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^Based on the direction the VIP lounge has been going here and CP and Carowinds, I do not see bottled beverages next year in the VIP lounge. Worse case is simply infused water and best case is they install a soda fountain machine.

^It takes more money to buy fresh fruit and cut it up and stick it in the infuse water coolers But like seriously, lets continue to oversell a limited seating lounge and preferred parking location LOL.

Terror Town is worth consideration as well, although some may say that is too far away.

Exactly! That is what I was alluding to in my statement. Most have no idea how many hours are put in. Full-time work is considered 2,080 hours and part-time techs in the industry approach or exceed that. I have friends that have left the industry to take a full-time job and work less hours than they did part-time at KI.... Now one could argue that means the park needs to hire more (and valid but some of this is short term type work that is hard to hire for), but it also shows how much effort goes into getting the park ready for these events!

I think people would be surprised how many hours a tech works in a year...

And it isn't closed 7 days per week between now and Haunt lol. Private parties and one public day tossed in.

Well they did have one train stuck on the MCBR for most of the day, so obviously something that they need to address and maybe didn't have the part available.....

And yet the Carowinds VIP site says you get bottled beverages... It will be interesting to see what Cedar Fair does with this apparent bait and switch. Many here may recall after season long meal plans were purchased for the 2nd year, they changed the meal window to two specific time windows and due to outcry changed it to the current 4 hour window, an increase from the 2 hour window the previous year. We have also seen outcry change when they tried to change offerings at Panda and a few other places mid-season and reverted back to what it was when the season started. On one hand, the purchasers of the Prestige are probably some of the higher per cap spenders, yet the numbers of Prestige passes would be much less than the number of season meal plans, so the outcry will not be as large in numbers as the meal plans, so if they continue devaluing this experience they are now ticking off some of the folks that contribute the most to per cap numbers. Based on what is happening, I think they oversold the Prestige passes and are downgrading the offerings to try not to lose their shirt. Bottled beverages for less than say 100 prestige passholders is a lot easy to manage than hundreds or thousands of passholders. I know people that have purchased the Prestige in part due to the bottled beverage options (one has a kid allergic to the dye in drinks and cannot get water from the soda fountain machines due to the cross contamination since it is always coupled with Hi-C or lemonade) and removing that after the sale sucks for them. They were using it as a "drink plan" for their kid instead of buying bottled water. Now come 2023 and people cannot get into the VIP or preferred parking and we may see this program be a one hit wonder LOL. It will be interesting to see how they deal with not ticking off these higher paying guests... It is evident though from this site and social media that many feel the honeymoon is over on this experience already. I think if CF came out and said "my bad" and explained it wasn't ready for primetime and they feel they cannot provide the experience they were looking to provide and offered refunds for the difference between the pass the person would have bought and Prestige, it would be better received than if the experience is horrific next year. I think many would accept that given they have already experienced the benefits of front of the line and snacks and drinks that they would be ok with it. Sure some would be ticked, but they can never please everyone. It wouldn't surprise me if they evaluate refunds versus the costs to provide a better experience during the off-season.

Wow. Looks like restraints popped open when it slammed into the ground. Hopefully nobody was seriously injured. https://breaking911.com/breaking-video-amusement-park-ride-in-india-breaks-crashes-down-violently/

A county fair in Ohio said they could top that. https://www.wlwt.com/article/at-least-10-arrested-after-fights-shots-at-ohio-fair/41075829

As long as it doesn't end up in the defunct rides graveyard....

Is this a clue - the dragster car was removed this week?

I think a lot are starting to feel that way. I think if folks don't like the downgrading experience, one needs to make a mention about it to Guest Services. Only way bottled water comes back is if there are enough complaints. And they should change the marketing picture from bottled water to the tiny Kinzel cup for the warm infused water Maybe we will see a Don't Waste Your Money segment on Channel 9 LOL

So when the Prestige pass started selling, folks were getting into the VIP and getting to enjoy a variety of soft drinks (Coke, Diet Coke, Sprite, Diet Sprite), Powerade and bottled water that were in the "fridge" as well as a large cooler on wheels full of ice and bottles and cans in there getting ice cold, along with a variety of Frito Lay brand bagged snacks. Fast forward to last weekend/today and Sprite, Diet Sprite and bottled water are gone, along with the larger cooler on wheels full of ice. Now you get warm infused water provided in cups that have already shrunk in size from a decent size cup to the "Kinzel" cup lol and warm Coke, Diet Coke and Powerade as the "fridge" can't keep up, along with Boulder Canyon chips that replaced the Frito Lay offerings. I agree with you that these folks will see a lot of "subject to change" happenings. Your satire 2024 above may not be far off LOL.

And the snacks and drink offerings are being reduced weekly in type and variety... They need to add some self serve kiosks for the front of the line pass because nobody wants to stand in guest services line to get front of the line pass on busy days.

Exactly! What exactly is the point of spending $170 more for a Prestige pass if you can't get access to the VIP lounge or preferred parking? That and the front of the line pass are the primary drivers why someone would purchase this pass. I don't think anyone bought it solely for the 15% discount on food and merch LOL.

I guess the main question or assumption made relates to the “+Prestige + Passholder benefits may vary by park. Contact the park you are planning to visit for any questions regarding applicable benefits.” Why say that if the only benefit is what was already clearly defined 15% off merch and food at other Cedar Fair parks. I thought the original FAQ said you got access to the CP Millennium Lounge (although I didn't screen shot that so maybe someone else did or someone can find it somewhere). Now the FAQ is clear, yet they still keep the asterisk to check the park you are going to for the benefits you may receive????? What is the difference between Prestige and Prestige+? Prestige receives exclusive benefits at the home park for which the pass is eligible. Prestige+, receives exclusive benefits at the home park the pass was purchased through, plus Unlimited Visits to ALL Cedar Fair Parks with a 15 % Food and Merchandise Discount at Other Cedar Fair Parks. All other Prestige benefits are non-transferable to other Cedar Fair parks. But the official terms and conditions still reference to contact a park you are visiting to determine what Prestige Plus benefits you are entitled to. Again, why say that if the only transferable benefit is the 15% discount... Cedar Fair Prestige Plus Pass benefits may vary by the park (i.e. admissions, parking, discounts, etc.). Prestige Plus Pass holder must have a current year, valid Prestige Plus Pass to receive admission and other benefits. If you are traveling to a Cedar Fair park (other than the one you purchased your pass), please contact that park you will be visiting before arrival to ensure you are aware of Prestige Plus Pass benefits and to ask any questions on program details. Clearly there is still a lot of confusion and misunderstanding and inconsistent wording.

The ever changing terms of conditions....the original terms said it was part of it and many people have used it with a KI Prestige pass....first front of the line and lounge was part of Prestige Plus, then they took away the front of the line, and now apparently lounges at the parks that have it. Now it appears the only thing plus gets you at another park is the extra discount of food and merch... Looking more and more like this should have simply been a park specific season pass add-on as that would have eliminated all the confusing and changing terms...

I thought this was announced last year, but that was a different promotion LOL

The biggest problem is they were playing on makeshift stages and as such never got a crowd, especially River City stuck by Congo Falls. Usually they were playing for nobody and usually not more than 10 people around the stage.

Re-read what you quoted....hint he did not say coaster....

^we are waiting for the concept drawings of the skyline chili coaster....

Episode 10 is on the airwaves.

One shouldn't go to a scary event if they don't want to be scared LOL...plus it ruins it for those around them that want to be scared.

Or enter a maze with a stroller! It is always more than one family complaining at guest services that there single digit aged kid was too scared.