Wolfpack building activity

[FUN&ONLY!]

It is odd that there is a sale for just the PEANUTS merchandise. I wouldn’t mind Kings Island abandoning the PEANUTS theme in the area altogether and creating original themes for attractions like Dollywood did with Wildwood Grove, but I don’t know how likely that is.

[Tr0y]

The contract Cedar Fair has with Peanuts runs till 2025. With an optional 5 year extension at the discretion of Cedar Fair.

[disco2000]

#PlanetSnoopygone2024 lol

[Rivertown Rider]

The last time I remember them doing a store sale the middle of the season is when they had the clearance sale at the Attitudes store.  A few weeks later it was torn down in preparation for Coney BBQ.

Hearing from one of the designers at CoasterCon last week it sounds like they want to do more with the Snoopy license.  I could see the old Sky Ride station getting torn down as well as the barnyard. 

Wasn't there also a survey a few years ago asking about restaurant ideas for Planet Snoopy?  A Camp Snoopy conversion like Carowinds would be fantastic.

[Hawaiian Coasters 325]

49 minutes ago, Rivertown Rider said:

The last time I remember them doing a store sale the middle of the season is when they had the clearance sale at the Attitudes store.  A few weeks later it was torn down in preparation for Coney BBQ.

Hearing from one of the designers at CoasterCon last week it sounds like they want to do more with the Snoopy license.  I could see the old Sky Ride station getting torn down as well as the barnyard. 

Wasn't there also a survey a few years ago asking about restaurant ideas for Planet Snoopy?  A Camp Snoopy conversion like Carowinds would be fantastic.

I believe I remember that too. I believe the survey mentioned something along the lines of "an indoor dining facility with kids entertainment." I'm thinking something like Harmony Hall at Carowinds (would be very similar to Festhaus though) or maybe if you want to go Camp Snoopy, you could go a lodge style building like Canada's Wonderland built. Call it "Peanuts Grand Hall" or "Peanuts Grand Lodge".

EDIT: I found the thread that talks about this survey:

 

[IndyGuy4KI]

Official speculation thread started here. https://kicentral.com/forums/index.php?/topic/46527-2024-kings-island-speculation-thread/

 

 

[PKIDelirium]

4 hours ago, Oldschool75 said:

Nope. I would have said. “We we’re #1”.


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Apparently I’m the only person on here other than you that’s seen the movie a current attraction is named after.

[WoodVengeance]

Lights are still on as of the evening of July 7th

[SonofBaconator]

Any update since July 7th?

[Tr0y]

Not an update but here’s Iron Gwazi inside of Timberwolf Amphitheater.

…. Come to think of it, Timberwolf would be a great name for a coaster in that spot. 

[OverlandTaxis30]

12 hours ago, Tr0y said:

Not an update but here’s Iron Gwazi inside of Timberwolf Amphitheater.

…. Come to think of it, Timberwolf would be a great name for a coaster in that spot. 

Yep. It would share the same name as the woodie at Worlds of Fun.

Edited August 27, 2023 by OverlandTaxis30
Forgot to type a word.

[KI FANATIC 37]

Don’t get my hopes up. I would love an RMC at Kings Island. I think it would look and fit the park great in the old Vortex lot


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[Tr0y]

The Wolfpack returns to KI:

The name is so generic that CP is taking notes. 

[WoodVengeance]

1 hour ago, Tr0y said:

The name is so generic that CP is taking notes. 

Well, Six Flags used that name in the 90's, so...

[WoodVengeance]

I saw this photo taken from the Kings Island Season Passholders facebook page. It seems the Wolf Pack sign got removed.

[Tr0y]

On 8/29/2023 at 1:54 AM, WoodVengeance said:

Well, Six Flags used that name in the 90's, so...

Except maybe it would take on a DC Comics name..

[Bwb.32]

;(Reposting the pertinent SOB station changes, recently and originally identified and posted by PKIVortex in the "Kings Island Halloween Haunt 2024 Discussion" over here for consistency of having all the info on the changes / speculation on this in one place. );
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on 9/8/2024 at 12:43 AM, PKIVortex said:
Seen this today over near the SoB atation.

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on 9/8/2024 at 02:32 PM, Coasterteam said: 
 

I have photos of them also taking stuff out of the area from August 14th, 2024. Just to show the difference, something cool to see them working in this place again.

