upstop Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 What pictures? Can’t view anything and I don’t have Facebook. Quote
BeeastFarmer Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 What pictures? Can’t view anything and I don’t have Facebook. It's a couple of pictures of a giant metal hand, tearing up Firehawks track...with maniacal laughing. Similar to this screenshot....Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk 5 2 Quote
upstop Posted January 25, 2019 Posted January 25, 2019 I am the Centurion. You have come too far, you have seen too much. The Centurion lives!!! All hail the Centurion!!! 2 Quote
JubJester Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 On 1/24/2019 at 7:02 PM, fryoj said: They don't just up and change roller coaster locations that quickly. When B&M comes in, the park shows them the area they want the coaster and the basics of what they want and B&M custom builds the ride for the site. Thats oversimplifying it, but to change the location, it would pretty much mean starting over with the designs and engineering. That's not something you do late in the process. If it's going on the Firehawk plot, it was probably always going on the Firehawk plot. I've heard several park officials said it was a mid summer decision. Maybe they accidently said that, or just wanted it to appear that way. Quote
Maverick44 Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 Maybe this was a pure removal based on maintenance issues?? Maybe operation Giga is in another part of the park? 1 Quote
fryoj Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 54 minutes ago, JubJester said: I've heard several park officials said it was a mid summer decision. Maybe they accidently said that, or just wanted it to appear that way. If that's true, then I'd wager that that footprint of the new coaster won't interact with the Firehawk footprint. Maybe the queue, lockers, or other buildings will. But these plans were definitely in place prior to mid summer. 5 Quote
Maverick44 Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 Yeah all about that 5 year plan! yeah the coaster may still go over there but wasn't going to use the FH space and they said " Man this coaster is a nightmare. Lets scrap that pile of junk" haha That's how the meeting would go if I was in charge lol 1 Quote
ohiocoasterfan Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 This lends credence to my theory that the B&M project was originally scheduled for completion in 2021 and the demise of Firehawk would have occurred a year later. Due to low attendance figures and no significant bump and slumping stock, management moved the project up a year sometime in late Spring early Summer.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote
Maverick44 Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 I am not sure if CF works like that. I think they set plans and stick to the years they set. KI has a steady attendance. It doesn't rise a bunch but also doesn't sink. IMO there is no reason to move an attraction up due to that. My thoughts were on 2021 as well. 2 Quote
fryoj Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 Hey, B&M, this is Bill at King's Island. You know that coaster we've been having you design for the last couple of years and we aren't supposed to open until 2 and a half years from now? I know you schedule these things years out and build these things for parks all over the world, but just go ahead and bring that bad boy in a year early. Hello? Hello? I think he hung up on me. 4 2 Quote
Maverick44 Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 Yeah I think when a contract is signed there is no changing that. 1 Quote
Bansheeback Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 ~$30 million projects are not able to be switched around at all, let alone with that short of notice. These things need to be planned meticulously. A company like B&M has so many things going on at once that it’d be impossible to move them all around. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 6 Quote
Maverick44 Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 Throwing my hat in the bring to bring a Strata-Coaster to KI!!! haha Ok all joking aside STICK TO THE 5 YEAR PLAN!!!! haha 1 Quote
SonofBaconator Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 I agree with @Bansheeback. Maybe the plan was to remove Firehawk all along and replace it with a B&M giga, or maybe what @fryoj said where the proposed giga wouldn't even touch the Firehawk footprint. Either way, like I said before, I think Firehawk has been on the chopping block for a while and they were just looking for a good time to remove the ride. I think working with Vekoma is a nightmare for Cedar Fair because of the reliability issues and the ability to get spare parts. 4 Quote
Maverick44 Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 ^ That's why you do not see any new Vekoma's hardly ever in the states. I think only Disney works with them anymore. I am sure Firehawk was planned to get removed for sure. Its always down and parts we hard to get ahold of. I think Dragonflier is the only recent one being built out side of Disney. Even Dollywood surprised me by using them. 1 Quote
