brenthodge Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 2 hours ago, BeeastFarmer said: This just shows that people will buy whatever the park peddles. I'm sure it was a tasty and well presented meal. But they offer it on the meal plan. Let's see if there is an upcharge trial coming next...for only $5.00, you can add the chef's plate each time it's offered! If it goes well and dining plans continue to sell, they could roll this out to other areas...for only $5.00, you can add one side item at Coney BBQ! (But they have taken the side away and just give a hush puppy now). For only $5.00, you can super size you Skyline meal! ( While they make it the same size as ever, but half the size of the non upgraded choice) Or, if you don't want up charges each visit, indulge in the super duper meal plan that gets you all the premium offerings...only $350/season for Gold passholders and $450 for Prestige passholders. ( They could even offer the double stack chicken, but the upcharge would have to be at least $8!). No. Not buy “whatever the park peddles” but some of us can at least think more creatively than the management can about their own product. The park is clearly in the business of increasing pr cap spending. So I question who this chefs plate was even intended for and what revenue they intended to drive from it. They did no marketing outside of their own social media and their affiliated copy and paste talking heads. They had no price on the sign. They offered no “wine pairing at time of purchase” which would’ve been a great add on. I’d venture 90% of the line stretched to the entrance got the Neal “for free”. By the time those people might’ve been eating out in the park and someone say “ that looks awesome, where did you get it?” They were sold out. The whole thing was tasty yet pointless from a business standpoint. They’ve had them so infrequently and so Kate in the season it wasn’t even a good way to build word of mouth about it as the season went on. You ideas- while good at increasing revenue seem like tacky cash grabs and aren’t organic. They didn’t have to make it part of the dining plan, and I venture would’ve been better had they not. To offer it at a reduced price or as“meal plan add on” is a more organic way of monetizing it better. Heck if they did this weekly then yes, provide a “meal plan deluxe” that includes monthly specials (that have gone extinct) and special features such as the chefs plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, DonHelbig said: Maybe it was the same person that gave fans of the park "Did summer fly by 2FAST4U?" on their social media channels. Summer until supplies last? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 @brenthodge, I wasn't necessarily talking about you, I am talking about the season pass base at Kings Island. Six Flags is in this business to make money for the investors. So it's wise to try to extract dollars out of the customer base. But, if they continue to degrade the service and people continue to purchase, it gives them incentive to degrade further. If I recall correctly, you have brought this up about WinterFest, Grand Carnivale and earlier this year about a prop not working on the new roller coaster. They roll out these wonderful programs and activities to get to get the hook in, the passholders bite and the company reels them in on the line, and they sink money in, only to get fried on the experience. Not all the time, but it seems to be a pattern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr0y Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 4 minutes ago, BeeastFarmer said: @brenthodge, I wasn't necessarily talking about you, I am talking about the season pass base at Kings Island. Six Flags is in this business to make money for the investors. So it's wise to try to extract dollars out of the customer base. But, if they continue to degrade the service and people continue to purchase, it gives them incentive to degrade further. If I recall correctly, you have brought this up about WinterFest, Grand Carnivale and earlier this year about a prop not working on the new roller coaster. They roll out these wonderful programs and activities to get to get the hook in, the passholders bite and the company reels them in on the line, and they sink money in, only to get fried on the experience. Not all the time, but it seems to be a pattern. Bait, AND switch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenthodge Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, BeeastFarmer said: @brenthodge, I wasn't necessarily talking about you, I am talking about the season pass base at Kings Island. Six Flags is in this business to make money for the investors. So it's wise to try to extract dollars out of the customer base. But, if they continue to degrade the service and people continue to purchase, it gives them incentive to degrade further. If I recall correctly, you have brought this up about WinterFest, Grand Carnivale and earlier this year about a prop not working on the new roller coaster. They roll out these wonderful programs and activities to get to get the hook in, the passholders bite and the company reels