Firehawk Leaving Kings Island 10/28/18

[139Signal27]

2 hours ago, Outdoor Man said:

I agree.  Could have been a unique centerpiece. Let me submit, though, that that level of theming isn't Cedar Fair's signature.  Just bring them in taller, faster, etc... then watch them become obsolete by the next taller, faster one in a few years.

I think we are seeing a shift in Cedar Fair's attitude. Mystic Timbers, Yukon Striker, Copperhead Strike all have elevated levels of theming compared to previous additions. 

[Hawaiian Coasters 325]

21 hours ago, TheRickster said:

Just not iconic enough of a ride for it.

Now whenever Vortex DOES meet it's end of life, really the only option is to mount one of the corkscrew pieces above the brick walkeway infront of the basketball game between Juke Box Diner and the trees further down towards Rivertown.

That would actually be a neat entry way to Coney Mall from Rivertown

[IndyGuy4KI]

10 hours ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:

That would actually be a neat entry way to Coney Mall from Rivertown

I am still waiting on someone to Photoshop a loop in to see what it could look like. 

[AmusementWatch]

The chances of Votex leaving Kings Island are very low unless some event comes up. Even though I'm personally not a big fan of Vortex because I got an awful ride off of it, I still think it should stay in the park because how photogenic it is.

[LovinMeSomeBanshee]

Vortex is now what, 30 something years old?  How much longer do we expect it to stay around?

[Arrow]

21 minutes ago, LovinMeSomeBanshee said:

Vortex is now what, 30 something years old?  How much longer do we expect it to stay around?

Going to assume really not anytime soon. It's still pretty popular, iconic, and isn't even close to the maintenance nightmare Firehawk was. I think it's pretty safe unless something major happens to it and the only option is to remove it.

[AmusementWatch]

That's what I just said unless some horrible event comes out that forces it to close. It's going to stay around because parts are still being produced, it's an icon and it's a fan favorite. I'm still not a big fan of Vortex but I hope it stays at Kings Island because it's a beautiful work of art!

[teenageninja]

1 hour ago, Arrow said:

Going to assume really not anytime soon. It's still pretty popular, iconic, and isn't even close to the maintenance nightmare Firehawk was. I think it's pretty safe unless something major happens to it and the only option is to remove it.

Cedar Point still has Corkscrew which was built 11 years before Vortex.  I don't see Vortex going anywhere anytime soon, honestly.  I wish they'd put some new trains on it, with soft OTSR, honestly.

[Maverick44]

I'd ride Vortex again with different restraints!

[upstop]

I’d like to see an RMC Vortex.  They could T-Rex it.

[139Signal27]

6 hours ago, Arrow said:

Going to assume really not anytime soon. It's still pretty popular, iconic, and isn't even close to the maintenance nightmare Firehawk was. I think it's pretty safe unless something major happens to it and the only option is to remove it.

I think it's more of a ridership and future expansion question. When it comes time to install the next coaster (after the assumed 2020 B&M), the park will have to ask itself a few questions:

Is Vortex sitting on land they want to use? Do they want to utilize operational savings from a Vortex removal to offset costs associated with the new coaster? Is Vortex experiencing any operational or maintenance difficulties? Does Vortex's ridership justify removal? Could it be relocated/sold (highly unlikely in my mind)?

Personally, I think the largest threats to Vortex are the land it sits on and possible decreasing ridership, not any maintenance concerns.

[Maverick44]

^ Vortex is fine.  They have much more space then to tear down a coaster that is iconic.  Get news trains or restraints and the que will be full.

[silver2005]

Haven't we had this conversation a million times now?  Is this site stuck in a mobius loop of threads?

[Maverick44]

Also to echo you @silver2005 Isn't this a Firehawk thread?

[SonofBaconator]

 

[Maverick44]

There it is!

[IndyGuy4KI]

14 hours ago, Maverick44 said:

Also to echo you @silver2005 Isn't this a Firehawk thread?

I have not been to worried about the off topic conversation. Firehawk is gone now. Not really any more news on its removal at this point.

[JubJester]

Should we start a new thread? Called "Firehawk's old stomping ground"?

[Shawn Meyer]

On 1/30/2019 at 8:52 PM, Maverick44 said:

This area is gonna look way different next time you see it

Plus all the trees are leaf-less right now which makes an area seem smaller than it really should be this time of year.

[MaxxForce]

What do you guys think the tombstone will look like for Firehawk? I remember posting an idea in the thread speculating about which coaster would be removed.

[Creed Bratton]

Probably a basic tombstone with the dates it operated in the park.

 

[sixohdieselrage]

It would be cool to have a Tombstone of a Hawk, with fire breathing out of its mouth as an Eternal Flame. 

[Maverick44]

I don't think Firehawk was that iconic to have an enteral flame.

[sixohdieselrage]

I never said it was iconic enough. Just that if it was, that is what i would like to see. 

Go back to looking at Intamin pictures please.

[Maverick44]

I don't have to go anywhere. I can see the best one right on my icon =)

I mean really though you didn't say "if" lol you said you'd like to see that haha. Stick to being Boring & Mundane lol

[sixohdieselrage]

At least I can count on them being operational 99% of the time. 

[Creed Bratton]

As I looked at Google Earth, I didn't realize prior to Firehawk being built how the plot of land looked. It definitely was box-y but was a good piece of real estate.

[Maverick44]

4 hours ago, sixohdieselrage said:

At least I can count on them being operational 99% of the time. 

Hey at least I'm worth the wait

Yeah the last is awesome there. Its a good place to expand!

[MDMC01]

I am loving this Intamin/B&M back and forth. 

But in all seriousness, like the little girl in that commercial said "Why not both?". Specifically, I was thinking of Valravn and Wicked Twister (and to a lesser extent, Maverick and Rougarou). 

-MDMC, who just named all but one of his Top 5 Cedar Point coasters.

[Creed Bratton]

1 minute ago, MDMC01 said:

I am loving this Intamin/B&M back and forth. 

But in all seriousness, like the little girl in that commercial said "Why not both?". Specifically, I was thinking of Valravn and Wicked Twister (and to a lesser extent, Maverick and Rougarou). 

-MDMC, who just named all but one of his Top 5 Cedar Point coasters.

I like the way you think....a dive shuttle coaster!