super7 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 13 hours ago, MDMC01 said: I love this part too! Have you ever ridden a Condor-type ride (they are pretty rare nowadays)? It's pretty much that, but the whole apparatus rises in the air. https://www.hussrides.com/en/classic-rides/condor-2g2gh According to Wikipedia, there are only 3 operating in the United States - one at Great Escape (NY), one at Six Flags Great America, and one at NJFTP (er, Six Flags Great Adventure). I rode the one at Hersheypark before it was removed. The one at Hershey was the best one ever. It was built in top of a hill, so it felt much higher than any others Condor is a great comfortable high capacity flat ride. It’s still manufactured by Huss. The superior (to Endeavour) Enterprise is also still manufactured. There is a version with alternating enclosed gondola (no restraint) and open side by side seating. It’s a shame Sol Spin isn’t one of those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjniehaus Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 On 7/6/2023 at 7:09 AM, MDMC01 said: According to Wikipedia, there are only 3 operating in the United States - one at Great Escape (NY), one at Six Flags Great America, and one at NJFTP (er, Six Flags Great Adventure). I rode the one at Hersheypark before it was removed. I was at Great Adventure last year and I don't ever remember seeing or riding a Condor ride at that park. I have ridden the one at Six Flags Great America and it's an amazing flat ride! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjniehaus Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 On 7/6/2023 at 8:24 PM, super7 said: The superior (to Endeavour) Enterprise is also still manufactured. There is a version with alternating enclosed gondola (no restraint) and open side by side seating. It’s a shame Sol Spin isn’t one of those. What! I had no idea that Huss was still manufacturing Enterprise rides! I checked their website and it's listed amongst their classic rides. Alright Kings Island you might not have been able to get us a real Bisch-rocco flying scooter ride but you could have gotten a real enterprise and you gave us the knock off brand?! My normal park goer side says what the heck I rode sol.spin and I liked it enough and the whole area looks nice but my enthusiast side says you idiots why didn't you do it right and give us the real version of the ride (that is more enjoyable btw) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted July 17, 2023 Author Share Posted July 17, 2023 My suspicion is that since they installed many of their rides in a few parks, they got a deal on a multi ride purchase. With that deal, they were able to give KI the opportunity to get two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaFlyer Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Just now, IndyGuy4KI said: My suspicion is that since they installed many of their rides in a few parks, they got a deal on a multi ride purchase. With that deal, they were able to give KI the opportunity to get two. That, and Huss isn’t exactly the most reliable manufacturer anymore… see: Timber Tower at Dollywood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjniehaus Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 2 hours ago, IndyGuy4KI said: My suspicion is that since they installed many of their rides in a few parks, they got a deal on a multi ride purchase. With that deal, they were able to give KI the opportunity to get two Most likely this is true and understandable and I don't begrudge them at all for the decision. I'm sure they had a budget to stick to... there's a reason nobody will ever hire me for one of those top dog jobs seeing as I'll be throwing money at nostalgic rides all day long 2 hours ago, DeltaFlyer said: That, and Huss isn’t exactly the most reliable manufacturer anymore… see: Timber Tower at Dollywood. Unfortunately it's true that HUSS has made some of the most unique rides out there but they come along with issues. Another example worth mentioning is Sledgehammer at Canadas Wonderland. That ride seems like it has a lot of downtime and whenever I was there had an entire arm closed off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJSkyFoxx Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Maybe I'm in the minority but I vastly prefer Sol Spin over a traditional Enterprise. I enjoy the solo style seating and the freedom it gives quite a bit. And being 12 rides in at this point it still stands as my favorite flat. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDMC01 Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 I actually think I’d now agree. Cargo Loco was my (new) favorite, but Sol Spin is just so different from anything else in the park. Also, I love the drum beat audio track in line. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoan Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 22 hours ago, MDMC01 said: I actually think I’d now agree. Cargo Loco was my (new) favorite, but Sol Spin is just so different from anything else in the park. Also, I love the drum beat audio track in line. You mean the same 5 beats on a 10 second loop? Also as other have mentioned, they really need some thematic old sails put up as a canopy for shade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr0y Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 23 hours ago, DJSkyFoxx said: Maybe I'm in the minority but I vastly prefer Sol Spin over a traditional Enterprise. I enjoy the solo style seating and the freedom it gives quite a bit. And being 12 rides in at this point it still stands as my favorite flat. I do like the open style seating vs the dog crates. However the traditional enterprises are much more forceful, and they don’t have the goose being ran over by a car noise either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenthodge Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 41 minutes ago, Stoan said: You mean the same 5 beats on a 10 second loop? Also as other have mentioned, they really need some thematic old sails put up as a canopy for shade. Agree to that. They have the shade structures in some of the oddest places, but not over the Queues where you are actually standing… in the sun. And no “theme appropriate” old fans stirring the air. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDMC01 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Tr0y said: I do like the open style seating vs the dog crates. However the traditional enterprises are much more forceful, and they don’t have the goose being ran over by a car noise either. If you’re thinking of the long beeping noise the ride makes when it starts up, that noise reminds me of the intro to Skillet’s song “Surviving the Game”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
