calakapepe Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Dragster manages to push the envelope not in its layout but in its height, speed, and acceleration being unmet anywhere else but New Jersey. That said, people do still complain about its short ride time despite its incredible experience. Everyone wants different things, no ride can have it all no matter how hard you try, even with all the money in the world. For example, I am pleased with what CP is getting, however I do not dismiss some of the criticisms about the typical layout. It would've been cool to see some new things tried out. What? Idk, when you consider the size of the trains.. I do not know. So I am still happy. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gplez90 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 So track has been on site for weeks now and they are just today digging for the first footing? Does this strike anyone else as strange? The first footers for Gatekeeper weren't poured for quite some time. Keep in mind that they're building the ride in an area that has already been cleared and leveled to the need of the ride. All they have to do is clear that pumpkin patch and they're ready to go. Cedar Point and company know exactly what they're doing. UPDATE: After looking at the live webcam, it appears that they've done quite a bit of work near the area where the station is going to be. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purdude86 Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 Dragster manages to push the envelope not in its layout but in its height, speed, and acceleration being unmet anywhere else but New Jersey. That said, people do still complain about its short ride time despite its incredible experience. Everyone wants different things, no ride can have it all no matter how hard you try, even with all the money in the world. For example, I am pleased with what CP is getting, however I do not dismiss some of the criticisms about the typical layout. It would've been cool to see some new things tried out. What? Idk, when you consider the size of the trains.. I do not know. So I am still happy. Just want to clarify, I'm not saying Dragster is a bad ride or anything, just saying that if you are judging a ride solely on its length and layout it's not really fair. The experience of the ride itself overall is what determines its quailty. I haven't gotten to ride Dragster myself yet though so can't fully judge how good it is, both times i've been since it opened the ride has been shut down due to issues with the ride. But I know it gets good reviews. I can see some people's underwhelming interest in a dive coaster as I have always thought that they look quite short as well, but they look very fun at the same time. And with the heigt of this one it will be like having a Drop Tower type experience with a short coaster ride after that still looks fun, if quick. My one qualm I have with it is I wish they dug a tunnel down and had it go underground on the drop to swoop back out in the immelman, think that would give it an even better experience as you jsut see the ground coming at you instead of jsut the track ahead. Perhaps even have the pathway closer to the drop and have it actually dive under the path and come up ont he other side to then swoop back around to the mcbr as it does. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calakapepe Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 I agree, I was hoping a bridge would go over the bottom of the drop like Griffon and there'd be a sensible access to the ride (closer to a straight line). Instead of you're at Rougarou.. you have to come go around the inversions, and then make a straight 90° turn. Not really a big quarrel.. but it's just a weird thing to do. Kinda in the same way that there's no longer a quick way to the other side of what used to be Swan Lake at Kings Island. You go around the restaurant and the first drop, or you go alll the waayy around the International Showplace and several concessions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merthecat Posted September 10, 2015 Share Posted September 10, 2015 It looks like the same person designed Valravn's webpage as the one who designed Carolina Harbor's. I like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendrick Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 Now that I think about it why did Rougarou not receive these new restraints? I had heard (but I don't remember where), that the trains with this new restraint are a bit wider, which was too much for the track layout. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ethancoaster Posted September 11, 2015 Share Posted September 11, 2015 It'd be nice if they could make the queue entrance similar to Dragon Challenge at IOA. I know this is Cedar Fair (and more specifically, Cedar Point), but I feel they really missed the mark on theming. Especially with the Valravn theme. So much wasted potential. As for the ride itself, I'm expecting to love it considering how much I loved Griffon. I have it ranked #8 (my count is barely over 50 though) and it's ranked a spot above Dragster. So it's likely to land in my top four at the Point. I still think the new restraints are a bit unnecessary but I think Cedar Fair chose them just to say, "look, we innovated the dive coaster concept by adding vests!". Hopefully the whole train uses the row 4 big boy seats on Gatekeeper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomTheater Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 http://www.wtvy.com/news/headlines/Record-Breaking-Roller-Coaster-Planned-for-Ohio-Theme-Park-in-2016-326774431.html This news station rejects Valravn's video and substitutes a different coaster. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuskin Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 wow .... trying not to make this a one word post. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph88 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Yahoo also had an article that kept calling it "Valravn Birdseye".... *sigh* They thought the coaster's name was Valravn Birdseye because of a video title from youtube. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calakapepe Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Couldn't even check Cedar Point's page to see a video of Cedar Point'S coaster? Do they assume Any new ride animation for 2016 is the only one? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magenta Lizard Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Or maybe the park is cross-promoting with frozen foods now. But, yeah, probably just incompetent reporting. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamonbackandbeastlover Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 Not to mention the video clearly says Six Flags on it. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyano Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 GP be like.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuskin Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Well they removed the page.....finally. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevKenny Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 They should have named this Demon Drop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragsterguy21 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Dragster and Raptor are finally getting some love as well 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calakapepe Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 Some paint, you mean? Long needed 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gplez90 Posted October 6, 2015 Share Posted October 6, 2015 I vaguely recall the paint job for the two rides being discussed shortly following the Valravn announcement. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Interesting time to watch the Cedar Point Live Video cam, as Valravn pieces are lifted into place and Raptor is being power-washed to remove paint and residue. Watch live Here. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 @TonyClarkCP on Twitter: "History, part 2: the first piece of #Valravn track was just put into place! #CP2016" Photo : Tony Clark via Twitter 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBEASTunchained Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Cedar Point on Facebook: "Standing at 223 ft. tall, #Valravn dramatically changes the shape of the Cedar Point skyline." Photo : Cedar Point via Facebook Photo : Cedar Point via Facebook 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 That skyline always brings a smile to my face when I'm driving up the peninsula. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBEW_Sparky Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 My years as a Construction Journeyman Wireman have made it so the very first thing that caught my eye was that the lift angle is the same on Valravn as it is on Millennium Force. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coasterfanatic83 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Raptor's new paint looks very nice also. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I'm sure if I will make it up to the Point this year or not since I'm getting married in 2016 but Im super excited about this addition. Its always great to see a park grow. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Interpreter Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Congratulations. Perhaps the honeymoon? 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricsun Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Or the bachelor party? One of my best friend's is getting married in August and she wants to repeat our CP trip from a few years ago. She said that we should just make it her "bachelorette" party. Works for me! I'll happily add that to my list of MoH duties. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Flight Back Deck Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I have had the idea of doing my Stag Party at Cedar Point, but unsure if that'll be the final location. I need to find someone to marry first before I start thinking of that though 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldiesmann Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Valravn has been officially topped off now... https://twitter.com/TonyClarkCP/status/679407346326597632 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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