starlitfire Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 36 minutes ago, AZ Kinda Guy said: #RMCTheBeast I'm 90% sure there would be a riot from both the GP and the enthusiast community if KI decided to RMC The Beast or Racer, for that matter. I'm more certain we'd get a ground-up RMC than have one of those two get RMC'd. However, I'm more sure that Racer could be retracked (hasn't this already occurred to an extent?) and I wouldn't have as much of a problem. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gannersdaddy Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 32 minutes ago, starlitfire said: I'm 90% sure there would be a riot from both the GP and the enthusiast community if KI decided to RMC The Beast or Racer, for that matter. I'm more certain we'd get a ground-up RMC than have one of those two get RMC'd. However, I'm more sure that Racer could be retracked (hasn't this already occurred to an extent?) and I wouldn't have as much of a problem. I think you are giving the GP community too much credit. I doubt they would even know. The enthusiasts would probably be split but get over it. The firefight over it would be crazy to watch though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 9 minutes ago, Gannersdaddy said: I think you are giving the GP community too much credit. I doubt they would even know. The enthusiasts would probably be split but get over it. The firefight over it would be crazy to watch though. I think you're giving too little credit to the GP community, lots of people LOVE The Beast the way it is. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McSalsa Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 ^ If you look at what I would call a "GP" poll (from a regular news site, not a amusement park fan site like KIC, TPR, etc etc.) Beast almost always wins when the topic is "favorite Kings Island roller coaster). For example, here is a poll run before the park opened this year by Cincinnati.com... (Some people here may have voted in this and remember it- I did...) https://www.cincinnati.com/story/entertainment/2018/04/09/less-than-week-until-kings-island-opens-lets-reminisce-lets-vote-our-favorite/489217002/ Beast won, with 100+ more votes than 2nd place Diamondback. Also Flight of Fear votes were being pushed by the Premier Rides Facebook Page (no other company was pushing their rides in this poll) allowing it to get 3rd. Another poll I remember was done in 2014, before Banshee opened, and I can't confirm this 100% because the page was deleted but Beast took over 40-50% of the total votes in that poll and won as well (Diamondback was the runner-up there too). It also gets pretty long lines on even mildly busy days, in spite of being able to handle over 1,000 riders per hour (and if the park closes at 10 or later and it gets dark, the line gets even longer as people want their night rides). Even enthusiast polls rank Beast fairly highly- it's 43rd on the Coasterbuzz 100, with a average rating of 4.28 out of 5, putting it ahead of rides like SheiKra, Raptor, The Raven, and Kingda Ka. It was also in the Top 50 usually on the Mitch Hawker poll, which was VERY enthusiast-centric. These are signs that the coaster is successful, and you don't RMC coasters that don't need it, unless you want to get the huge fan backlash. (Not to mention RMC has had some issues, which would make the Backlash 10x worse if repeated) As much as I love Steel Vengeance, and want to see Kings Island get its own RMC monster, I would rather see KI build something from the ground-up than convert Beast, or Racer for that matter. I would be happy to see either of the classic woodies get some re-tracking at least though, they are both running pretty rough this season, and I don't think too much major work has been done on Beast since it got a major re-track in 2014 (I remember it felt super smooth that year). Also I don't think there will be any new coaster in 2019, as usually there are teasers, and we know Canada's Wonderland and Carowinds are both getting big new coasters, along with maybe Dorney Park as well. My guess is, for 2019, Kings Island will probably get some flat rides or something. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 I have to say this season, Racer is running the best it has been in years. It also constantly leads the park in rider count, so its still doing something right even though the GP isn't exactly thrilled with it anymore. If it had the trims taken off on the turn arounds, it'd be an airtime monster on the return run. I've encountered bits bordering on ejector air on it this season. Now if we could only get the park to repaint it and get the trains to sync better on the lift hills. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 3 hours ago, AZ Kinda Guy said: #RMCTheBeast Get out 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivertown Rider Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I did get to go to Kings Dominion this season and ride Racer '75 which was running very smooth. If they can get our Racer to run that well I think most people will be happy. It does not need RMC'd. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Meyer Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 6 hours ago, McSalsa said: Also I don't think there will be any new coaster in 2019, as usually there are teasers, and we know Canada's Wonderland and Carowinds are both getting big new coasters, along with maybe Dorney Park as well. My guess is, for 2019, Kings Island will probably get some flat rides or something. I would be so happy for Dorney Park if they were to get something new for once instead of some other parks hand me downs. That park has so much potential and it's sad that hardly anyone visits Dorney Park. As for Kings Island, maybe they'll finally get Les Taxi back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyurock Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I would also love to see a Wild Mouse ride at KI. I went to Carowinds and Kings Dominion over July 4th week and really enjoyed the ones they have. Good family attraction that all can enjoy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldschool75 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 On Instagram today the Kings Island PR page followed the trend of letting people ask them questions and they'd answer. One of them asked when the next roller coaster was coming and KI responded "There is still a lot of fun and excitement in front of us for the 2018 season. We'll get to 2019 at a later date! I'll include a screen shot. I can confirm nothing was slipped. The PR department at Kings Island is top notch. It’s just some people reading into it too much. The park just wants you to enjoy what’s going on this season. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 If KI gets a mouse, hopefully they operate it with continuous motion instead of the stacked cars that CF is known for. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastersRZ Posted July 16, 2018 Share Posted July 16, 2018 I agree that some flat rides or a wild mouse would be a great addition to Kings Island. I would love it if they got a flat ride package like Carowinds got a few years ago. Dorney is a great park. I went there about five years ago. I really enjoyed their classic Whip ride. Talon was good as well. Still need to get there with my wife, but that is on our list of places to go. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Meyer Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Anybody ever heard of a ride called Revolution at Dorney Park? I think Kings Island could put one of those type of rides in someday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HandsUp Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Always seemed like that grassy area near the DB, across from the flower clockwould be a great spot for a flat or small coaster like a wild mouse 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 Rumor has it that they were originally going to be an Addams Family themed wild mouse type ride in that area. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 13 minutes ago, teenageninja said: Rumor has it that they were originally going to be an Addams Family themed wild mouse type ride in that area. I had always heard it was going to be similar in nature to Mystery Mine. I wonder if there was ever any substance to any of this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flightoffear1996 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I heard it had something to do with park not being able to secure the Adams Family licensing for the ride. Be interest to see what Cedar Fair would have named it. Graveyard Coaster? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoan Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, HandsUp said: Always seemed like that grassy area near the DB, across from the flower clockwould be a great spot for a flat or small coaster like a wild mouse Bring back antique cars! Or something similar. Down low, so it doesn't mess with sight lines of stunt coaster, or the tower, or DB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teenageninja Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, BoddaH1994 said: I had always heard it was going to be similar in nature to Mystery Mine. I wonder if there was ever any substance to any of this. I had taken a survey that described the ride and had a few concept photos. I can't find any of the photos, but here's the thread from this website in which it was discussed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 I do remember that. Other options were a Spongebob Car Wash and an indoor snow play area. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 1 hour ago, BoddaH1994 said: I do remember that. Other options were a Spongebob Car Wash and an indoor snow play area. Don't forget "Flight of Fear retrofitted into a knock-off Rock N' Roller Coaster featuring MTV theming." Would've loved to have seen how many new lights wouldn't work after two seasons and how the queue would still be showing music videos from circa 2005-07. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 3 hours ago, Gordon Bombay said: Don't forget "Flight of Fear retrofitted into a knock-off Rock N' Roller Coaster featuring MTV theming." Would've loved to have seen how many new lights wouldn't work after two seasons and how the queue would still be showing music videos from circa 2005-07. MTV’s Sound Wave Coaster was the name, I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 ^If memory serves, KD closed theirs down for that conversion right before Cedar Fair purchased the Paramount Parks, then they returned it to running as it has been originally. I also recall a rumor that Paramount was in the works of doing a ride rotation program similar to what SIX did that started with Stealth moving to Carowinds and included either KD's or KI's Flight of Fear and Hypersonic XLC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 4 hours ago, silver2005 said: ^If memory serves, KD closed theirs down for that conversion right before Cedar Fair purchased the Paramount Parks, then they returned it to running as it has been originally. I also recall a rumor that Paramount was in the works of doing a ride rotation program similar to what SIX did that started with Stealth moving to Carowinds and included either KD's or KI's Flight of Fear and Hypersonic XLC. Rumor at the time was that KD’s FOF was going (possibly to Carowinds) and that KI’s might be moved next. I never heard the rumor that the KD one was being closed for the retrofit but anything is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joshua Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 The Addams Family ride, for me, is the biggest "what if" of the Paramount Parks era. Not only do I love those movies, but I grew up with reruns of both The Addams Family and The Munsters, as well as Scooby Doo, Casper, Tales From the Crypt, Amazing Stories, Eerie Indiana, and anything else creepy, kooky, and spooky. Along with movies being my one true addiction, I would have eaten it up. I never quite understood why we never had rides designed after Mission: Impossible and Star Trek, but I guess it's all moot now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRickster Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I wonder if the Addams family and IJST were in the running together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I would love to see something new here for next season. Tilt-a-whirl, second set of flyers? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperial79 Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 Maybe if what is true (is it?) that if the flyers down at Carowinds can't get its permits okayed for next year either, then we can hope for the return of The Flying Eagles brought back to KI? It's probably a long shot. Or they could put in a Wheel of Fortune type ride there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 This is not a KIC admin hint. I ran across this pic when looking for stunt show pics to promote it starting in a few weeks. I would love to see something on this empty pad. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super7 Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 The park definitely needs a few more flat rides like Carowinds got last year. Especially in Oktoberfest which was originally a flat ride area. That area has been lacking anything much for about 20 years...... Screamscape is rumoring Racer retracking and light package. They mentioned that RMC sells topper track which would smooth the ride out. Wishing - if they were really going to remodel that coaster, I wish they would demolish where the turnaround splits out so far, and rebuild it so the trains stay together with some kind of dueling turnoaround. Also wish they would put the last drop back in with a tunnel like Racer 75 and Thunder Road (had). Vortex would be a great coaster if it had a track system by a better manufacturer. Except for that sharp brutal turn around before the break run. I always thought Adventure Express should be extended to have another section with a giant 540 or 900 degree helix at the end and a long tunnel. Remarketed as a Barvarian Mt Railway with winter theming...... Remodeling coasters is a great concept. These parks are maxed out with coasters. Renovating them gives new life and the ability to market a new ride, with lesser of an investment. But lets hope they are willing to spend a few $ on the stinking bathrooms that date back to the 70s......Or renovating I-Street to give it a better sit-and-relax atmosphere like Kings Dominion. The cheap white picnic tables right on the main walkways offering no shade in the daytime are very trashy. These are two major items that keep this park in the B class category at best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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