super7 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 I noticed on busy Friday that the luster seems to be over for these low quality Zamperla rides. The barrels had no line and the endeavour line was about 2 rows in the queue. The older, quality flat rides (monster, troika, wave swinger, frisbee etc) had longer lines than these new rides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTreeBoi1 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 I've never seen Cargo Loco with a line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivertown Rider Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Cargo Loco also has super high capacity so it is similar to Zephyr and Shake, Rattle, and Roll where it clears out the queue every cycle. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion-XL200 Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 I just wish the barrels would spin more or be easier to spin. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted July 23, 2023 Author Share Posted July 23, 2023 10 minutes ago, Orion-XL200 said: I just wish the barrels would spin more or be easier to spin. I sure hope that is going to be an off season to do list item. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenthodge Posted July 23, 2023 Share Posted July 23, 2023 Unofficial confirmation from a top of the heap source that yes, there are still supply chain issues affecting some of the planned effects for Adventure Express. Hopefully more to come. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted July 24, 2023 Author Share Posted July 24, 2023 I was in the last row of the train yesterday. On the tunnel right before the first lift, I looked over to the right and saw the little masks that they put on KI Social before the season started just laying there. I hope with the stuff they are waiting on, they are able to utilize them. I also noticed the exit audio of "always on the right track" was not working yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor.B03 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 19 minutes ago, IndyGuy4KI said: I also noticed the exit audio of "always on the right track" was not working yesterday. Out of every time I've rode it this year, it always is hilarious to me that the original forbidden temple lift sfx works 100% of the time over the brand new stuff. I can count on my hands how many times I have rode it where all sfx worked correctly. I've had it loop *Come in Adventure Express* the whole time up the lift and even after dropping it still played, other times the final sfx doesn't work half the time, sometimes no audio on lift 1 until the very end *stay vigilant, and be careful* plays. It's very broken. I don't even know how in 2023, the old stuff works way better than the new stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUN&ONLY! Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On top of the broken effects during the ride, some of the speakers in Adventure Express’ entrance plaza still don’t work. The audio loop in the queue line is also very quiet, and I am not even sure all the speakers are playing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion-XL200 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 My problem with the audio is I have a really hard time hearing it on the lift. Whether it's my hard hearing or the chain dogs, I'm not sure but it's definitely not loud enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DispatchMaster Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 On 7/23/2023 at 12:15 AM, super7 said: I noticed on busy Friday that the luster seems to be over for these low quality Zamperla rides. The barrels had no line and the endeavour line was about 2 rows in the queue. The older, quality flat rides (monster, troika, wave swinger, frisbee etc) had longer lines than these new rides. Are you familiar with the concept of anecdotal evidence and why it is comically absurd to draw conclusions based on it? Also maybe familiarize yourself with confirmation bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 4 hours ago, DispatchMaster said: Are you familiar with the concept of anecdotal evidence and why it is comically absurd to draw conclusions based on it? Also maybe familiarize yourself with confirmation bias. I think everyone should read those links. It’s easy to fall into the trap of, “The park was dead when I was there so attendance must be down.” - or - “I’m disappointed Orion isn’t 300’ tall so no one is buying tickets to ride it.” We ALL fall into that trap from time to time. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 7 minutes ago, BoddaH1994 said: “I’m disappointed Orion isn’t 300’ tall so no one is buying tickets to ride it." This one's true, tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 34 minutes ago, Gordon Bombay said: This one's true, tho. So is the other one. They’re just EXAMPLES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DispatchMaster Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 No, they're both wrong (though I think Gordon was making a joke). Also, whether or not Ride A has a long wait does not indicate whether or not that ride is more popular than rides that have shorter or nonexistent waits. There are many factors at play, not the least of which is capacity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 11 minutes ago, DispatchMaster said: No, they're both wrong (though I think Gordon was making a joke). I was. But I'm not joking about Orion being a Toyota when Fury and Leviathan are Lexus'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disco2000 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 6 hours ago, BoddaH1994 said: “I’m disappointed Orion isn’t 300’ tall so no one is buying tickets to ride it.” Couldn't someone purchasing a single use front of the line from here be considered purchasing a ticket LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted July 24, 2023 Share Posted July 24, 2023 5 hours ago, DispatchMaster said: No, they're both wrong (though I think Gordon was making a joke). Also, whether or not Ride A has a long wait does not indicate whether or not that ride is more popular than rides that have shorter or nonexistent waits. There are many factors at play, not the least of which is capacity. We were both joking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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