Shawn Meyer Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Klabergian Empire said: My reasoning: I respect your opinion, but I'm the opposite here. If done right, they could pull of a similar layout with a ground up rmc. It doesn't have to be record breaking, just fun! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodVengeance Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 An intamin launch coaster similar to pantheon could fit well in that area, especially if they had the launch and spike section right next to the path by where Vortex's batwing was. A man can dream. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klabergian Empire Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 I personally think the land is better used to add/expand Coney and Rivertown OR some sort of flat ride(s) and a roller coaster similar to Vortex. Im not asking for an exact replica of Vortex, just something of its style. Loops and corksrews. Now that Vortex is (pretty much) gone, the only inverting coasters in the park are Invertigo, Banshee, and FoF. Something with a classic coaster look with loops (and an original layout) would be an amazing fit for that area. Please note that I am not saying that an RMC shouldn't come to Kings Island. I know that at some point or another, the park will get an RMC. Just I don't think an RMC is what should be stuck in Vortex's old spot. Two areas I deem fitting for an RMC would be Area 72 and Oktoberfest. Oktoberfest hasn't gotten a ride since (I believe) Sling Shot in 2002 or A.E. since 1991. And if Kings Island wants to get on the Area 72 train with some steam in it, I would imagine and RMC would fit nicely on the other side of Orion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Klabergian Empire said: I personally think the land is better used to add/expand Coney and Rivertown OR some sort of flat ride(s) and a roller coaster similar to Vortex. Im not asking for an exact replica of Vortex, just something of its style. Loops and corksrews. Now that Vortex is (pretty much) gone, the only inverting coasters in the park are Invertigo, Banshee, and FoF. Something with a classic coaster look with loops (and an original layout) would be an amazing fit for that area. Please note that I am not saying that an RMC shouldn't come to Kings Island. I know that at some point or another, the park will get an RMC. Just I don't think an RMC is what should be stuck in Vortex's old spot. Two areas I deem fitting for an RMC would be Area 72 and Oktoberfest. Oktoberfest hasn't gotten a ride since (I believe) Sling Shot in 2002 or A.E. since 1991. And if Kings Island wants to get on the Area 72 train with some steam in it, I would imagine and RMC would fit nicely on the other side of Orion. The only way I could see an RMC in Oktoberfest is if they removed Adventure Express (also known on here as breaking the 11th commandment lol). I don't think an RMC would fit too well with the flight/space theme of Area 72. That's just my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said: The only way I could see an RMC in Oktoberfest is if they removed Adventure Express (also known on here as breaking the 11th commandment lol). I don't think an RMC would fit too well with the flight/space theme of Area 72. That's just my opinion. (Image source: visitkingsisland.com. Modified with: imgflip.com. Hotel: Trivago.) 8 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedar Fair Fanboy Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 On 11/11/2019 at 7:54 PM, FUN&ONLY! said: I have heard on Reddit that RailBlazer has a few structural weak points where the trains are exerting a lot of unwanted stress on the structure. Steel Vengeance is putting a lot of wear on the structure as well, and Cedar Point is having a hard time keeping up with maintenance. Twisted Timbers actually seems like it is the better of the three, but it still has the phone and metal detector problems that Steel Vengeance has. I don’t think Cedar Fair is willing work with RMC again until they can come up with a solid phone policy where the line still moves quickly. Also, according to some people on Reddit, the problems with Steel Vengeance have caused RMC’s and Cedar Fair’s relationship to decline. I cannot find exactly where all of this was originally said, but I found this post that has some pretty good comments worth reading farther down! Their Retracking it for the 2020 season. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThrillKingsFitzy Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 14 hours ago, MrSourNinja said: If we are going launch I’d rather go intamin with a beyond vertical drop. That start to maverick has you standing up in your seat. Especially compared to the catastrophe that was west coast racers. Not opposed to any of the three but that is my preference. Gerstlauer counts as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivertown Rider Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 It will be interesting to see if they widen the pathways with Vortex being gone. The area back by WindSeeker has needed some more space but that should be less of an issue this year since Vortex exit traffic won't be happening anymore. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarFairFan787 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 On 2/11/2020 at 10:39 PM, Rivertown Rider said: It will be interesting to see if they widen the pathways with Vortex being gone. The area back by WindSeeker has needed some more space but that should be less of an issue this year since Vortex exit traffic won't be happening anymore. If the park intends to keep the old Bat/Vortex station, then I don't see them widening any paths. I do agree that they need to widen it and that that area of the park would look a lot better, but only time will tell if they keep the Station. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sixflags82 Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, CedarFairFan787 said: If the park intends to keep the old Bat/Vortex station, then I don't see them widening any paths. I do agree that they need to widen it and that that area of the park would look a lot better, but only time will tell if they keep the Station. They tore down the station a couple weeks ago 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIBeast Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 On 10/16/2019 at 8:52 PM, LintemuthStudios said: X to doubt any dive coaster rumors. There's already one right up the road in Sandusky. Cedar Point and Kings Island pull from very different markets. Market overlay is very minimal. In other words, what exists at one park has almost zero to do with what is available at the other. