BeeastFarmer

I remember this too well. I was 2 weeks from graduation and it rocked our world.

17 is my go to spot. But don't spread that around, I don't want people taking my spot, haha. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

I'd be very sad! I just started riding Vortex again three years ago. I'd be up for an RMC overhaul of Vortex, though...think about it...increase the lift hill, use Ibox track, throw in some barrel rolls by the midway, get rid of the rough transition before the MCBR...replace the helix of vomit with something awesome...[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23] Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

Oh you fortunate, fortunate people. [emoji23] Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

Interesting viewpoint! I would have guessed that the closer to KI you get, the higher the percentage of gold passes you would have, but out of these folks, you would have a lower amount of per visit spending because it's just right there...vs a gold pass holder from Lexington who comes two or three times per season but spends money on souvenirs, blue ice cream, the dollar refills etc. I never looked at it in the context you do. Maybe KK is on to something here. Big season pass sales, but instead of meal plans, make decent park food at decent prices, have reasonably priced merch etc so that even daily visitors spend money each visit. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

But you are comparing a MSA to a city. (Mason Ohio to a large section of Kentucky. Etown is a fur piece from KK.). Also, a huge market for KK is Nashville which has a very high median income. Finally, KI draws daily tickets and season passes way beyond Mason and even Cincinnati. I have a platinum pass to the CF parks and a season pass to KK and I live much closer to KK, but I visit KI much more. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

According to city-data.com, the average median incomes for Louisville and Cincinnati are: Louisville: $38,005.00 Cincinnati: $38509.00 I am not enough of a data cruncher to know if these are based on ZIP codes in the cities proper of the complete MSA's of the cities. Cincinnati has a much larger MSA than Louisville however. I don't think KK can ever compete with KI on sheer scale, but I do think they can chip away at market share. KI and CF would be prudent resource managers to pay attention and adjust accordingly.

But wouldn't this include the many YouTuber vloggers who monetize?

Deja vu... Scroll back many pages and you might see these points: CF would be foolish to not pay attention to KK. A very realistic 1000 Gold passes lost out of the market means $100,000.00 of lost revenue for CF/KI, based on a Gold pass price. Add in Fuxpix, Meal plans, season drink passes, Blue Ice Cream cones, Preferred Parking, Christmas tree ornaments, funnel cakes, Slingshot rides, t-shirt sales etc. A small amount of Kings Island's yearly revenue, but that revenue counts. CF/KI execs either laugh at a threat or don't even know KK or HW exist. KK reopens with Flying Scooters and a frog jumping ride and a major water park expansion. KI installs Flying Scooters and Snoopys Space buggies one year and another year has a waterpark expansion. KK opens a RMC coaster one year, the next year KI opens a CGI. Happenstance or move-checkmate? Myself, personally--I love having KK re-opened. I do think CF/KI pays close attention to all competition because they are smart. Competition is good in the industry. Both parks seem to be making smart investments. I think the future is bright for both.

IIRC, the area that has the higher height limit is the vacant lot between the hotels (Manning Rd) and the waterpark. It is used for staging now, I think. If not, maybe it is up by the overflow parking lot to the right of the picnic pavilions. If that is the case, the lift could go there with the smaller hills and ground hugging sections in the vacant lot between the hotels and the water park.

As an apiarist, I say "Thank you!"

Personally, I was not impressed with PVZ. The cycle was very short (which is needed for throughput) and the game just seemed to run at about 1.5 the speed needed. I'd much prefer something like Voyage to the Iron Reef, which was alot of fun. But I'd be happy to skip the attraction and let the many people it would draw in take the seat. There's so much to do already!

My understanding is that there is about 20 acres that the Fair Board has made available for expansion and it near the picnic pavilions and in between the water park and the hotel. The height limit is 200-215 feet here, I think. That is why the sky swing ride is placed there. Also, from the end of this area (SW end, I think) over to the amphitheater and over to Storm Chaser--the Fair Board owns all this and is letting leases expire to make the land available for future park expansion. This would require the city to vacate the streets of Adair, E. Southern Heights Ave, Seneca, Sioux, Huron and Dakota. Much of that is vacant land and I've been told that many of the businesses on Dakota were used by SIX when they operated the park, so likely they would expire sooner than later since new businesses moved in. It would also be nice if they could get control of the small piece of land between Cheyenne and the parking entry gate, but I think that is privately owned. Ed Hart said in a local newscast "live broadcast" that he based his placement of rides around the water park on Coney Island in NY. All that being said, besides a new coaster, I hope the park infills much more. So much potential for this around Storm Chaser and Eye of the Storm. I'm excited to see the new bird show in the amphitheater.

Wow, @harmony29 and @KImom, nice to see some other Central KY folks in these here forums! I have taken the 127 route before, but did it on the way home so I could enjoy the scenery. Interesting side note: I found it weird last week that it was 4 hours and 40 minutes to get to CP from downtown Cincy and it was 5 hours and 30 minutes to get home from CP to Harrodsburg. Waze was very accurate with the time! ( I did have to stop in Dayton for a power nap. And there were deer on Versailles Rd in between Keeneland and the Castle. Very glad for that power nap to keep me alert enough to see deer at 3am!)

I think they are all pretty tasteless. Surprising for a park that prides itself for a family atmosphere. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

Which you authored!

All I can say is that I was blown away by Winterfest. I'd love to see more weeknights added into the schedule since I work every weekend. The investments will continue to pay off, I hope.

Avoid the issue! Revert back to a Nokia flip phone ASAP. Maybe KI will let those phones in Diamnondback's queue go for a song...

9170 steps today in about 5 hours. This was an overly, planned visit. It will be interesting to compare the Cedar Point steps to this later today. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

Did Diamonback's station and sign get painted this year? And has anybody seen the new rope theming in The Beast station? Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

Currently at IS Skyline. As usual, worst food experience in the park. One cashier, one assemler and one guard at the door. But the staff is working hard, so they will get props at Guest Services. Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk

I've been listening to this on and off. Not knowing the complete context, but it is rather painful to listen to. "In Ohio, the rides are inspected by Parks and Recreation or Fish and Wildlife, people who don't know what they are doing now." "I think there is one at Carowinds (Eifel Tower)." "The tower at Kings Islands looks like it is made out of Legos or something."

They made up for it with the cheese. I rarely get fries at the park. I always get way too many. The portion size looks great for managing my T1D.

I think this viewpoint is rather simplistic. I'd say CF would use the amortization/depreciation method of accounting vs "paying off" investments. And lets not forget the (I'd conjecture) MILLONS that were spent on Winterfest and the Island Smokehouse. And I'd suppose there was plenty of coin spent this year on seen and unseen projects/infrastructure.

Just got myself registered for my 4th Coasterstock!