rlentless Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 I wonder if they could move the drone pad to one of the grassy areas behind ET next to either BLC or Diamonback. The obvious problem with that is they would have to put up a large fence around them to look at. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medford Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 If Coney mall did a get a big revamp, it would likely include a bunch of the Carnival type games and maybe the arcade. Anyone have any insight into how much revenue is generated at the arcade and carnival games? Seems like both are usually pretty quit, though I suspect the upkeep and maintenance, especially on the carnival games is pretty low. Since both of these are often staples at other parks, how could KI incorporate those better? Would a sit down dining area be worthwhile in this area? Already have the BBQ place not to mention the diner, skyline, etc... Could flats be added in place of some of the games? Coney seems to have stayed largely the same since the parks opening, with slight changes every few years that bleed over thru the memory of time and keeps the area "same as it ever was" even if the changes and updates are indeed happening. Vortex was the last big thing to really hit that walkway (though one could argue the stunt coaster invades on the ambiance) in 30+ years. A Vortex replacement would be the perfect opportunity for a huge facelift across the entire coney main street. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodVengeance Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 55 minutes ago, medford said: Vortex was the last big thing to really hit that walkway (though one could argue the stunt coaster invades on the ambiance) in 30+ years. A Vortex replacement would be the perfect opportunity for a huge facelift across the entire coney main street. Although it isn't technically a Coney Mall addition, I would argue Orion's prescence behind The Racer has impacted Coney Mall quite a lot, especially towards the back of the midway where if you're walking in by BLSC and Jukebox Diner, the lift hill is right there in your face. But if we're counting just Coney Mall attractions, I would say the biggest changes to that area in recent years were mainly Vortex getting removed, KMAA and the repaint of Racer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjniehaus Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Coney Mall is one of my personal favorite sections of the park and I of course want a very special coaster to take plot formerly occupied by Vortex. While I know the park would never do it, I'd totally go for a rebranding of the area back to "Old Coney". Put a skyride down the middle of the mall and add another classic flat (Trabaunt please!) and maybe a Ferris Wheel (I still say someone needs to revive those double and triple wheels) Then have a Mack or Vekoma in The Vortex plot with retro vibes and elements. That boomerang element near the walkway is an absolute must to pay tribute to The Vortex. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medford Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 2 hours ago, WoodVengeance said: Although it isn't technically a Coney Mall addition, I would argue Orion's prescence behind The Racer has impacted Coney Mall quite a lot, especially towards the back of the midway where if you're walking in by BLSC and Jukebox Diner, the lift hill is right there in your face. But if we're counting just Coney Mall attractions, I would say the biggest changes to that area in recent years were mainly Vortex getting removed, KMAA and the repaint of Racer. I thought about including Orion, because as you say, it def changed the skyline (Dinosaurs Alive didn't change the skyline but its entrance was a part of Coney for a bit). However, I was thinking more along the feel of the Coney Mall strip/street. Lots of subtle changes like the addition of the BBQ restaurant, repainting of The Racers, lighting packages for Monster, Scrambler and Shake Rattle and Roll, but all the changes have been relatively small (even the addition/subtraction of rides like Flight Commander in the grand scheme. The addition of Vortex and the subtraction of Vortex is pretty much it as far as big changes go, at least that I can think of to the feel of Coney. WindSeeker looms over the place, but sits at the end, kind of tucked away and doesn't really feel like part of Coney to me (kind of like Days of thunder and Flight of Fear never did/have. It feels like its always been leave Oktoberfest, pass under the Coney Sign (why get rid of that?) racers on the left, retail on the right. Food establishments then flats then games (arcade or other wise) followed by flats, food establishments and Vortex. Kind of a roller coaster sandwich. A new, crowd drawing roller coaster (Vortex became too violent for many, including myself in his later days, though i still adored it) could be the spring board to a big change for the area. Lots of flats or a new restaurant, different, modern games that feel like they draw crowds in, etc... I guess my hope, is that there may become a describable image in our head of what Coney meant/feel like. A time during Vortex and a time post Vortex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmartCat7162 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 16 minutes ago, medford said: It feels like its always been leave Oktoberfest, pass under the Coney Sign (why get rid of that? Does anyone know when that sign disappeared was it due to construction