Imperial79 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Dang. I could tell in the (I can't believe we we're ready last year) interview they had, that that's what he was hinting at for this year. Turns out it was true. I wonder are they going to be ready next year? I doubt it from the way it's going. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricsun Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I saw that Raising Canes in West Chester when I was down that way earlier this week. I didn't realize they weren't open yet. These boards are the only place I had ever heard of the restaurant, but from what I've heard I'm interested in trying them out. I personally didn't like In-N-Out. I am more interested in fries than burgers, and their fries didn't impress me. To hijack this thread more, how are the fries at Raising Canes? They are good crispy small crinkle cut fries. And there's Texas Toast, and coleslaw, and Cane's sauce...ahhh. Sorry, I have a bit of an emotional connection to Raising Cane's. I relate to it as comfort food for really crazy stressful days. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marth555 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I think by preview weekends they mean the park isnt open for daily operations yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr0y Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Chick-Fil-A > Raising Cane's 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 What would it take to make Kentucky Kingdom work? The competition is fierce. I lived in Kentucky until 1996 and never went before I moved. I went once when I moved back here (I moved back in '07, went to KK in 2009) and was not impressed. I chalked that up to SIX. I have to admit that I do not care for SIX after having this one experience, so I was hoping that the "new" KK would be an improvement. I know it's very complicated in that it lies on the fair board's property. Didn't SIX own about 20 acres? What happened to this real estate? I really want this park to work. KI will always have my business, but it would be nice to have a park to just drive to for the day, or stay in the Ville and do both it and HW. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfanatic83 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Preview weekends? When did that become a thing? It's like they are making everything up as they go.Oh, wait... 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 For those who don't follow social media, KK's posts are vacant of mentions towards any 'preview' weekend(s). 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollerNut Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Carowinds calls March through Memorial Day "Preseason" with it's employees..... Some things in the park granted they are smaller things aren't always ready for Opening Weekend. I will note that our Skytower is still not open. Carolina Skytower has been non operational for 10 months since June 2014. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APE Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Chick-Fil-A > Raising Cane's I haven't had Chick-Fil-A in five years and I'll probably never have it again. So I very much disagree with this. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 I'm waiting until early mid summer to go to KK. I have hope in the place, and it still has those kick start attractions. It has somewhat of a great amt of attractions and it is definitely a day trip for me. KK has a lot of credits that I need and many that I have been craving to get on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Carowinds calls March through Memorial Day "Preseason" with it's employees..... Some things in the park granted they are smaller things aren't always ready for Opening Weekend. I will note that our Skytower is still not open. Carolina Skytower has been non operational for 10 months since June 2014. Similarly, SR&R missed most of last year. A few attractions down for unforeseen reasons is one thing and is to be expected. To have pretty much all of your new attractions not even be assembled yet and another 5 or 6 not operational... That's a bigger problem. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Cash flow. Cash flow. Cash flow. And yet they sent $140+ away from their gate Saturday due to someone's incredible, egotistical pride. Perhaps I should show up at his little talk and coffee with Louisville's business leaders. I might even see Bruce Lunsford and Ed Glasscock. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RailRider Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Where is our favorite minion to respond to this thread or the Trip Report thread and tell us all how silly and ignorant we are. Then again successful parks typically don't turn away paying customers who are willing to pay full price at the gate when they are in desperate need of cash flow and out of state visitors. But some might say I'm ignorant for using the words successful in a thread discussing Kentucky Kingdom. The place is a joke, will continue to be a joke, and will close its doors once again in the not to distant future. Harts ego will continue to grow over the fact that out of the goodness of his heart he took taxpayers money and tried to reopen the Kingdom, but ultimately the people let him down. We must not consider the facts that Hart has no real stake in the success of the park only profit to gain and the taxpayers have everything to loose. I hope the residents of the Commonwealth are smart enough to see this and vote out those responsible for allowing this deal to ever happen. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMAJrKY Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Cash flow. Cash flow. Cash flow. And yet they sent $140+ away from their gate Saturday due to someone's incredible, egotistical pride. Perhaps I should show up at his little talk and coffee with Louisville's business leaders. I might even see Bruce Lunsford and Ed Glasscock. I've been following this and I just want to clarify. So he (or someone else at KK) KNEW you were coming and/or knew you were there and intentionally turned you away?? Why?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTD-120-420 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 And trained all of the ticket sales people to know who you are and tell them not to let you in? They can't handle the most simple of things, but I'm to believe they can pull this off? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 ALL two of the ticket sales people. And a supervisor who quickly showed up. Then when I went to Guest Relations, Security magically appears. Even a blind pig gets a few truffles, if not guest dollars. