BeeastFarmer

Please, do not send that junk to Kentucky Kingdom. Conversely... Kentucky Kingdom, please do not take this junk. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

Glad Vortex is safe (for now). Firehawk was a one and done for me. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

It's no secret that the fair board has land available for park expansion...most notably the flat spot between the water park and the hotels, near where the Starflyer is. I think the height limit is around 200 feet here. Also, between there and Storm Chaser, there is plenty of land, and as we've been told, as businesses leases expire, the fair board is leaving open for park expansion. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

He knows exactly what he is doing. And I'd conjecture that at this point he knows what he needs to know about the project. (IIRC, in an interview here on KIC, he doesn't know details until the time is right so he can maintain plausible deniability.) Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

Ohhhhhh, now it all makes sense! To raise cash, CF is selling off KI (restinpiecesKI) to Ed Hart et al. Firehawk IS moving to KK. Ed will begin his chain of Kings/Kingdom parks. How could I have been so blind? Note: this is sarcasm. @Ben43065, good eye on the CF logo. I was wondering if there was a clue in it myself.

I know, @VortexBFForever. Just giving you a bit of grief--some people get so wrapped up in speculation that they will take any little thing as a clue.

^ @VortexBFForever, you speak of Firehawk in past tense. #Firehawkremovalconfirmed

Man, you've been on quite the critical roll lately! Maybe we need to switch your personal concierge from Dennis Spiegel to Dick Kinzel!

You mean spending money wisely, underpromising and over delivering? Or reopening a park that was abandoned for several years and had a bad reputation? Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

If you watch and listen to the video the park put out today, you might be able to hear a sound that a bird (maybe a hawk?) would make. Most noticeable around the .11 mark.

My two cents: In my experience, the service aspect was much better this year on my visits. Rarely longer than a 5 minute wait. Food quality has improved. Quantity is still enough for two people. (And I am a big guy; i rarely finish my meals.) Of course, my experience is based on the days I visit the park. I usually go on slow days. Kentucky Kingdom has the quality, quantity and speed of service. It's becoming a benchmark for me--as well as Knoebels.

The next video teaser has been released on KK's YouTube channel. Whatever its going to be its called "Kentucky Flyer." Anybody have any guesses? Please...please,,,,please...not Firehawk relocated to the park!

Interesting sight on the Banshee webcam. They must have a fog machine positioned high up at Wolfpack. Fog is coming from the top of the building on the SW side and drifting towards The Bat. Or it's on fire. LOL

^Can you blame them, though? No need to reinvent the wheel. Best practices are best practices. And the food service is miles ahead of the large competitor in Mason.

I was going to post this link last week, but I couldn't post on KIC for some reason. Will be interesting to see what they have planned, but I don't like that they used #whatsinthewind.

All things considered, I'll throw this out there: I brought my elderly parents to KI for the first time since 2011. The bring a friend tickets played a roll in this because they can't do many rides (they did the Eiffel Tower, Boo Blasters and the train.) I also brought, on a different day, a friend from first grade. She had not been since 2009. She can ride everything and we had a blast. Besides the money they spent in the park (meals, ice cream and Sweet Shoppe items), both my parents and my high school friend plan to visit again next year. My parents are looking forward to KMAA and my friend just might be a budding enthusiast after a terrific experience. FTR: my parents and friend are not low brow surly folks. While the gate giving surely did attract these types, I believe it did attract some quality folks too.

I'm ok with being a model behind on phones. So, I have a Pixel XL. Maybe I'll get the XL2 down the road. I use Total Wireless as my carrier (runs on Verizon towers). Great phone on great service for $35/month and I can go to another carrier at will if and when I want to. Much better than when I was paying $80/month on a contract.

@SonofBaconator...of course it will hurt it in some way. If one KI passholder decides not to renew because s/he can just go to KK that is lost revenue.

"Watch out boy, she'll chew you up, she's a maneater."--Hall and Oates. Daughter of Beast confirmed. LOL

Wow, that is surprising. Not being in that line of work, my line of thought was this: The park and corporate decide what they want to install and an area. They have a firm or firms who they work with on projects and they submit proposals. As part of the process, feasibility studies are done and different concepts are designed and in the end, a final decision is made. From there, permits are applied for (which do not require renderings). I thought they would see the big picture and work backward with details for permits and the trades. I guess KI and Rob Decker can see the vision without a visual.

I'm no architect, but I'd imagine the firm they contract with would have some concept art as part of the project, included in the cost. And they did have a concept for Coney BBQ, it's basically Island Smokehouse with theming elements. (Just like the new eatery at WOF is a clone.) KMAA be much more intricate. I do have friends who have asked about it (not in the enthusiast realm) and when I tried to describe it without a visual they couldn't get it. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

Sure it's a minor investment, but it is something that many have wanted. They did use video of other car rides, but at a very minimum I would have expected a rendering that showed concept art. They did that for Coney BBQ and this is more substantial than that. For something that many KI fans want (both GP and enthusiasts) it seemed a little lackluster to me. I couldn't be at the park for the announcement, but I do think it was a great thing for Mr. Kootnz drove the vehicle. But that doesn't translate well for people who can't be there.

I agree, thank you @IndyGuy4KI for the video. I am surprised they did not have at least some renderings or video renderings available at the announcement.

Maybe the park could consider changing some of the turf out to flowers like Kings Dominion does. But I will say, the park looks fantastic this year. The trimmed trees, the flower pots on the lighting footers, Tower Gardens...everything looks wonderful.

You get it all. Dennis Spiegel as your personal concierge and now your own TP.