silver2005 Posted January 26, 2019 Posted January 26, 2019 Also, CF has just tore down a few other Vekoma's rather than relocate or sell them, including Knott's Boomerang and Stinger at Dorney, both of which are normally really good for relocating. 2 Quote
QuantumMechanicsInMotion Posted January 27, 2019 Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) According to rollercoaster_expedition on Instagram, the deconstruction of the Firehawk roller coaster is near complete with the steel vertical loop being the only element of the coaster still standing and slated for demolition. Enjoy folks! Edited January 27, 2019 by QuantumMechanicsInMotion Photography 2 1 Quote
Maverick44 Posted January 28, 2019 Posted January 28, 2019 R.I.P Firehawk! I wonder if the loop comes down today. 2 Quote
AZ Kinda Guy Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 23 hours ago, Maverick44 said: R.I.P Firehawk! I wonder if the loop comes down today. It came down several days ago. 1 Quote
Maverick44 Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 I guess the posts above were just delayed. 2 Quote
JubJester Posted January 29, 2019 Posted January 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Maverick44 said: I guess the posts above were just delayed. It could and it could not be. There hasn't been photos released by the park or the demo company showing it is gone. 3 Quote
QuantumMechanicsInMotion Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 (edited) https://www.visitkingsisland.com/blog/2019/january/readers’-mailbag-why-was-the-last-dip-on-the-racer-removed On the new Kings Island Readers' Mailbag, Gary S., from Baltimore, OH inquired about Firehawk, asking...quote, "What's lurking in the woods around where Firehawk stood?" The Park responded by saying, quote..."Deer. They’ll browse and graze throughout the night, occasionally heading back to bedding spots for a few hours around midnight where they will remain for a couple hours before heading back out into open areas again in the early morning hours. Deer are fascinating creatures." Hmm, what a riveting response by park officials. The word "they" is reminiscent of Cedar Point's Steel Vengeance hyper hybrid roller coaster and the three outlaws affixed to the coaster's marketing and theme. Just for speculation....could Kings Island's 2020 B&M roller coaster be themed to or marketed as extraterrestrial creatures or the notorious Outpost 5 being that the 2020 attraction may be located in the X-Base area of the park? Very, very riveting nonetheless. Deer....Enjoy Folks! Deer...? Hmm. What a riveting word choice! Edited January 30, 2019 by QuantumMechanicsInMotion Diction 2 1 Quote
IndyGuy4KI Posted January 30, 2019 Author Posted January 30, 2019 Guys, there is not a hidden meaning into everything. Thinking outside the box is great, but the park referring to an animal common around the park is not a hidden message of a new coaster theming! 10 Quote
THE_BEASTmaster Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 Actually the park is right, there are deer in the woods there. There are deer in all of the woods in Ohio. That’s where they usually live last time I checked. I think you’re looking too much into that response. The park is probably getting tired of seeing questions about 2020 so they wanted to have a little fun with their reply.Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote
TombRaiderFTW Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 2 hours ago, QuantumMechanicsInMotion said: "Deer. They’ll browse and graze throughout the night, occasionally heading back to bedding spots for a few hours around midnight where they will remain for a couple hours before heading back out into open areas again in the early morning hours. Deer are fascinating creatures." Hmm, what a riveting response by park officials. The word "they" is reminiscent of Cedar Point's Steel Vengeance hyper hybrid roller coaster[...] Deer...? Hmm. What a riveting word choice! This is might officially be the funniest thing I've read on here in years. 3 Quote
beastfan11 Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 I’ve officially heard it all. So we can go ahead and confirm that the name of the new project is “They,” right? 3 Quote
silver2005 Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 Well, obviously, the giga will be Santa themed with the mention of deer, which will tie in to Winterfest quite well. The X-Base tie in is with how NORAD tracks Santa every Christmas, which will obviously lead Flight of Fear to be permanently named Flight of Cheer. Holiday World, eat your heart out. 2 3 Quote
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted January 30, 2019 Posted January 30, 2019 There are deer all over the woods in Ohio. Kings Island just doesn't want to answer the question directly so they decided to have a little fun. 1 1 Quote
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