them in on the line, and they sink money in, only to get fried on the experience. Not all the time, but it seems to be a pattern. Oh yes - I agree on all that. My only point is I don't even know why they do things like Chef's Plate if they aren't using it to actually serve a purpose. Just like CARNIVALE was so misguided and poorly executed from a food ops standpoint, that I also don't know why they really bothered. If it doesn't justify itself financially it will be cut, and the line to the entrance shows there's demand. Now you have to wonder if it's true demand or it's "steak for free" demand. That's why I even suggest exploring the nominal upcharge idea ONLY FOR THINGS LIKE THAT to generate revenue so hopefully things like a flag in Snoopy's hand can maybe be replaced during the whole of the season. There just doesn't seem to be ANY creative thinking from the top anymore. It's "cut and cut" when you could actually "ADD, AND ADD, AND ADD" and increase revenue at a rate that exceeds the rate of investment. That just takes trust in your creative and planning people - THAT'S what I don't think exists anymore. It's easier to cut on the front end than to project out future revenue on the back end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenthodge Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 2 hours ago, IndyGuy4KI said: Summer until supplies last? I think you mean Supplies! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenthodge Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 6 hours ago, DispatchMaster said: Whoever approved that sign for public display deserves a talking-to. "Service begins at 5PM until Supplies last" not only doesn't make sense, buy why the heck is "Supplies" capitalized?!? Shouldn't it read "Service begins at 5PM while supplies last"? I'd go even a bit classier and say "Limited availability. Tickets will be distributed to those in line beginning at 4:45 pm. Service from 5pm until sell-out." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr0y Posted August 29 Share Posted August 29 1 hour ago, brenthodge said: Oh yes - I agree on all that. My only point is I don't even know why they do things like Chef's Plate if they aren't using it to actually serve a purpose. Just like CARNIVALE was so misguided and poorly executed from a food ops standpoint, that I also don't know why they really bothered. If it doesn't justify itself financially it will be cut, and the line to the entrance shows there's demand. Now you have to wonder if it's true demand or it's "steak for free" demand. That's why I even suggest exploring the nominal upcharge idea ONLY FOR THINGS LIKE THAT to generate revenue so hopefully things like a flag in Snoopy's hand can maybe be replaced during the whole of the season. There just doesn't seem to be ANY creative thinking from the top anymore. It's "cut and cut" when you could actually "ADD, AND ADD, AND ADD" and increase revenue at a rate that exceeds the rate of investment. That just takes trust in your creative and planning people - THAT'S what I don't think exists anymore. It's easier to cut on the front end than to project out future revenue on the back end. The park is being reimbursed by corporate whenever someone redeems a meal with their all season dining pass. Including Chefs plate. So even if you wanted to call it “steak for free” demand the park is getting paid per meal plan redemption. I can almost guarantee what the park gets reimbursed from corporate is more than what it actually cost the park to make a single meal from Chef’s plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenthodge Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 2 hours ago, Tr0y said: The park is being reimbursed by corporate whenever someone redeems a meal with their all season dining pass. Including Chefs plate. So even if you wanted to call it “steak for free” demand the park is getting paid per meal plan redemption. I can almost guarantee what the park gets reimbursed from corporate is more than what it actually cost the park to make a single meal from Chef’s plate. cool - thats makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSkyFoxx Posted August 30 Share Posted August 30 On 8/28/2024 at 8:44 AM, robintodd said: Snoopy's Soap Box Racers brought to you by Sonder. Snoopy's DUI Course! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion-XL200 Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 13 hours ago, DJSkyFoxx said: Snoopy's DUI Course! Let's go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr0y Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 As recommended by @BoddaH1994 last night I tried the One Giant Pretzel at Brewhouse. Very good! I it’s a better deal for two, than Auntie Anne’s at the park. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion-XL200 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Is that the beer cheese? I haven't had it yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr0y Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 2 minutes ago, Orion-XL200 said: Is that the beer cheese? I haven't had it yet. Same cheese sauce they use in the Mac and cheese, I believe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB1 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 On 8/28/2024 at 8:35 AM, DJSkyFoxx said: Soon the rides will be sponsored by Sonder or Rhinegeist ….I approve of Rhinegeist, Sonder not so much. BB1, more than willing to ride the Intamin green TRUTH sponsored by Rhinegeist coaster that ends with a micro brewery where one could get a Truth after riding TRUTH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarPointer Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 I just don't understand doing specials when they fail to even get the basics right. This the same park that found a simple chicken sandwich to be an insurmountable obstacle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr0y Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 20 minutes ago, CedarPointer said: I just don't understand doing specials when they fail to even get the basics right. This the same park that found a simple chicken sandwich to be an insurmountable obstacle. You can still get the grilled chicken sandwich? Its at Jukebox Diner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 21 hours ago, Tr0y said: As recommended by @BoddaH1994 last night I tried the One Giant Pretzel at Brewhouse. Very good! I it’s a better deal for two, than Auntie Anne’s at the park. That kinda looks like a BM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 21 hours ago, Orion-XL200 said: Is that the beer cheese? I haven't had it yet. It’s the beer cheese, and it’s very good!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSkyFoxx Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 On 8/31/2024 at 11:26 PM, BB1 said: ….I approve of Rhinegeist, Sonder not so much. BB1, more than willing to ride the Intamin green TRUTH sponsored by Rhinegeist coaster that ends with a micro brewery where one could get a Truth after riding TRUTH. Aww see I am team Sonder. But don't worry, there are plenty of sponsorship opportunities for both to make their stand! Or...errr..stumble... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timchat2 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 The 2024 Tricks and Treats menu has been posted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikejenkins1 Posted September 13 Share Posted September 13 So where will they be selling the Chili????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad_1138 Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 The French Corner Bar & Bistro. Same food menu. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenthodge Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 35 minutes ago, chad_1138 said: The French Corner Bar & Bistro. Same food menu. lol. They STILL have the weird Starbucks swirly thing above the cash wrap. Give it up guys! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarPointer Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 In other news, they've now budget cut the topping bar from Jukebox Diner. Cedar Point's guests get sliced steak and lobster bisque, but Mike's guests don't even get lettuce and pickles with their $18 cheeseburger. But at least they finally managed to get two (2) Icee machines installed in Rivertown... after the peak summer season ended, of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Do they have coffee and hot, chocolate-flavored water available yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarPointer Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 15 minutes ago, BeeastFarmer said: Do they have coffee and hot, chocolate-flavored water available yet? The unnamed Icee stand next to French Corner Bar has a hot chocolate machine set up, but no cups, so I'm guessing it's not up and running yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco2000 Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Anyone else notice the additional pop up alcohol stands LOL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmartCat7162 Posted September 21 Author Share Posted September 21 23 hours ago, CedarPointer said: The unnamed Icee stand next to French Corner Bar has a hot chocolate machine set up, but no cups, so I'm guessing it's not up and running yet. That stand is called International Street Treats I believe. https://www.visitkingsisland.com/dining/international-street-treats 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaFlyer Posted October 6 Share Posted October 6 Just tried the “Spicy Smokehouse Mac and Cheese” at Wishbone. It’s described as having brisket bits, honey BBQ glaze, spicy cheese sauce, and cavatappi. The brisket is just the burnt ends from Coney BBQ, and the cheese sauce is just what they put on the Mac and Cheese at Coney. It’s incredibly lightly applied- not cheesy at all. No spice anywhere. The photo they have on display seems to show a red buffalo type sauce, but this didn’t come on mine. I guess I should just go to Coney and put burnt ends on my Mac, then I’d get a bigger portion and a hush puppy. However, the Monster Mash flatbread at IS Larosa’s is great! Depending on when you go, it might take a minute to get. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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