Something is Surfacing 9-19-2024

[SonofBaconator]

 

[IndyGuy4KI]

Finally getting that aquatrax coaster? 

[silver2005]

^Or the flying coaster that has an underwater tunnel in Lake Erie. 

[Kenban]

Likely just a new attraction for the water park.  I know some slides were removed earlier this year.  If I remember correctly the last time something was added to the water park was when it was renamed in 2016 or 2017?

[Orion-XL200]

I have heard, though cannot confirm, that they are adding a copy of RiverRacers.

[Orion742]

44 minutes ago, Orion-XL200 said:

I have heard, though cannot confirm, that they are adding a copy of RiverRacers.

I highly doubt that. Maybe in 2026 but I really don’t see CP and KI getting the same ride when KI is marketing it as Ohio’s first racing water coaster. It’s like if both of them added Top Thrill 2 in the same year and they both said the worlds’s tallest and fastest triple launch strata coaster. It doesn’t make sense to add the same ride in the same year when they’re only 3 hours away. 

[SmartCat7162]

I have heard, though cannot confirm, that they are adding a copy of RiverRacers.

I was thinking not the exact same model, but a package deal from the manufacturer possibly.


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[Kenban]

A water coaster, but not a clone is possible.  Kings Island has said it will be the first and only dual water coaster in the state.  If Cedar Point gets one that is a single slide and it opens after the one at Kings Island, then the marketing is still accurate.

[Tr0y]

3 hours ago, Kenban said:

A water coaster, but not a clone is possible.  Kings Island has said it will be the first and only dual water coaster in the state.  If Cedar Point gets one that is a single slide and it opens after the one at Kings Island, then the marketing is still accurate.

Whatever they’re getting it will probably break a record. 

[DispatchMaster]

"Ohio's northernmost water coaster!!!"

[DJSkyFoxx]

Triple-launch water coaster 

[IndyGuy4KI]

1 hour ago, DJSkyFoxx said:

Triple-launch water coaster 

Can we get word on the manufacturer so we know where to set our expectations? 

[IBEW_Sparky]

7 hours ago, DJSkyFoxx said:

Triple-launch water coaster 

That only runs for 5 days 

[DJSkyFoxx]

21 hours ago, IndyGuy4KI said:

Can we get word on the manufacturer so we know where to set our expectations? 

The rumor is that they are going to tear down all of the Backlot Stunt Coasters and use their tracks since they held up so well with the water effects  so old Premier it is!

[kingsislandfan1972]

On 9/17/2024 at 7:55 AM, DispatchMaster said:

"Ohio's northernmost water coaster!!!"

I got a laugh out of this! 

[CoastersRZ]

Siren`s Curse: Vekoma Tilt Coaster

https://www.cedarpoint.com/new-in-2025?fbclid=IwY2xjawFY0uRleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHbYPgqBPgF5zQeW1mZw9dou1qmEsQ4K8ri744pL9ABgwAYpgdFxFyG-glQ_aem_PigBOoup28Xi2oA0BFQ1ug

[SonofBaconator]

1 hour ago, CoastersRZ said:

Siren`s Curse: Vekoma Tilt Coaster

https://www.cedarpoint.com/new-in-2025?fbclid=IwY2xjawFY0uRleHRuA2FlbQIxMAABHbYPgqBPgF5zQeW1mZw9dou1qmEsQ4K8ri744pL9ABgwAYpgdFxFyG-glQ_aem_PigBOoup28Xi2oA0BFQ1ug

A few things:

1. Holy crap that came out of nowhere
2. Impressive that CP is getting a “large scale” Vekoma
3. Good use of space but it’s weird that its right next to an existing dive coaster that more or less does the same thing minus the tilt track.
4. Looks like the trains will be lit, change color, and feature onboard sound
5. 3 coasters back to back to back is crazy. Granted the first was a family coaster, the second was a modification, and the 3rd was a thrill coaster but still.
6. Seems kind of a “small” addition for CP in terms of capacity- at least that’s according to RCDB.

[johnjniehaus]

Thoughts -

The Good

1. Looks like a really fun ride actually 

2. Love to see a modern Vekoma going into CP

3. Love to see them cramming it into that space by iron Dragon (I'm surprised it isn't going into the Snake River falls plot)

 

The Bad

1. Two train ops? For CP that's bad for a new ride

2. Why are they building a tilt coaster next to a dive coaster that has sort of the same purpose in the lineup?

3. That section by Iron Dragon is always packed as it is. Hopefully they consider that and have a good walkway design. 

 

The Ugly 

1. Why on earth does CP get 3 rollercoasters back to back to back years? That seems a little ridiculous when parks like valleyfair and Michigan's Adventure have been waiting for over 10 years for a new coaster. 

