silver2005 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Just so you know the confidence of B&M, they had an interview while they were constructing Nemesis at Alton Towers, and they were asked if there was a possibility the ride would stall and B&M said straightforward that their rides don't stall. Granted, that has proven false when you add wind to the equation (most B&M valley's have been due to wind), but these guys know what they're doing. Unfortunately, I can't source it as its lost in the depths of the internet, but its a thing that happened. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I know Leviathan has valleyed a few times before. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkiridesmaint Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 6 hours ago, Skibum said: While I wish that that Orion construction camera was still running, I guess that it will be rather boring from this point forward. Regarding testing, I would think that they have to: 1. Install the lift hill chain and motor. 2. Finish installing the brake systems, including any trims. 3. Get the station up and running, including drive tires or whatever will be needed to propel the stopped trains. 4. Do a proper clearance run with one car and the projected clearance envelope. 5. Landscaping, finish the queue, and who knows what else. Not being privy to what all has occurred, I'm not sure where they are on the above steps. lift motor was installed as lift hill was constructed, they don’t do clearance testing with a car, they have a cutout that they place at all areas that could come in contact. Drive tires were pre-attached to the VFD drive motors on the individual sections and delivered that way. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collin.klopfstein Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Ding Dong Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I didn't even know B&M made woodies. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collin.klopfstein Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I guess we should’ve looked closer at the blueprints. Two spots on the blueprints where it says and shows trim brakes.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin22 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I don’t know how to read blueprints however we’ve only seen one trim break installed, I don’t think there’s another trim break going onto this ride. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collin.klopfstein Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Benjamin22 said: I don’t know how to read blueprints however we’ve only seen one trim break installed, I don’t think there’s another trim break going onto this ride. I meant that there is two spots where it says there will be trim brakes, I didn’t mean that there will be two trim brakes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIguy2004 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 11 hours ago, pkiridesmaint said: Drive tires were pre-attached to the VFD drive motors on the individual sections and delivered that way. What are VFD drive motors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klabergian Empire Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, KIguy2004 said: What are VFD drive motors? Best way I can explain it is they are kinda like the systems on Flying Ace Areial Chase's lift hill, only they are used in the station/ before the lift hill/ transfer track area(s). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkiridesmaint Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Klabergian Empire said: Best way I can explain it is they are kinda like the systems on Flying Ace Areial Chase's lift hill, only they are used in the station/ before the lift hill/ transfer track area(s). VFD’s are used more than what you describe, VFD is a Variable frequency drive, which means in dumbed down terms the motor can be sped up and down by adjusting the voltage AND frequency while maintains the same level of torque. almost all coasters at Kings Island have a variable speed motor on their lift. Ever notice the change in speed as you’re ascending? On The Bat, The Beast, racer, Mystic Timbers? That is because the Programmable logic controller is controlling the lift motor and varying the speed depending on the location of the other trains in the blocks. B&M uses VFD motors in the block brakes and station because they can slow the motor way down and accurately park the train in the same position every time. Older coasters rely solely on their brakes to stop a train in the correct position which never produces consistent results 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIguy2004 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 Anything happening with Orion? I wonder if the trains will each be a different color? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThrillKingsFitzy Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, KIguy2004 said: Anything happening with Orion? I wonder if the trains will each be a different color? I'm hoping something like blue black and orange. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nutterie Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 anything happening at all?Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JubJester Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I wonder if they got the chain for the lift in... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster sally Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Chain is already installed, cranes are gone. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cedar Fair Fanboy Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Noticed something is happening with the shed at Mystic Timber's forest? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TombRaiderFTW Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 Maybe putting the trains back on the track? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enchanted Voyage Lover Posted February 13, 2020 Share Posted February 13, 2020 I would guess taking the trains off for winter maintenance since they were still running 45 days ago where the other coasters were not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malem Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I split out the conversation about addressing noise complaints into this thread: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collin.klopfstein Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 https://twitter.com/KingsIslandPR/status/1228775843272515585?s=20 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDMC01 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I am so excited! I love the colors; it looks like a B&M Millennium Force (ok, I know it's not, but still)! This thing is going to be amazing!!! Can't wait for testing!!! Also, this seems relevant: 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collin.klopfstein Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, MDMC01 said: I am so excited! I love the colors; it looks like a B&M Millennium Force (ok, I know it's not, but still)! This thing is going to be amazing!!! Can't wait for testing!!! Also, this seems relevant: Yeah, im wondering if they made the the lift hill supports different colors like Diamondback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodistict Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Now that's an 85° drop if I've ever seen one! 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collin.klopfstein Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 You'll notice it just wait... 4 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kodistict Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 3 minutes ago, collin.klopfstein said: You'll notice it just wait... This goose looks like it's very amazed by Orion 4 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Will the angle of descent help or hinder the experience? The only thing that comes to mind with with was that for decades Vortex had the best drop in the park, and that was not angles in a particularly vertical manner. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gplez90 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 2 hours ago, BoddaH1994 said: Will the angle of descent help or hinder the experience? The only thing that comes to mind with with was that for decades Vortex had the best drop in the park, and that was not angles in a particularly vertical manner. Personally, I don’t believe so. If you’ve been on the other B&M gigas, the steeper angle makes it feel like the drops just goes on forever! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 41 minutes ago, Gplez90 said: Personally, I don’t believe so. If you’ve been on the other B&M gigas, the steeper angle makes it feel like the drops just goes on forever! Actually, I haven’t been, so this is good information! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coaster sally Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 46 minutes ago, Gplez90 said: Personally, I don’t believe so. If you’ve been on the other B&M gigas, the steeper angle makes it feel like the drops just goes on forever! I beg to differ. I305's 85° drop is not very good while fury's 80° or so seems to last longer. Don't know how this one will feel cause it's new from b&m. Skyrush has an 85° drop and is one of the best in the world. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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