Discussing Land and Space in and around Vortex

[WoodVengeance]

If a lower height requirement is one of the goals for our next major addition, that actually does make Gerstlauer more favorable over Mack since Hangtime has a height requirement of 48", whereas Copperhead Strike has a 52" requirement.

[Orion742]

50 minutes ago, WoodVengeance said:

If a lower height requirement is one of the goals for our next major addition, that actually does make Gerstlauer more favorable over Mack since Hangtime has a height requirement of 48", whereas Copperhead Strike has a 52" requirement.

Although I do want to point out l, the Xtreme spinner has 51 inch height requirement and the Stryker coaster is 50 inches. Cedar Fair specifically selected 52 inches for Copperhead Strike I believe. 

[disco2000]

2 hours ago, DonHelbig said:

There is a grass area behind the Crypt building where Coasterstock participants were taking to get behind-the-scenes photos of Diamondback that would be a possible spot to relocate where the drones launch from, if they continue to use drones in 2025 and beyond. It's only a couple hundred feet from the current location.

 

Sadly, that would probably cause Diamondback and possibly Mystic Timbers to have to close for the drone show and only Shake, Rattle, and Roll would be added back to not the rides not closing list as WindSeeker also is closed because of the lasers from International Street.  The Beast and Orion (and possibly The Racer) would still be closed due to fireworks.

And if they launched from there but then moved in flight to where they are now in the sky, that would shut down whatever goes in Vortex spot.

It would be unfortunate to lose that much ride capacity, especially if they decide not to re-open some of them after the show.

[Hawaiian Coasters 325]

Imo while closing a few headlining rides early for fireworks sucks for those who love night rides, at the same time I feel like it helps encourage people to watch the show on I-street as well as get people out of the park faster so associates don't have to stay as long to do closing procedures (ie putting the ride to bed, cleaning, walking lockout areas). 

[disco2000]

17 minutes ago, Hawaiian Coasters 325 said:

Imo while closing a few headlining rides early for fireworks sucks for those who love night rides, at the same time I feel like it helps encourage people to watch the show on I-street as well as get people out of the park faster so associates don't have to stay as long to do closing procedures (ie putting the ride to bed, cleaning, walking lockout areas). 

That only works for the rides that do not re-open like Racer, WindSeeker, Shake Rattle Roll, Eiffel Tower, etc.

The majority of people don't leave The Beast line once is shuts down for fireworks.  It could be some nights almost an hour it sits between shutting down early, the show, waiting to get the signal to re-open, all the while the line remains open until 10pm and continues to grow.  This results in that ride getting out later than had it not closed.  It may not be a direct correlation to the amount of time it was shut down, but on many nights, the line could have been cleared out by the time the ride is re-opened had it not had to close.

 

[Shawn Meyer]

On 10/22/2024 at 3:39 PM, WoodVengeance said:

I feel a Mack Stryker would be an absolutely incredible fit for that plot of land. It would be the first-of-its-kind in North America and the park could still go for 10 inversions if they wanted to.

What do those look like?

[WoodVengeance]

22 minutes ago, Shawn Meyer said:

What do those look like?

It's a new model Mack Rides has put out. There's only one currently at Europa Park called Voltron Nevera. Think of it kind of like Mack Ride's take on a Gerstlauer Infinity.

[IndyGuy4KI]

I really want a MACK Spinner that includes inversions like Time Traveler at Silver Dollar City in Branson, Mo.

 

 

[BeeastFarmer]

1 hour ago, IndyGuy4KI said:

I really want a MACK Spinner that includes inversions like Time Traveler at Silver Dollar City in Branson, Mo.

 

 

[tuxedoman52]

Have you ever been on Time Traveler or Ride to Happiness?

Time Traveler is not nauseating at all to me. I rode it 25 times in 100 degree weather in the same day and enjoyed every single ride.

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[Orion-XL200]

Time Traveler is great! Would love to be able to ride something like it on this side of the Mississippi. 

@BeeastFarmer it isn't nauseating at all. 

[BeeastFarmer]

3 hours ago, tuxedoman52 said:

Have you ever been on Time Traveler or Ride to Happiness?

Time Traveler is not nauseating at all to me. I rode it 25 times in 100 degree weather in the same day and enjoyed every single ride.

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14 minutes ago, Orion-XL200 said:

Time Traveler is great! Would love to be able to ride something like it on this side of the Mississippi. 

@BeeastFarmer it isn't nauseating at all. 

Sierra Sidewinder was too much for me

[Orion-XL200]

23 hours ago, WoodVengeance said:

It's a new model Mack Rides has put out. There's only one currently at Europa Park called Voltron Nevera. Think of it kind of like Mack Ride's take on a Gerstlauer Infinity.

While this would be cool, I highly doubt Kings Island or Cedar Six Flags Fair would be able to pull it off not only budget wise, but with the technical side as well. The park/company has struggled in the past several years with operating the basic coasters, cannot imagine how they'd run a coaster with multi launch, turntable, and effects to this caliber. I could be wrong...but yeah, don't see them dropping the kind of $$ needed to build this.

[WoodVengeance]

31 minutes ago, Orion-XL200 said:

While this would be cool, I highly doubt Kings Island or Cedar Six Flags Fair would be able to pull it off not only budget wise, but with the technical side as well. The park/company has struggled in the past several years with operating the basic coasters, cannot imagine how they'd run a coaster with multi launch, turntable, and effects to this caliber. I could be wrong...but yeah, don't see them dropping the kind of $$ needed to build this.

Yeah, I was mainly talking about the model itself. I highly doubt we would see nearly the amount of theming and effects that are present on Voltron Nevera.

[BeeastFarmer]

I never really noticed it, but to me, Valrvyn's paint job is similar to Vortex's paint job.

 

[WoodVengeance]

25 minutes ago, BeeastFarmer said:

I never really noticed it, but to me, Valrvyn's paint job is similar to Vortex's paint job.

 

Yes, but Valravn has white paint on the bottom of the track. For a 1:1 paint job to Vortex, both the track and supports would be painted dark blue, with just the rails on the track painted orange.

[BeeastFarmer]

3 minutes ago, WoodVengeance said:

Yes, but Valravn has white paint on the bottom of the track. For a 1:1 paint job to Vortex, both the track and supports would be painted dark blue, with just the rails on the track painted orange.

I said similar.

When I saw this photo, it struck me how much I do miss Vortex.  I am hoping that whatever replaces it will be worthy of the site.

[Orion-XL200]

Eh kinda similar.....the "orange" you see is really pronounced by the sun.....it's more like a poo brown up close....grey on the bottom of the track and that blue is almost grey.