and just never put back or one season was it just gone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastfan11 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 16 minutes ago, SmartCat7162 said: Does anyone know when that sign disappeared was it due to construction and just never put back or one season was it just gone? Can’t confirm, but I remember reading here that it was a result of parade floats not being able to pass under. Lame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodVengeance Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Going back on-topic to what kind of ride I could see going in The Vortex plot, I find it interesting that out of all the Six Flags parks that have put out surveys over the past several months, Kings Island was the only park that I'm aware of that put out two different surveys as opposed to just one. Interestingly, the second survey had an option for a 10-inversion Infinity coaster that I believe did not appear on any surveys from the other parks. I think a Gerstlauer Infinity on The Vortex plot would fit pretty nicely there, though if Kings Island wanted to get something more unique while also delivering a similar ride experience to that of an Infinity coaster, I feel a Mack Stryker would be an absolutely incredible fit for that plot of land. It would be the first-of-its-kind in North America and the park could still go for 10 inversions if they wanted to. However, it would likely be more expensive compared to a Gerstlauer Infinity so I could see the park continue to go in that direction if they don't want to spend $25+ million on a Mack Stryker. Whatever the case, I hope we'll get our answer soon if the park indeed is planning to put something in that plot for 2026 so we can put these kinds of discussions behind us. Though I'm aware speculation like this won't end with The Vortex replacement and there will continue to be speculation for future additions even beyond that, like Action Zone for example. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 Haunt still has a couple more weekends left and Winterfest hasn't even started yet and I'm already looking forward to opening day next year and (fingers crossed) the kickoff of Decoding 2026! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoasterJack Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 1 hour ago, WoodVengeance said: Going back on-topic to what kind of ride I could see going in The Vortex plot, I find it interesting that out of all the Six Flags parks that have put out surveys over the past several months, Kings Island was the only park that I'm aware of that put out two different surveys as opposed to just one. Interestingly, the second survey had an option for a 10-inversion Infinity coaster that I believe did not appear on any surveys from the other parks. I think a Gerstlauer Infinity on The Vortex plot would fit pretty nicely there, though if Kings Island wanted to get something more unique while also delivering a similar ride experience to that of an Infinity coaster, I feel a Mack Stryker would be an absolutely incredible fit for that plot of land. It would be the first-of-its-kind in North America and the park could still go for 10 inversions if they wanted to. However, it would likely be more expensive compared to a Gerstlauer Infinity so I could see the park continue to go in that direction if they don't want to spend $25+ million on a Mack Stryker. Whatever the case, I hope we'll get our answer soon if the park indeed is planning to put something in that plot for 2026 so we can put these kinds of discussions behind us. Though I'm aware speculation like this won't end with The Vortex replacement and there will continue to be speculation for future additions even beyond that, like Action Zone for example. Something even similar to Voltron but themed to something retro with a Batwing near the path sounds like a dream come true 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion742 Posted October 22 Share Posted October 22 3 hours ago, WoodVengeance said: Going back on-topic to what kind of ride I could see going in The Vortex plot, I find it interesting that out of all the Six Flags parks that have put out surveys over the past several months, Kings Island was the only park that I'm aware of that put out two different surveys as opposed to just one. Interestingly, the second survey had an option for a 10-inversion Infinity coaster that I believe did not appear on any surveys from the other parks. I think a Gerstlauer Infinity on The Vortex plot would fit pretty nicely there, though if Kings Island wanted to get something more unique while also delivering a similar ride experience to that of an Infinity coaster, I feel a Mack Stryker would be an absolutely incredible fit for that plot of land. It would be the first-of-its-kind in North America and the park could still go for 10 inversions if they wanted to. However, it would likely be more expensive compared to a Gerstlauer Infinity so I could see the park continue to go in that direction if they don't want to spend $25+ million on a Mack Stryker. Whatever the case, I hope we'll get our answer soon if the park indeed is planning to put something in that plot for 2026 so we can put these kinds of discussions behind us. Though I'm aware speculation like this won't end with The Vortex replacement and there will continue to be speculation for future additions even beyond that, like Action Zone for example. A 10 inversion Mack Stryker coaster would be insane. I also believe it would be a perfect fit