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarFairFan787 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 21 hours ago, Sixflags82 said: They tore down the station a couple weeks ago Oh! I seem to have completely missed that fact. Thank you for correcting me. But with this new information that has been presented to me, I definitely think that we will be seeing some path widening, possibly with some new pavers like what they did with International Street for the 2019 season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klabergian Empire Posted February 14, 2020 Author Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, CedarFairFan787 said: Oh! I seem to have completely missed that fact. Thank you for correcting me. But with this new information that has been presented to me, I definitely think that we will be seeing some path widening, possibly with some new pavers like what they did with International Street for the 2019 season. Chances are you might even see a minor expansion to the Mall. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarFairFan787 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 Do you think WindSeeker will get anything new around it if the mall were to be expanded back there? Perhaps not for the 2020 season, but in the near future. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klabergian Empire Posted March 8, 2020 Author Share Posted March 8, 2020 1 hour ago, CedarFairFan787 said: Do you think WindSeeker will get anything new around it if the mall were to be expanded back there? Perhaps not for the 2020 season, but in the near future. I could see a minor expansion of the mall tbh. Its mere speculation as to what would go there, but I could see it happening. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUN&ONLY! Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I honestly think Vortex’s plot of land would be perfect for a massive Gerstlauer Infinity Coaster. It would be a perfect fit and look so good up along the midway like Vortex did. They can even give it a KCL light package like Hangtime to make it look even better at night. My only concern is that it would be too low capacity, but maybe they can resolve that with a dual loading station. For those who have ridden Hangtime or a similar Gerstlauer, how was it? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
139Signal27 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 25 minutes ago, FUN&ONLY! said: I honestly think Vortex’s plot of land would be perfect for a massive Gerstlauer Infinity Coaster. It would be a perfect fit and look so good up along the midway like Vortex did. They can even give it a KCL light package like Hangtime to make it look even better. My only concern is that it would be too low capacity, but maybe they can resolve that with a dual loading station. I could not agree more! An infinity coaster would retain the 48” height requirement, provide a unique thrilling ride, and be wonderfully photogenic. It also couldn’t really be compared to anything else in the region (mystery mine is a totally different experience than I’m picturing). I would love a heartline roll out of the station, a vertical lift, a beyond vertical drop, a midcourse rolling launch, and a bunch of inversions! I believe 9 or 10 inversions would take the North American record too. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I'd love an infinity. My biggest question is what could they theme it to? I don't know of any themes that could fit with Coney Mall that could fit with something like that and it's light package. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyano Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 41 minutes ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said: I'd love an infinity. My biggest question is what could they theme it to? I don't know of any themes that could fit with Coney Mall that could fit with something like that and it's light package. Theme it to a classic amusement park if that makes sense, this to me, would've been the perfect ride to be named The Ledge, but Cedar Fair dropped that trademark. edit: actually The Ledge is still active. https://trademark.trademarkia.com/the-ledge-87431876.html 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Here's a good shot of the land from reddit. https://www.reddit.com/r/KingsIsland/comments/ffvjn9/found_online_they_look_to_be_doing_some_land/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Tbh the more I look at that land, I actually think that would be a good location for a Forbidden Frontier type attraction. Like they could have some of it in the open and some of it go back into the woods near Beast. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ding Dong Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Not that I personally want it but the more I look at that terrain it just seems perfect for Monster Jam and then a coaster or FF type thing down the line. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 The land does open up possibilities for expansion but the topography wouldn't be ideal 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorkscrewMcPuke Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 It seems pretty clear at this point that they want to leave all physical traces of Vortex in the past, which is a decision that I can respect. While it does still bum me out a bit I can understand the importance for Cedar Fair to move forward with the park's layout. My only concern in the short/medium term is how all of this is going to effect The Beast. I do think Vortex being gone is eventually going to give it even better isolation, I really hope they can do something to accommodate for that deforestation until they can get some proper tree cover back there again. I do miss Vortex, but I've always gotta look after my Number 1. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ding Dong Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 4 hours ago, SonofBaconator said: The land does open up possibilities for expansion but the topography wouldn't be ideal Fortunately we have these geeks called engineers that can literally change topography. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSkyFoxx Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Unpopular opinion: If a coaster were to be placed on The Vortex plot, I would love to see a new Vekoma custom looper go there. Keep the classic feel but give an updated/smoother ride. Although I do not see CF working with Vekoma again or any time soon. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enchanted Voyage Lover Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 You can still see Vortex standing on Google Earth with 3D and terrain on. Heck, you can even see SOB! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klabergian Empire Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, Enchanted Voyage Lover said: You can still see Vortex standing on Google Earth with 3D and terrain on. Heck, you can even see SOB! Anyone wanna ride? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Sooo are we allowed to share stuff from reddit or not? @IndyGuy4KI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 21 minutes ago, SonofBaconator said: Sooo are we allowed to share stuff from reddit or not? @IndyGuy4KI Links to Reddit threads are grey areas for us as a organization, but ultimately we are not displaying or hosting the media against KIs rules. So we permit it as we can. Displaying as a link over embedding is always helpful as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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