park for your eligible benefits. Look how well that worked out for Prestige. Are they going to make gold benefits consistent across the parks? Basically folks are saying based on their experiences using the existing pass system that had been around for many years that there is lots of confusion with the existing program, so this will have as much or more. Based on what was seen so far, a lot of questions haven't been addressed and the concern is they will make them up as they go long after people bought passes. Just like they did Prestige. So what if they say gold is just like it is now and someone from KI with gold and Passport go to CP. Will they add Passport to ERT or will they leave that to Prestige to encourage sales of those? We don't have those answers. With change comes confusion and maybe it will simplify things down the road, but next year will be a hot mess. Wait until we see the questions on FB lol. They are comical and stupid now, so this will just add to it lol. If they wanted to simplify things then just have one pass and everything else is an add on. But someone will find exception to that too lol.

But next year Gold will get you parking at Cedar Point if you have the passport pass...or would the gold still scan at the toll regardless of the passport? Not only will it be complicated for the guest, but we have seen the nightmare issues some have had with the pass now - works all season and then one day not at all. There will be lots of visits to guest services. What we will see short-term is that CF will sneak quite a few sales of Prestige next year for people that don't know better and assume that is now the platinum. And then many of them will be ticked off they were scammed and not renew the following year. It will be interesting. Many people I know have said they are not getting passes next year, and I believe them. Let's see how many do the same.

16 years at one employer is longer than some of the members here have been alive LOL.

They have been doing it with drinks for years with zero enforcement and consequences - either old cups and come thru exit (the exit only and enter front for drinks signage is totally being ignored) or get water cup and fill with soda. This is just the next progression. Who needs season pass add-ons. A whole host of people simply steal and line jump. Sadly people defend these actions on social media - "the syrup is pennies per thousand gallons" "the food is marked up anyway", etc. That isn't the point. Stealing is stealing. And they wonder why revenue is down...

I am sure the communication will be comparable to the Prestige Pass rollout . Send a presser to the media and then CP blogs changing the terms and conditions after said purchase lol.

But what about everyone that currently has a platinum - they will have to get either gold or Prestige for next year. At least for next year, this change will potentially result in more passes being issued. If they were interested in not having to issue new cards frequently they would simply have one pass and everything else is add-ons. That way if someone was gold one year and went to prestige the next and back to gold the following, it would all be same pass instead of 3 in this scenario (new one each year for changing pass type). And with the issues we have seen from some of those that visit other parks, it is apparent their system is a pieced together held by band-aids solution that someone with a platinum pass and add-one has issues using said pass at other parks. Heck I have friends that used their pass and add-ons most of the season and then one day their meal plan is invalid and they paid in full and were not on payment plan. Others that have gone to other parks with platinum and was denied entry until a phone call was made to KI guest services to confirm they had a pass. Sadly I see this change completely overwhelming their existing system and cause more troubles. Unless they are changing software lol (but unlikely).

Knowing that a large amount of the general population does not take the time to read LOL (look at the daily posts to the passholder FB page asking "can we bring in water bottles", "are there fireworks tonight", "what are the park hours today", "can we bring in outside food", "can we take towels into Soak City", "I am confused I have a gold pass and want to add a meal plan, but there are 3 to choose from", etc.) this will potentially create a problem. How many are going to see Platinum is gone and simply purchase a Prestige instead when all they needed to do was buy gold and the passport? Thus potentially making the preferred lot full and bottlenecks in FL queues? How many are going to think the park is pushing Prestige and has heard about the horrible bait and switch so they don't buy a pass? How many are going to purchase a Prestige thinking that is the new platinum and then travel to another park and not be able to get in? How many liked the new summer pass they offered and now it is gone? Why didn't they simply have gold and platinum and make Prestige an add-on? Seems like that would have caused the least amount of confusion. Once you devalue the Prestige even more (is that even possible), then the incentive to purchase is gone. I think that is why the Season Long Fast Lane hasn't sold out. Maybe long term this will simplify the pass process moving forward and have consistent pass offerings across the chain, but it will certainly introduce growing pains and confusion for next year. But on the surface, it appears the passes will be cheaper than this year, so will meal plan and add-ons increase, or is their model for next year to sell passes cheaper and make it up on quantity?

The title is inaccurate. It should be Platinum Pass

They listened to all the complaints of Prestige holders saying they will downgrade to Platinum in 2024 so they eliminated platinum lol