2. I thought after SSBR, we'd see the next Vekoma come to KI. Was KI the vekoma experiment so that CP could benefit from another major addition while we get stuck with Mike's budget blasters? 

3. Not saying Vekoma tilt is my first pick for The Vortex plot but why on earth does CP get this after receiving two coasters back to back years while KI has been waiting nearly 5 years for them to fill that gaping hole at the end of Coney Mall???

 

This kinda came out of nowhere for me as I was expecting snake River falls to be replaced either next season or in 2026. I'm going to go up there next year, ride siren's curse (which I actually love the name and logo), I'm going to love having a vekoma tilt within a days drive or Cincinnati, and at the end of the day CP is one of my favorite parks and this ride is going to make it so much better. Hopefully they get TT2 up next season as well and if they do essentially having two new coasters will make 2025 one of the biggest, wildest seasons CP has ever seen. 

Having said all that I'm still upset by the fact arguably the best park in the combined six flags chain is getting another rollercoaster when they just got wild Mouse and TT2 and I would have thought their time and resources would be exhausted after TT2 and all the follow up issues. CP doesn't need a new coaster next year IF TT2 actually does reopen as a reliable attraction. Meanwhile you have KI still waiting for a Vortex replacement. I'm thinking about how great this coaster would have been had it gone to valleyfair. The two train ops wouldn't be an issue, VF needs a modern looping coaster, and it would be the first coaster they've received in MANY MANY YEARS! not like they just got new coasters in 2023 and 2024...

[silver2005]

Why another red coaster?  There are other colors you know, Cedar Point.

[DiamondbackFan]

8 minutes ago, johnjniehaus said:

Having said all that I'm still upset by the fact arguably the best park in the combined six flags chain is getting another rollercoaster when they just got wild Mouse and TT2 and I would have thought their time and resources would be exhausted after TT2 and all the follow up issues. CP doesn't need a new coaster next year IF TT2 actually does reopen as a reliable attraction. Meanwhile you have KI still waiting for a Vortex replacement. I'm thinking about how great this coaster would have been had it gone to valleyfair. The two train ops wouldn't be an issue, VF needs a modern looping coaster, and it would be the first coaster they've received in MANY MANY YEARS! not like they just got new coasters in 2023 and 2024...

This is the project Six Flags Mexico planned to build for 2025 before running into resistance from the local government.  Cedar Point had a flat piece of land available and could use something to distract from the TT2 issues.

 

[Tr0y]

9 minutes ago, johnjniehaus said:

 

1. Why on earth does CP get 3 rollercoasters back to back to back years? That seems a little ridiculous when parks like valleyfair and Michigan's Adventure have been waiting for over 10 years for a new coaster. 

2. I thought after SSBR, we'd see the next Vekoma come to KI. Was KI the vekoma experiment so that CP could benefit from another major addition while we get stuck with Mike's budget blasters? 

3. Not saying Vekoma tilt is my first pick for The Vortex plot but why on earth does CP get this after receiving two coasters back to back years while KI has been waiting nearly 5 years for them to fill that gaping hole at the end of Coney Mall???

Because CP is a destination park with 5 hotels which makes the chain millions of dollars. 
 

Gotta keep those rooms booked.

[DispatchMaster]

29 minutes ago, johnjniehaus said:

2. Why are they building a tilt coaster next to a dive coaster that has sort of the same purpose in the lineup?

Because normal people, who make up ~95% of the park's guests, could not care less that these rides both have vertical drops. This is just not something normal, sane folks concern themselves with.

32 minutes ago, johnjniehaus said:

That seems a little ridiculous when parks like valleyfair and Michigan's Adventure have been waiting...

Michigan's Adventure is doing gangbusters business, so no need to make the same level of investment there.

33 minutes ago, johnjniehaus said:

Not saying Vekoma tilt is my first pick for The Vortex plot but why on earth does CP get this after receiving two coasters back to back years while KI has been waiting nearly 5

Looking at the layout, Siren's Curse appears to be a design that was destined for somewhere else, and when that fell through, was rerouted to CP, since they have a flat, unused plot of land. If I'm KI, given the choice between a shoehorned installation of an existing design and a custom-designed B&M Dive (or whatever), I'd choose the custom design 100 times out of 100.

