JonahWilliamson Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I cannot wait for the pictures about to come out this weekend 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LovinMeSomeBanshee Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Does anyone know how the chain is installed on a lift? I'm assuming the whole chain is installed after the lift hill is constructed, but how? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahWilliamson Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 3:53 PM, LovinMeSomeBanshee said: Does anyone know how the chain is installed on a lift? I'm assuming the whole chain is installed after the lift hill is constructed, but how? Expand They feed it up through the top side of the lift first. With a cable they will crank it through the chain guide then loop it through the gears on the top of the lift and back down. They usually do it in long sections attaching more chain as they wench it to the top. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Here is my latest mock up drawing with what we have now! 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejenkins1 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Do we know the angle of the first drop? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrfyter Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 3:36 PM, Maverick44 said: wow 7 that's a lot of cranes in 1 area! There were 4 large cranes in the video clip that I saw for the topping off- 1 holding up one end of the track, one holding up an end of the lift hill, 1 to move the last piece in place and 1 more with a cherry picker basket with 2 workers and tools to hold them in the air to bolt it all together. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrfyter Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 3:57 PM, JonahWilliamson said: They feed it up through the top side of the lift first. With a cable they will crank it through the chain guide then loop it through the gears on the top of the lift and back down. They usually do it in long sections attaching more chain as they wench it to the top. I always wondered about this. I figured it had to be lengths as a 600+’ chain would be ridiculously long and tough to manage. Shorter lengths attached together makes more sense. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Night Rider Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 4:09 PM, mikejenkins1 said: Do we know the angle of the first drop? Expand Great question. I did some googling and shockingly cannot find this anywhere. I’m surprised this hasn’t come up before either. I wonder why the first hill angle isn’t a released stat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahWilliamson Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Weird question i just thought of. Once they bolt that track in place and release all pressure from the cranes. That steel has to make some sort of noise as its settling against those supports right? I bet its a very unsettling sound. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguyfromohio Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 4:36 PM, JonahWilliamson said: Weird question i just thought of. Once they bolt that track in place and release all pressure from the cranes. That steel has to make some sort of noise as its settling against those supports right? I bet its a very unsettling sound. There’s videos of b&m coasters being built, it isn’t a bad sound. Kinda like if you drop some metal rod on the ground and it ringsSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkiridesmaint Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 4:36 PM, JonahWilliamson said: Weird question i just thought of. Once they bolt that track in place and release all pressure from the cranes. That steel has to make some sort of noise as its settling against those supports right? I bet its a very unsettling sound. Expand There certainly was when B&M used ball joints on the supports for their older coasters 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrfyter Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 4:36 PM, JonahWilliamson said: Weird question i just thought of. Once they bolt that track in place and release all pressure from the cranes. That steel has to make some sort of noise as its settling against those supports right? I bet its a very unsettling sound. The cranes don’t really hold pressure, they just position the piece. If you have never seen it done before, the erecting company uses metal pins to get the bolt holes to line up. Gravity and compression hold the pieces down while tensive strength allows it to get stronger as all the parts are bolted together. I wonder what grading of bolts is used to put it together? Grade 8 makes sense, but I don’t know if there is a higher grading than that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguyfromohio Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 4:47 PM, fyrfyter said: The cranes don’t really hold pressure, they just position the piece. If you have never seen it done before, the erecting company uses metal pins to get the bolt holes to line up. Gravity and compression hold the pieces down while tensive strength allows it to get stronger as all the parts are bolted together. I wonder what grading of bolts is used to put it together? Grade 8 makes sense, but I don’t know if there is a higher grading than that. Grade 8 is correct. And they range from 1”-2” thick, holding 120,000psiSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I wonder what one of those cost? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 4:03 PM, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said: Here is my latest mock up drawing with what we have now! Expand We may not see more lift hill erected for a while. I do not believe the cranes that are currently being used would be tall enough for another piece. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 The colors on Orion look better as the real deal over the renderings. Its a nice blue. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahWilliamson Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 4:47 PM, pkiridesmaint said: There certainly was when B&M used ball joints on the supports for their older coasters Expand Can someone post a photo of the Ball joint vs what they use now. Just so I and whoever else is curious can see 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 5:22 PM, BoddaH1994 said: We may not see more lift hill erected for a while. I do not believe the cranes that are currently being used would be tall enough for another piece. Expand I know that. I was just making a drawing using what we have now. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick44 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 5:24 PM, silver2005 said: The colors on Orion look better as the real deal over the renderings. Its a nice blue. Expand Kinda reminds me of Afterburn when it was first built down at Carowinds. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legofan237 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I wonder if they will finish the brake run first then start back on the lift hill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick44 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 6:33 PM, Legofan237 said: I wonder if they will finish the brake run first then start back on the lift hill. Expand Ahhh yes the ageless questions we are all wondering lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguyfromohio Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 6:33 PM, Legofan237 said: I wonder if they will finish the brake run first then start back on the lift hill. Probably not. Since the arch of the lift hill is self supporting, they should be starting the drop soon too, and meet up top around the same timeSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatguyfromohio Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 I assume it’ll be built just like fury’sSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingshaven Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 It;s funny we've been waiting weeks and months for Orion's lift hill to start and now that the first major pieces have been erected, this place is quiet as a mouse..lol. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick44 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 The sun hitting that blue is mighty fine looking. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Remember Orion is quite a bit shorter than Fury so I don't think they'll need that many cranes. Does anyone remember how many cranes were used for Leviathan since both are pretty close in size? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maverick44 Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 6:54 PM, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said: Remember Orion is quite a bit shorter than Fury so I don't think they'll need that many cranes. Does anyone remember how many cranes were used for Leviathan since both are pretty close in size? Expand I wonder if its more about the weight and angle more then the height. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/26/2019 at 6:50 PM, Kingshaven said: It;s funny we've been waiting weeks and months for Orion's lift hill to start and now that the first major pieces have been erected, this place is quiet as a mouse..lol. Expand I think a lot of people are dismayed at the ban of sixohdieselrage. I'm not going to go off topic, but another thread has garnered much attention with that topic. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collin.klopfstein Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 It’s Been pretty quite up here at CSF .. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klabergian Empire Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 On 9/25/2019 at 10:26 PM, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said: I believe that crane is too small to be our crane. Here is a picture of the crane used for Banshee. Source: https://www.google.com/search?q=Banshee+Kings+Island+construction&tbm=isch&ved=2ahUKEwiGhvqxgu3kAhVNXqwKHWnZC4gQ2-cCegQIABAC&oq=Banshee+Kings+Island+construction&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-img.3...17719.22637..22918...4.0..0.107.1920.16j5......0....1.......5..35i362i39j35i39j0i67j0j0i8i30j33i299.Xi8oxH7MMX4&ei=q-mLXcaEBM28sQXpsq_ACA&bih=630&biw=360&client=ms-android-verizon&prmd=isnv#imgrc=EIbZrioJ-cMb4M Expand I think this crane is a bit small for what they need for Orion. They need something about 300ft tall to assemble the lift hill. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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