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The block between the station and the lift hill along with the insanely long break run at the end almost eliminates stacking- and that's even without a MCBR. Diamondback is the only coaster I know of with a MCBR that is infamous for stacking.

Are two stations that hard a feat? I think B&M would be capable of making two stations on a coaster similar to Flight of Fear or Millennium Force.

A better example could be Millennium Force since that is indeed a giga that has both a loading station and an unloading station. I was amazed at how fast loading was with that extra station.

@upstop very good questions. It's so strange that over the past couple of days the threads have been talking a lot about Oktoberfest, and I think it's mainly due to the fact that older areas are getting love like International Street and Coney Mall.

In addition to this, I would take a page out of Verbolten's book retheme Adventure Express to the Black Forest to remain consistent with the German theme. I don't know how easy this would be, especially with the animated statues at the end of the ride but it would be an interesting change.

Correction- it was called the woods by user @bkroz but its the same general idea as the Black Forest. This is his work below. I would follow this concept and expand upon it so both sections flow evenly.

A KIC member once had the idea of merging Oktoberfest and Action Zone into one area called the Black Forest. I wouldn't mind this as long as its done right. Action Zone already has a creepy vibe going for it so it could adopt the Black Forest theme, but the German and European theming would have be consistent throughout both areas.

Something tells me FoF will get increased ridership this season and next

RCDB also considers The Voyage a wooden coaster even though its technically a hybrid in my book.

Ever since Cedar Fair Entertainment Company bought the Paramount parks in the mid 2000s, it seems like they've been straying away from cloned rides. Initially we saw some rides share the same name: multiple Flight Decks, Vortexes, and so on. However, in the more recent years we've seen these names change to better reflect their parks with a few exceptions like Racer 75, Patriot, and BLSC. In terms of cloned rides, I can't recall a time Cedar Fair has built a ground up cloned coaster. With exceptions to WindSeeker, Delirious, and a few smaller rides, most of their flats have been somewhat original as well. With all this in mind, is it safe to say that Cedar Fair trying to avoid cloned rides, and if so why? Is there a certain standard that the company is trying to set? Do they not want to just mimic the practices of rival companies Six Flags and Sea World? Or is it something else?

When I see Cedar Fair in relation to Six Flags, I often ask myself- is less more? I've never been to a Six Flags park but given everything I've read and researched, it seems to be quantity over quality with the company. I feel like while Cedar Fair doesn't operate as many parks as Six Flags, they seem to put quality care into their parks. While parks like Valley Fair, Worlds of Fun, Dorney Park, and Michigan's Adventure haven't received new coasters in quite some time, I still feel like they're well taken care of.

So everything changing in 2019 Return of the Antique Cars Improvements on The Racer Removal of Firehawk/ Mystery B&M project Huge International Street renovations 2019 seems like an awesome year to me

The question is, will the shops change entirely or will the exteriors just be redecorated?

I actually asked CF officials during a pannel if they were ever considering adding a hotel. They said that they see Kings Island is more of a regional park; however based off of the additions and improvements the park has been receiving as of late I think that might be changing.

This is a whole new level of KI Fanboy- doing a NL2 demolition

Moved and removed are two totally different things. As long as its in the park I still think it could turn a profit no matter where it is.

Not trying to sound rude, but I don't think that pond needs to be touched. Kings Island used to have a ton of ponds and lakes around the park and almost all of them were removed to accommodate a coaster. I would like to look at some actual scenery every now and then.

Its all about media coverage. Whenever Cedar Point gets a new coaster, its blasted across the US by the Today show or some other network.

My theory is because a lot of people have season passes so they can ride the ride whenever they want and put it off until another day.

This video was published in 2009. Doesn't matter if there's a fence or not, people will still do it.

In terms of crowds I wonder how much a giga would draw on opening day in terms of enthusiast attendance. Does anyone know which opening day had the highest attendance?

My pitch for overhauling Oktoberfest to its former glory while adding a new twist to the once beloved section. Expand Oktoberfest to include Tower Gardens to add more space Remove Hank's Burrito Shack and replace it with something more "German" Have the area sell exclusively German food like giant pretzels, sausage, etc. Bring back the classic Spinning Keggers Bring back the old clock outside of the Festhaus Add German theming around the area like flags, possible FCC soccer banners because of their German roots Move Slingshot to X-Base to allow more room for another flat Remove the ladder game and shorten the Adventure Express que to allow for more room Oktoberfest has been arguably the most neglected of the original 5 sections that debuted when the park opened in 1972 so bringing the area back to its former glory would be a welcomed return- especially if its done for the park's 50th anniversary.

I'd be for the return of the "Bavarian Beetle" along with the Kegs. KI is one of the only main CF parks without a wildmouse.

In no particular order The Crypt building This is one of the biggest eyesores in the park and I'm sure park officials want to do something with it Boo Blasters At the rate we've been seeing old attractions rise form the grave, I wouldn't count out the possible return of the Phantom Theater- if not that, an improved dark ride experience with a similar theme Oktoberfest Hank's Burrito Shack in a German themed area, need I say more? Also on a more personal note I would like to see BLSC get rethemed but I don't think that'll happen anytime soon

I actually prefer KI's because you can actually see the Eiffel Tower. KD's Eiffel Tower seems obstructed due to the abundance of trees.