[disco2000]

From the press release on TT2 - Top Thrill 2 will not reopen in 2024 and we anticipate a 2025 reopening.

The key word is anticipate  

What other ride announcement uses the word anticipate to describe when it is opening?    Doesn't instill confidence to me that they are confident it will open...

Siren's Curse says Siren's Curse is set to lure its riders in 2025. Not anticipate, not maybe, not probably, but it is set to lure its riders in 2025.  I guess one could argue set is ambiguous as well LOL.

So they wanted to have a new attraction in the event the TT2 anticipate turns into "not opening"....  

Either that or take a page out of the KI playback and run one of their racing trains backwards 

And yeah, I know all about how long it takes to plan a capital improvement and blah, blah, blah, but if you got a design sitting on the shelf (or a stock model that can be bough quickly) and a piece of land to put it on and a to-date failure of a re-imagined ride, that is how things like this (and to some extent Adventure Port) happened....

If TT2 was open all year, what is the likelihood they get this coaster?

And then if for some reason they are able to make TT2 reliable and open, it is an added bonus for the park...

[disco2000]

3 minutes ago, DispatchMaster said:

If I'm KI, given the choice between a shoehorned installation of an existing design and a custom-designed B&M Dive (or whatever), I'd choose the custom design 100 times out of 100.

 

Many wish that was the case with the giga KI got.... 

[DJSkyFoxx]

OK first of all, call me a Vekoma-fan boi all you want, but I am STOKED to see a larger scale new age Vekoma make its way state side. Even if it was meant to go somewhere else, I could care less. I LOVE the theming. I've been enjoying the darker-omen type theming and names that Cedar Fair has been going with. Really can't wait to see what merch they come out with for this one. 

I will say that it does feel just a tad overwhelming that they had TT2 purposed to open this year and it fell incredibly short of that expectation and will essentially still be a brand new ride for next year seeing as only a handful of people in the grand scheme of things were able to ride it this year. It will be interesting to see how they market the coasters next year seeing as they will have essentially TWO new headliners for 2025 so long as TT2 gets it s*** together. 

The lower capacity will absolutely be a nightmare, lets be real. This isn't a capacity monster by any stretch of the word and CP's ops have been dismal the last few years so I don't hold out any hope that lines will move quickly. I also wonder if FL+ will have its own que or if they will in typical CP fashion with most of their coasters have it bypass 3/4 of the line just to merge with the main standby line. 

Regardless, there are absolutely no complaints here from me. This looks like a fantastically fun ride with incredible theming and I am here for it. I feel like a little kid on Christmas morning waking up to this announcement!

Now this makes me feel like the possibility of a Vekoma looper taking Vortex's plot is more possible. I know this really doesn't indicate anything, but since CF is actively working with Vekoma it makes me hopeful that KI's next big coaster could be one of their incredible new loopers. 

[DispatchMaster]

26 minutes ago, disco2000 said:

it is set to lure its riders in 2025.  I guess one could argue set is ambiguous as well

It is ambiguous. An unambiguous way to phrase it would be "...will lure riders...".

16 minutes ago, DJSkyFoxx said:

I also wonder if FL+ will have its own que or if they will in typical CP fashion with most of their coasters have it bypass 3/4 of the line just to merge with the main standby line. 

Based on the renders, the FL queue ("que" is Spanish for "that") bypasses the standby queue and merges at the station. Though hopefully they will throttle the FL queue substantially so as to minimize the pain due to the ride's apparent low capacity.

[DJSkyFoxx]

16 minutes ago, DispatchMaster said:

It is ambiguous. An unambiguous way to phrase it would be "...will lure riders...".

Based on the renders, the FL queue ("que" is Spanish for "that") bypasses the standby queue and merges at the station. Though hopefully they will throttle the FL queue substantially so as to minimize the pain due to the ride's apparent low capacity.

Lazy typing on my part on my phone and I own that. But seriously? It ain't that deep lol

[SmartCat7162]

It said opening summer of 2025, so it won't open with the park. Especially since no footers or anything have been poured. It also looked like their was a tunnel in the video rendering.

[SmartCat7162]

Also reading on Reddit the history of this ride is funny. It appears that at first it was meant for energylandia and then six flags Mexico picked it up and now it’s at Cedar Point.


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[jbeast]

Interesting addition to CP's lineup that I did not see coming. It'll definitely be a fun coaster to enjoy with my pass next year! Now, let's get that big wide open old Vortex spot some love with an amazing and quality coater installment too! It has been empty too long now!