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WMAJrKY Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 ALL two of the ticket sales people. And a supervisor who quickly showed up. Then when I went to Guest Relations, Security magically appears. Even a blind pig gets a few truffles, if not guest dollars. I'm not doubting it at all. Was just curious as to why that might happen. In poor taste regardless. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 ALL two of the ticket sales people. And a supervisor who quickly showed up. Then when I went to Guest Relations, Security magically appears. Even a blind pig gets a few truffles, if not guest dollars. What did security say? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsus Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Presumably something about the figurative door being right over there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldiesmann Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Having read Terp's posts here over the past 10 years (yes, I've been here that long), the story is believable to me. He's got many many friends in the amusement industry (and apparently at least one enemy as well). Why anyone would basically throw out a paying guest to avoid a negative review is beyond me, but Hart has a track record of making poor decisions. Sent from my LG G3 using Tapatalk 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 What did security say? I had asked for a parking refund, at the least. "Sir, we have nothing to do with the parking lot. If you have been here less than 30 minutes, the toll booth will give you a refund. Either way, you are leaving." The main gate parking was 'interesting.' "You'll have to go to Gate 4, Lane 4 to get a refund. Too bad you won't get there in time." Honest. Sad. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdawg1998 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Question: To a normal family visiting Kentucky Kingdom, just for a fun day at the park, is it actually that bad? Or does the hate for KK stem from Hart? Because I feel like people who know nothing about the history of the place would still enjoy it...despite it being pretty expensive. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delirium13 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Wow. That's just pathetic to put it lightly. If all of this truly was to avoid a bad review, then that failed miserably. Most bad experiences in the park that may have been posted here pale in comparison to this. I'm guessing it was mainly done out of spite. The hostility that this park shows towards anyone who would dare criticize (no matter how constructive) their pathetic business practices continues to amaze me. Any curiosity that may have drove me to visit the park is gone. I don't have any interest in spending my money at a place that operates like the Kingdom does. Especially when that money could be better spent at far better and more FUN parks. Good luck Kentucky Kingdom, you'll be needing it! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Its almost like Kentucky Kingdom knows they aren't doing well or something. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkroz Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Question: To a normal family visiting Kentucky Kingdom, just for a fun day at the park, is it actually that bad? Or does the hate for KK stem from Hart? Because I feel like people who know nothing about the history of the place would still enjoy it...despite it being pretty expensive. I'm sure that the average family would have a fine day at the amusement park. If you family includes someone with mobility impairments? An LGBT friend or loved one? A breastfeeding mother? Then you're probably bound to think differently after the events of last season. Sure, most of the "drama" that we're touching on is probably "behind the scenes." But it all matters... Every guest who pays full price to get in only to find it's a retconned "preview weekend" with all the new rides missing will remember. Those who want to pay their way in but aren't allowed will remember. They'll remember the way they were treated, too. Guests are told two or more different prices, and some are doubtlessly unclear on which they're expected to pay at a Kroger versus online versus at the gate, when those offers expire, etc., and they'll remember that. Every guest who saw Hart's henchman appear on a local newscast with a printed laminate screen capture of a website and a poorly-prepared speech about new rides will remember. Some guests will visit the website, find it woefully dated in its design and navigation, and decide the park isn't worth their drive from Ohio because the place markets itself as if it were a simple carnival. And those guests are gone. In a time where first impressions can make or break the park, they've stumbled over and over and over and - curiously - most of their foibles are in the same area: public relations. If they would've noticed that early on and fixed it, we might not have to wonder about the future of the park. Instead, the problems continue. And that's to say nothing of the politics, taxes, and backstage problems. Glad that that region has a park back? Of course. I just wish we were seeing the park do better to ensure it stays that way. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 About an hour away is a new B&M. It opened on time. Without being backed by the taxpayers of Indiana. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homestar92 Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 And families who had visited the park in its past life may not find it particularly enjoyable even without knowing the behind-the-scenes stuff. In my visits, I have heard many comments along the lines of, "I miss Chang.", "Greezed Lightnin' was better than Lightning Run.", " Why isn't Twisted Twins open?" I think the locals are getting to a point where the rose-colored glasses of having their park back are coming off and they're starting to realize that while it may be "back", it isn't really the same park it used to be. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 But Hart intends to keep it viable, unlike Six Flags. He has many times noted that after 2016, he intends to spend $1.5 to $2.0 million a year in cap ex. There's an ambitious plan. One I'm quite sure no one else ever thought of. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Interestingly, I just got off the phone with my bank. There were apparently ZERO attempted transactions from Kentucky Kingdom. No declines. No approvals. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsus Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Status: conspiracy confirmed? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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