for KI and The Vortex plot of land. It would give us another coaster with inversions that we really need and a modern launch coaster. Personally I believe we need a signature standout top 10 worthy coaster (our Fury 325 or our Steel Vengeance for example). I think a Mack Stryker coaster would be that elite coaster we need. The way Orion preformed costing $30 million I don’t think the park should be afraid to spend if that means getting an elite coaster. Also I can’t confirm this because it is a rumor but I’ve heard CF spent $50 million on TT2 so maybe they’re not concerned about the price If it means they’ll see a return on investment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion-XL200 Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 23 hours ago, Tr0y said: Markers found so far in Coney Mall or adjacent area (marked by red dot): Thanks for doing this! While I enjoy the close perspective photos with description, I really like seeing it overhead where you've found these. As @disco2000 said, maybe new bars? Could the markers be where site lines are surveyed? Are there any near/around I-Street at all? 7 hours ago, johnjniehaus said: Coney Mall is one of my personal favorite sections of the park and I of course want a very special coaster to take plot formerly occupied by Vortex. While I know the park would never do it, I'd totally go for a rebranding of the area back to "Old Coney". Put a skyride down the middle of the mall and add another classic flat (Trabaunt please!) and maybe a Ferris Wheel (I still say someone needs to revive those double and triple wheels) Then have a Mack or Vekoma in The Vortex plot with retro vibes and elements. That boomerang element near the walkway is an absolute must to pay tribute to The Vortex. Coney is one of my favorite areas of the 2 big Ohio parks. The only thing I really don't like is where Killmart is, leading to the back of Windeseeker/Action Theater. It just feels dull once you pass Zephyr. Yeah KMAA opened the area a bit more, I don't feel like there's a spectacle in terms of what we see. The Killmart building IMO needs refreshed/brightened or razed, a new record breaking coaster (that provides midway excitement) plopped in Vortex's former home, the WindSeeker Plaza (in front of and behind) needs refreshed to be more welcoming and open. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodVengeance Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 I would also still love to see a Mack Extreme Spinner come to The Vortex plot as well, though I am concerned if a portion of the general public is put off by a spinning coaster, especially one that has launches and inversions. If the park is looking at Mack for their next coaster, then I think it would be safer to build a Mack Stryker and market it as a first-of-its-kind coaster in North America and the most inversions of any coaster in North America (10). If Cedar Point really wants to, they could build a Mack Extreme Spinner for themselves, that way it's a win-win for both Ohio parks. Though I do admit a lot of this is just wishful thinking. For all we know, it might not even be a Mack and it could be a Gerstlauer or B&M. Heck, we might not even get a new coaster in 2026, we'll just have to wait and see how things play out over the next several months. I imagine we'll know pretty early in the 2025 season if there's a coaster coming in 2026 by means of land clearing, blueprints or anything else of the sort. Also, I'm probably going to make a coaster concept for The Vortex plot over the next several days, and it will likely be my last concept for that plot. (which I've done several of over the past five years, so I'll be sure to give my best effort for this final concept) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion742 Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 25 minutes ago, WoodVengeance said: I would also still love to see a Mack Extreme Spinner come to The Vortex plot as well, though I am concerned if a portion of the general public is put off by a spinning coaster, especially one that has launches and inversions. If the park is looking at Mack for their next coaster, then I think it would be safer to build a Mack Stryker and market it as a first-of-its-kind coaster in North America and the most inversions of any coaster in North America (10). If Cedar Point really wants to, they could build a Mack Extreme Spinner for themselves, that way it's a win-win for both Ohio parks. Though I do admit a lot of this is just wishful thinking. For all we know, it might not even be a Mack and it could be a Gerstlauer or B&M. Heck, we might not even get a new coaster in 2026, we'll just have to wait and see how things play out over the next several months. I imagine we'll know pretty early in the 2025 season if there's a coaster coming in 2026 by means of land clearing, blueprints or anything else of the sort. Also, I'm probably going to make a coaster concept for The Vortex plot over the next several days, and it will likely be my last concept for that plot. (which I've done several of over the past five years, so I'll be sure to give my best effort for this final concept) I agree. Personally I’d rather see a Mack Xtreme spinner but that’s unlikely considering the guests might not enjoy the spinning aspect. And Mike Koontz may not be a fan of it as well. A Mack Stryker is my #2 choice and I think makes more sense for KI overall than an Xtreme spinner. I think they could easily make it very different experience from Maverick 3 hours north. Time will tell. I’m very intrigued to see what this off-season has in store for us. Also I know being able to run a new coaster during WinterFest would be huge for the park. Mack coasters and the Stryker coaster can run in lower temperatures and especially if they keep it low to the ground. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodVengeance Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 1 minute ago, Orion742 said: I agree. Personally I’d rather see a Mack Xtreme spinner but that’s unlikely considering the guests might not enjoy the spinning aspect. And Mike Koontz may not be a fan of it as well. A Mack Stryker is my #2 choice and I think makes more sense for KI overall than an Xtreme spinner. I think they could easily make it very different experience from Maverick 3 hours north. Time will tell. I’m very intrigued to see what this off-season has in store for us. Also I know being able to run a new coaster during WinterFest would be huge for the park. Mack coasters and the Stryker coaster can run in lower temperatures and especially if they keep it low to the ground. I believe Carowinds runs Copperhead Strike during Winterfest from what I've seen online. However, it is in a different climate so not sure if that would apply here if we were to get a Mack. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion742 Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 16 hours ago, Orion742 said: A 10 inversion Mack Stryker coaster would be insane. I also believe it would be a perfect fit for KI and The Vortex plot of land. It would give us another coaster with inversions that we really need and a modern launch coaster. Personally I believe we need a signature standout top 10 worthy coaster (our Fury 325 or our Steel Vengeance for example). I think a Mack Stryker coaster would be that elite coaster we need. The way Orion preformed costing $30 million I don’t think the park should be afraid to spend if that means getting an elite coaster. Also I can’t confirm this because it is a rumor but I’ve heard CF spent $50 million on TT2 so maybe they’re not concerned about the price If it means they’ll see a return on investment. Also I wanted to point out, it wouldn’t be as hard as you think to make a 10 inversion Mack Stryker coaster. Let’s take a look at Voltron, it already has 7 inversions. It has a non inverted Immelmann. If you change that to a regular Immelmann that’s inversion number 8. It also has a top hat. If you change that into an inverted top hat that’s inversion number 9. There is also an over bank turn. If that is rotated a bit more it can turn into a cutback making 10 inversions. 12 hours ago, WoodVengeance said: I believe Carowinds runs Copperhead Strike during Winterfest from what I've seen online. However, it is in a different climate so not sure if that would apply here if we were to get a Mack. I believe Mack’s temperature requirement for their launch coasters just like Intamin’s is rather low. In the single digits. The biggest concern is not about temperatures it’s about if the trains will valley throughout the course. Keeping it low to the ground just like Voltron would make low temperature operations possible. That’s also the reason Mystic Timbers runs during WinterFest. Another concern would be off-season maintenance. If they can take about half the amount of trains off for WinterFest I think it would still be able to run successfully. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodVengeance Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 19 minutes ago, Orion742 said: Also I wanted to point out, it wouldn’t be as hard as you think to make a 10 inversion Mack Stryker coaster. Let’s take a look at Voltron, it already has 7 inversions. It has a non inverted Immelmann. If you change that to a regular Immelmann that’s inversion number 8. It also has a top hat. If you change that into an inverted top hat that’s inversion number 9. There is also an over bank turn. If that is rotated a bit more it can turn into a cutback making 10 inversions. I believe Mack’s temperature requirement for their launch coasters just like Intamin’s is rather low. In the single digits. The biggest concern is not about temperatures it’s about if the trains will valley throughout the course. Keeping it low to the ground just like Voltron would make low temperature operations possible. That’s also the reason Mystic Timbers runs during WinterFest. Another concern would be off-season maintenance. If they can take about half the amount of trains off for WinterFest I think it would still be able to run successfully. The way I look at it is that the Mack Stryker was developed to be Mack's take on a Gerstlauer Infinity. If they can do 14 inversions on a Gerstlauer Infinity, then it shouldn't be difficult to do 10 on a Mack Stryker. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 3 hours ago, WoodVengeance said: The way I look at it is that the Mack Stryker was developed to be Mack's take on a Gerstlauer Infinity. If they can do 14 inversions on a Gerstlauer Infinity, then it shouldn't be difficult to do 10 on a Mack Stryker. The current President and GM of KI has a stated goal of making KI family friendly. I don't know that a 10 inversion coaster would be seen as such in the eyes of the current administration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodVengeance Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 5 minutes ago, BeeastFarmer said: The current President and GM of KI has a stated goal of making KI family friendly. I don't know that a 10 inversion coaster would be seen as such in the eyes of the current administration. The park is currently going three years in a row of adding new family attractions to Adventure Port, Camp Snoopy and next year with Soak City. When the park stated they are going to make the park family friendly, I don't think that means they're going to completely alienate the thrill market entirely. After all, the reason I'm even talking about a 10-inversion coaster for Kings Island is because the park itself did include it as an option on one of their surveys. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 1 minute ago, WoodVengeance said: The park is currently going three years in a row of adding new family attractions to Adventure Port, Camp Snoopy and next year with Soak City. When the park stated they are going to make the park family friendly, I don't think that means they're going to completely alienate the thrill market entirely. After all, the reason I'm even talking about a 10-inversion coaster for Kings Island is because the park itself did include it as an option on one of their surveys. I mean, Orion is designed a family friendly coaster pet the GM/VP. Haunt is family friendly. Everything he has done in recent years, besides all of this years bars, is family friendly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodVengeance Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 6 minutes ago, BeeastFarmer said: I mean, Orion is designed a family friendly coaster pet the GM/VP. Haunt is family friendly. Everything he has done in recent years, besides all of this years bars, is family friendly. So if we were to enter this mindset for our next major coaster, thrill coasters should still be on the table if he considers Orion to be a family-friendly addition. Would that make it more likely that we could see another B&M since the rides they put out are more on the graceful side? Or perhaps a Vekoma launch coaster since those have a lower height requirement (A.K.A. more family friendly). We'll probably just have to wait and see what happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr0y Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 1 hour ago, WoodVengeance said: So if we were to enter this mindset for our next major coaster, thrill coasters should still be on the table if he considers Orion to be a family-friendly addition. Would that make it more likely that we could see another B&M since the rides they put out are more on the graceful side? Or perhaps a Vekoma launch coaster since those have a lower height requirement (A.K.A. more family friendly). We'll probably just have to wait and see what happens. Diet Coke version of whatever the majority of people put down in the surveys emailed out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 2 hours ago, WoodVengeance said: So if we were to enter this mindset for our next major coaster, thrill coasters should still be on the table if he considers Orion to be a family-friendly addition. Would that make it more likely that we could see another B&M since the rides they put out are more on the graceful side? Or perhaps a Vekoma launch coaster since those have a lower height requirement (A.K.A. more family friendly). We'll probably just have to wait and see what happens. It will be interesting to see what happens. I'd say everything is up in the air with all the realignment going on in the merged company. Perhaps Six Flags Kings Island wants to reel in business from the Koch and Herschend families and make ki a thrill capitol. Perhaps Mike K retires, is reassigned to another park, or is let go. Would the family park focus go away with him? Kings Island is now competing with several other "flagship" parks in the chain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beastfan11 Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 (edited) Cracking up at the fact that the park “thinks” the massive steel coaster with a 300ft drop is family friendly. Family attractions may be a focus, but I’m sure thrilling coasters are on the horizon! Edited October 23 by beastfan11 Edited for specificity! Orion is a thrill machine! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodVengeance Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 16 minutes ago, BeeastFarmer said: It will be interesting to see what happens. I'd say everything is up in the air with all the realignment going on in the merged company. Perhaps Six Flags Kings Island wants to reel in business from the Koch and Herschend families and make ki a thrill capitol. Perhaps Mike K retires, is reassigned to another park, or is let go. Would the family park focus go away with him? Kings Island is now competing with several other "flagship" parks in the chain. I imagine Cedar Point will still be the favorite child of the Ohio parks. It's also worth noting Six Flags Great America is only about 5 hours away from Kings Island (6 if you want to factor in Chicago traffic) and that's now a park in our chain too. It's too early to say which of the two will get the most investments between Kings Island and Great America. 15 minutes ago, beastfan11 said: Cracking up at the fact that people think the massive steel coaster with a 300ft drop is family friendly. Apparently it was brought up in a recent Tower Topics that Mike Koontz wanted Orion to appeal to families, hence the reason for the smaller stats. I can't confirm it personally but if it is true, I really have no idea what he was thinking with that. Giga coasters are supposed to be some of the most thrilling coasters out there and to try and turn one into a family coaster just seems like the wrong way to go about it. They can minimize the height or length as much as they want, at the end of the day it still has a 54 inch height requirement. Again, this is not confirmed to be the reasoning and I still think Orion is a great ride, but it is a baffling thought. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted October 23 Share Posted October 23 8 minutes ago, WoodVengeance said: I imagine Cedar Point will still be the favorite child of the Ohio parks. It's also worth noting Six Flags Great America is only about 5 hours away from Kings Island (6 if you want to factor in Chicago traffic) and that's now a park in our chain too. It's too early to say which of the two will get the most investments between Kings Island and Great America. Apparently it was brought up in a recent Tower Topics that apparently Mike Koontz wanted Orion to appeal to families, hence the reason for the smaller stats. I can't confirm it personally but if it is true, I really have no idea what he was thinking with that. Giga coasters are supposed to be some of the most thrilling coasters out there and to try and turn one into a family coaster just seems like the wrong way to go about it. They can minimize the height or length as much as they want, at the end of the day it still has a 54 inch height requirement. And Great Adventure is on the horizon as well. (Side note...in the best of all possible worlds, the Six Flags parks could be brought up to (former) Cedar Fair standards, hopefully before all the budget cuts) Orion-family friendly...I believe this was in @KIghostguy's book..Kings Island: A Ride Through Time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tr0y Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 hours ago, BeeastFarmer said: It will be interesting to see what happens. I'd say everything is up in the air with all the realignment going on in the merged company. Perhaps Six Flags Kings Island wants to reel in business from the Koch and Herschend families and make ki a thrill capitol. Perhaps Mike K retires, is reassigned to another park, or is let go. Would the family park focus go away with him? Kings Island is now competing with several other "flagship" parks in the chain. I'm sure Holiday World (Koch) is concerned about a 530ft water coaster going into Soak City next season. Especially after Good Gravy outperformed KI's SSBR in the golden ticket awards. Dollywood (Herschend) is still sitting at the top of best kids' area; KI however went down in the Golden Ticket Awards even after investing over 7millon into its kids' area. To Mike's Credit, the coasters people want are being installed at the park. However, there is a disconnect with what people want and the expectation with it versus what the park is putting out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeastFarmer Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 ^ Good point about Dollywood, I was referring to Kentucky Kingdom Theme and Water Park. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonHelbig Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 There is a grass area behind the Crypt building where Coasterstock participants were taking to get behind-the-scenes photos of Diamondback that would be a possible spot to relocate where the drones launch from, if they continue to use drones in 2025 and beyond. It's only a couple hundred feet from the current location. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnjniehaus Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 3 minutes ago, DonHelbig said: There is a grass area behind the Crypt building where Coasterstock participants were taking to get behind-the-scenes photos of Diamondback that would be a possible spot to relocate where the drones launch from, if they continue to use drones in 2025 and beyond. It's only a couple hundred feet from the current location. Great Point, Don. 18 hours ago, WoodVengeance said: So if we were to enter this mindset for our next major coaster, thrill coasters should still be on the table if he considers Orion to be a family-friendly addition. Would that make it more likely that we could see another B&M since the rides they put out are more on the graceful side? Or perhaps a Vekoma launch coaster since those have a lower height requirement (A.K.A. more family friendly). We'll probably just have to wait and see what happens. I want a coaster that is the perfect balance between being thrilling enough that a real coaster enthusiast is going to love it but also has a lower height requirement and is appealing to the GP and a younger audience. Vortex is the coaster we are talking about replacing here and it had a 48" height requirement. If we could have something with maybe 2-4 inversions with a 48" height requirement and some other fun elements that are unconventional and the coaster really uses that terrain/valley in that plot well, I think that would be a big win for that park. I know copperhead strike at Carowinds has a 52" height requirement but something like that or something like Maverick or maybe velocicoaster would work really well because kids aren't too scared to ride because it has 10 inversions but also it's a really really good ride. I'm also thinking Cheetah hunt which does have the 48" height requirement and is a good ride but it needs a little more punch than that to be in that thrill category. Cheetah Hunt is a tiny bit too take I think for what we need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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