FUN&ONLY! Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I hope this means we may see an S&S Air Launch Coaster or even an S&S Axis! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Kings Dominion already had an S&S air launch. Hypersonic XLC. It lasted from 2001 to a couple years after that. I would not look for a new S&S air launch to come back to Kings Dominion. I agree with Shaggy (although I have not ridden an S&S free spin), I feel like that is not the type of coaster that Kings Dominion needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I think something like Maxx Force would be a perfect fit for KD. Maybe just go all out and expand the idea a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 A S&S free spin would be fine if they were getting tight on space, we know that is not the case for KD. I think they need a B&M hyper. They lack in the floater air department. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zader Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 17 hours ago, IndyGuy4KI said: They lack in the floater air department. After my visit last summer, I've decided that KD is the positive G capital of the world. I like strong forces just as much as the next guy, but I think their lineup is really missing something that doesn't make you feel like you got hit with a Mac truck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted March 4, 2020 Share Posted March 4, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 8:19 PM, IndyGuy4KI said: A S&S free spin would be fine if they were getting tight on space, we know that is not the case for KD. I think they need a B&M hyper. They lack in the floater air department. I would say no because there's literally the first B&M hyper not too far away. A flyer or a wing would do that park good. I would even argue that they need both considering the the speculation that Anaconda won't be around much longer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhyano Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 I really like 4D Freefly coasters, they don't seem too expensive, and give great rides, granted I've only been on Joker at Six Flags Great America, but if it runs anything like Joker does, it'll be a fine addition to a park that desperately needs something new, and if you forget about Volcano for a minute, a 4D Freefly is a great replacement for The Crypt. I'm sure Kings Dominion will have something eventually for Volcano's plot of land, maybe that's why they shelved their wing coaster, which also would've been a fine addition, but not a true worthy replacement to the ride Volcano was, just maybe they're going to hold out for something bigger than a wing coaster. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThrillKingsFitzy Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 I mean technically they got a wing coaster? But I'm going with the Axis idea here because of the flipping aspect and the ability to be built in a compact area. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThrillKingsFitzy Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 8:19 PM, IndyGuy4KI said: They lack in the floater air department. Wouldn't Rebel Yell have floater? It's basically just the younger brother of Racer. Oh, wait I'm sorry, I mean RaCeR 75!! Edit: Sorry for the double post, I had a brainfart and forgot I posted one just 1 minute ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakePlissken Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Since 4d freespin threads are going to be locked maybe we can get somebody to change the title of this thread? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gad198 Posted March 8, 2020 Share Posted March 8, 2020 On 3/2/2020 at 8:19 PM, IndyGuy4KI said: I think they need a B&M hyper. They lack in the floater air department. This 100%. Intimidator 305, for all intents and purposes, was a flop. It very rarely has a line more than 10 minutes, and very few people want to re-ride it. It took 8 years after I305 debuted for another large coaster install. On the other hand, the B&M hypers that Cedar Fair has installed in 2008 (Behemoth), 2009 (Diamondback), and 2010 (Intimidator - Carowinds) quickly led to even larger B&M hyper installations in the form of the B&M gigacoasters. The B&M exclusivity contract tied with Apollo's Chariot should have run out by now, so this should be at least an option. A coaster like Goliath at either SFOG or La Ronde would be absolutely perfect for KD. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxxForce Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 So @collin.klopfstein and I are members of the ParkFans Forums, which means that we will be among the first people to see any blueprints or site plans for KD Project 2021. Once we find them, we will post them here and keep you guys updated on any new developments! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIghostguy Posted April 2, 2020 Share Posted April 2, 2020 Seems like there is active work going on: https://kdfans.com/2020/crypt-replacement-appears-immune-to-the-coronavirus/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 I wonder what Cedar Fair thinks of this park. Its got a lot of competition with BGW not to mention the Six Flags parks only hours away. Do you try to compete with BGW or do you try to change your target customer base? