BeeastFarmer

If the park gives you so much agnst, why do you still go?

If they make the World's biggest Skyline, the GiGa restoom needs to be built concurrently. That sits heavy on the stomach in 90 degree temps with high humidity!

@MisterSG1 I am tired and have eye strain after reading all of this! I think you are worked up over nothing. I think if the time ever comes that some entity offers Cedar Fair over a billlion dollars for Wonderland, and it's gone, you can stress out then. But I seem to remember you wanting to leave the area. If this is the case, i hope you land near a park that you enjoy!

It's been a while since I have read the book, so I could be mistaken. But either way, he was not satisfied with the guest experience. If the ride posed a dangerous risk to people, I'm sure they would have pulled the plug immediately. No last rides.

Remember, the end of useful service life doesn't mean the ride is unsafe. In @KIghostguy's book, he interviewed Mr. Kootnz who said he rode it, and it was not a comfortable ride. To make it so, it would have to have a new control system, new paint, new trains and IIRC, new track. And it would still be Vortex. So, it was decided to scrap. If they had foreknowledge of the devasting pandemic that was to come, I'd venture a conjecture that the ride would still operate to this day.

Slow down there, Hoss. They sell the park for 2 billion to a developer. The developer has to spend money to get zoning approval, permits etc. They pay taxes on the land while its under development. Massive remediation on the land. Surveying. Utility work. And finally, years later, they can go vertical. The market may or may not have dropped. And it costs alot of money to build.

I disagree. Rather than just something, add the right thing, even if time passes. (Hopefully) good things come to those who wait.

Because it's and old venue and they are testing the waters. If the concert series goes well this summer, they might invest in some improvements like pavers. If not, it might just be used as a staging area for Winterfest decor or left for cheerleading/Music in the Park events.

Yes and no. I have been to the PTE show twice now, and I have seen 4 little kids (they looked anywhere from 4 to 10ish) absolutely mesmerized by the show, without anything in their hands. And I know that this might tread on TOS, so please edit out if needed. I am surprised that shooter rides have any place in a family friendly amusement park in today's day and age. The talk is about normalizing gun violence that leads to things later on in life, then why would we do this with 4, 5 and 6 year olds? There is also a reason there are no more shooting galleries. But Cedar Point has skeletons shooting at each other.

I was fully engaged during the Enchanted Voyage and Smurf's Enchanted Voyage.

We noticed The Beast was down yesterday when riding Dback. So we went and did Mystic Timbers, Kings Mills Log Flume x2 and enjoyed park atmosphere for a bit. Then we had 4 stunning rides of The Beast. If the ride is down, there is plenty of other things to do. I'm 2.5 hours away, and yes, it sucks if the ride is down for the entire day, but odds are in my favor of having many more rides in the future.

Did it have sensors when it opened? I remember, as a child, there were employees stationed along the ride...the platforms at the top of each lift, the MCBR and up the 2nd lift where the train usually catches the train. I have always assumed they were the sensors, similiar to the employees at the top of the last lift on Kings Mills Log Flume. Of course, I could have been mistaken as a child. LOL

I wonder what the future holds for Gilroy Gardens?

Money was what drove this decision. They paid 150 million for it 3 years ago. Now selling it for 310 million. Even if you deduct the inflation out of the sales price, it's a very healthy return. Your reasons have plauged them for years and they knew these going into the purchase of the land., kind of like a nagging headache. I would imagine they had a pro and con list (also California being generally notoriously over regulated) and when a deal was offered at the price it was, they jumped to take the money and run.

Jinkies! That's terrible. I'll reserve judgement on "Groovy" until I see it live, but I loved the BB logo.

Does anyone here know why, in last night's FFF show, the words "Brady Bunch" replaced with the word "Groovy?"

I've watched it from start to finish, and while it's not the most comprehensive ride through KI history, it is an excellent five part series. I am glad he was able to put the project together, it seemed like it would be a daunting task...glad he was able to finish it.

I really like that concept! There could be a gate for the park near your pond for concert goers who buy a combo ticket. It also could be a neat place for winter shows and eats (Have a small indoor theater for live or electronic shows, a couple of eateries and maybe an indoor FEC or something)

Has the pathway to Timberwolf been built yet?

Agreed, agreed and agreed! If there ever is front gate renovation, I hope it is considered as Phase II of the Interntional Street rehab. Restore the landscaped logo berm on the left. Remove the banners and put flags back up. Add trees and flowers. Replace the shingles with another material and maybe add some dormers to break up the long bare roofline. Update the buildings on the left to look international. Replace the blacktop behind the Eifel Tower. Add some blue spruce trees and flower beds around the tower. Replace pavers in Tower Gardens. Remove the Junkyard Coaster and renovate the entire area into a Parisian Promenade with a few small classic flat rides, curved walking paths, lush landscaping and statuary and an Arc Triumphe. Oh and for goodness sakes, restore the ornate gas lamps on IS, entry plaza and in Parisian Promenade.

^Thank you for sharing those, @KIfan73! Very enjoyable and yes, the park has changed quite a bit. My favorite thing with your editing was the comment: "A pond" LOL

I did not notice any pothole(s) on my ride yesterday.

I went yesterday. I never experienced PT. I was impressed, but agree, there is so much material it is hard to keep up (I feel the same way about the Fun, Fireworks and 50)--this is not a terrible problem to have! ) Sensory overload. I have a much better appreciation for the ride after experiencing the show (I use the word experiencing purposefully. It is so much more than seeing the show.) But what made me even more appreciative was seeing children get sooo into the production. I saw clapping, dancing and smiles galore. I also appreciated that the show harkened back to a day when things were not so "careful"...there were some things that I consider edgy...references to smoking, drinking and dates. But all appropriately presented.

So, kudos need to go to KI Security. They rescued the dog twice. The only thing I could see being done differently is calling Mason Police when s/he picked the dog up from first aid. If KI does not have a policy regarding this, the incident would be an opportunity to develop one. Not knowing, and not knowing Mason's policies, I think they did well. Now for the individual who is guilty of doing this, s/he should have the dog surrendered.

I didn't hear that the park had been ill...