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin22 Posted April 3, 2020 Author Share Posted April 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, SonofBaconator said: I wonder what Cedar Fair thinks of this park. Its got a lot of competition with BGW not to mention the Six Flags parks only hours away. Do you try to compete with BGW or do you try to change your target customer base? I think the answer is change your target customer base. They used to be very much a thrill oriented park, former launch capital of the world. However under Cedar Fair they've really focused more on the family's. They've invested heavily into their kids area and its now the largest Peanuts themed Kids area in the world. They still certainly cater to thrill seekers but I no longer think that is who they want their primary market to be, it seems they're more geared toward the family. Another major aspect, especially for southern parks is their water park. That is also a major draw for them id assume. BGW was historically the more family focused park until recent years, however it seems they're now targeting thrill seekers more. Overall I think the parks that perform very well are those that cater to families, just look at Kings Island 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted April 3, 2020 Share Posted April 3, 2020 I'm gonna continue this on the kd thread I created so this thread can be for wing/4d talk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin22 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 There’s a photo of Freespin track on the KD parking lot, I’m not sure if the photo was taken on park property so I won’t be posting it here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 On 4/2/2020 at 6:51 PM, Benjamin22 said: I think the answer is change your target customer base. They used to be very much a thrill oriented park, former launch capital of the world. However under Cedar Fair they've really focused more on the family's. They've invested heavily into their kids area and its now the largest Peanuts themed Kids area in the world. They still certainly cater to thrill seekers but I no longer think that is who they want their primary market to be, it seems they're more geared toward the family. Another major aspect, especially for southern parks is their water park. That is also a major draw for them id assume. BGW was historically the more family focused park until recent years, however it seems they're now targeting thrill seekers more. Overall I think the parks that perform very well are those that cater to families, just look at Kings Island Could they become A knotts east coast had some dark rides family fun at family pricing a signature village plaza at the entrance maybe a Mrs knotts East ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 Dennis Spiegel said one big mistake with KD was not naming it Kings Island. Suppose they had named it Kings Island instead of Kings Dominion. What would you expect to have changed at both Kings Island parks if this had happened? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 ^^KD will lose spectacularly in a theming war with BGW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin22 Posted July 15, 2020 Author Share Posted July 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, silver2005 said: ^^KD will lose spectacularly in a theming war with BGW. To be fair Cedar Fair recently has been theming their attractions more and more. Weber group, who did theming for Copperhead strike frequently does work for SEAS, could maybe work with KD. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted July 15, 2020 Share Posted July 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Benjamin22 said: To be fair Cedar Fair recently has been theming their attractions more and more. Weber group, who did theming for Copperhead strike frequently does work for SEAS, could maybe work with KD. westcoaster was suggesting they become Knott's East, which is a far cry from what the other CF parks are doing and would require Carowinds' level of investment in what I think would be a losing strategy to compete with a park very well known for it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 6 hours ago, BeeastFarmer said: Dennis Spiegel said one big mistake with KD was not naming it Kings Island. Suppose they had named it Kings Island instead of Kings Dominion. What would you expect to have changed at both Kings Island parks if this had happened? Wow never heard this thank goodness they were not named samed..Now going back generations my Granparents loved Coney Cincinnati. they loved kings dominion the eifel tower n keepsakes all from Dominion not the Island. I think two Kings Islands would have veen too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbackdreams Posted July 16, 2020 Share Posted July 16, 2020 Wgoa that would be weird 2 King's island's. We might go there dad said but is it just like King's island or difrent. I read they had good caster in a vulcayno but it broke. I saw taula from caster studos said it kept fallen backward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 Looks like it is a S&S freespin even though the person who posted it is a little confused. https://www.facebook.com/groups/kdconnoisseurs/permalink/1395579243970012/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted July 17, 2020 Share Posted July 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, IndyGuy4KI said: Looks like it is a S&S freespin even though the person who posted it is a little confused. https://www.facebook.com/groups/kdconnoisseurs/permalink/1395579243970012/ Did he really just say it's B&M track? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 1 hour ago, SonofBaconator said: Did he really just say it's B&M track? They said it was a joke later in the post once corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted July 18, 2020 Share Posted July 18, 2020 2 hours ago, IndyGuy4KI said: They said it was a joke later in the post once corrected. Sarcasm is hard to read on social media 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gforce1994 Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 The Free Spin is going to be a custom model, not the model found at SF or Adventureland parks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondbackFan Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, gforce1994 said: The Free Spin is going to be a custom model, not the model found at SF or Adventureland parks. Looking at the supports, it is clear that Kings Dominion is not getting the Six Flags model. The four \|/ shaped supports that get bolted to the foundation are not there. We don't know if this coaster is the same model as Adventureland Park or not. https://twitter.com/KDFansOnline/status/1335308941694291968 Six Flags model: Dragon Slayer at Adventureland Park: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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