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I made additional connections in my post following this post from Coasterteam, on 9/9/2024 at 4:42 AM

i just came to the realization that these are quite literally the "Lost remnants of number 5" that were referenced in the weird 2019 teaser from CP :

definitely curious how this all aligns now further with the details of the poster, Stating "items inside crates and trunks must remain closed until the time is right", and now seeing a literal crate open with pieces of the former ride. 
Wonder if any of the other various crates / barrels marked with the outpost 5 logo throughout the park have been updated in any way following this new crate at the former site.
Maybe this was the plan pre covid and was shelved until now? maybe the company is satisfied with steel vengeance and RMC now that its operating consistently and feel confident moving forward with this project?

theoretically with tunnels itd likely be possible to reuse the original station going out under Banshee for what id imagine is the most viable route of entry / exit to the open space the former ride occupied, beyond Banshee

personally I feel like with the space to available it could honestly be very fitting if a downward helix started the ride just as it does on The Beast

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update for 09/10/2024 at 3:53pm: 

User on Instagram identified and posted additional changes to the "station building", seemingly new paint on the semi-temporary walls utilized by the former haunt attraction, curiously this new paint is in the same style of caution crosshatching as the crate and formerly SOB's original theme, as well as featuring a fairly sizeable outpost 5 logo painted near one of the three doorways ( photo attached )

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Some additional thoughts:

The crate states "ATTN. KI Haunt" which could be taken at face value for a teaser of a new Haunt maze potentially, but for me this raises some questions:

Why would KI tease a new Haunt maze a full year ahead of said addition? 

Why does the crate reference RMC (while utilizing a font commonly used by RMC I might add), personally I would like to believe the PR association with utilizing any arrangement that leads to the abbreviation RMC at any theme park is known and wouldn't be placed on this crate lightly knowing the speculation it could. ( and is causing. ) ( lol )

Why does this now align very well with the, what were, seemingly abandoned thread of teasers from 2019?

Hasn't the park in recent years (2019 onward?) reserved the haunt season for announcing / beginning the teasing of major removals/ additions ?  (I.E.: Firehawk , Vortex , Orion) (obviously Adventure port was not in the plans and had little to no teasing, although it is weird that this could align as well, given that the park was handed a last minute budget for CapEx, and out of all the areas they could have changed, they chose to expand this idea that Adventure Express and the area is a mining / shipping port, which was always connected to the Outpost 5 lore, make additional references and teasers to outpost 5 and SOB within this addition, even reupping the theme references on the ride to the "shipping and cargo transportation route" which was referenced within the teaser from 2019? ( weirdly too coincidental IMO )

Any connection to the SOB / Outpost 5 tweets from RMC? 

Is this the T-REX??????!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

(Longshot but hey we know RMC was approached about the T-Rex by a park, nothing seemingly came of it, yet RMC has continued making references, tweets, and stringing along that its still a thing, seems curious that this timeline fits into the conundrum of unplanned additions / removals to KI (not to mention covid wrecking CapEx plans / timelines for all the parks)

Edit 5:20 PM 09/10/2024:

Seeing online as well that the structure may have been deemed unfit for use by the state at some point, could explain the electrical work previously seen being done? maybe power / utilities needed to be disconnected from the structure to comply with this? Maybe what pushed the park to begin making these changes, or look at the options they have with the space / structure? Furthermore, it appears as the "semi-temporary" walls, have internally been removed for the most part, seems like from the photos that the edge walls are basically all that's left up in there from the haunt, which I would imagine is probably for over image it might portray having the station fully empty, and maybe also to deter anyone who might go exploring from going all the way into the station (small case, but its been known to happen with some videos of people doing exactly this, able to be found on YouTube if you search hard enough (lol)

Edit 6:30 PM 09/10/2024: 
Reference for full drawn crate seen in 2019 teaser is likely this: 

Crate which is found in the Adventure Express station post refurbishment and theming update.

Weirdly IMO looking at this it seems to be straight up the exact same crate from the 2019 teaser, except, the hinge locks and straps keeping it closed have been IMO what appears to be themed as if something busted them open? destroying parts of the crate/hinges there? 6:40 PM: yeah 100% the blurry brown bar looking structure on the bottom right of the crate there is the same as the bar structure on the drawing of it. definitely made to look like something broke out. 

Edit 7:07 PM 09/10/2024: 

Further theming thought, maybe they really have just been been playing the incredibly long game with this one? I mean this teaser from 2019 references further incoming shipments, and again that they shouldn't be opened until the time is right, and since this there have been numerous occurrences of crates, boxes, barrels, etc. popping up throughout the park since this time. 
okay now this ones gonna get a little crazy, but 

 

In 2020 I capped a nice shot of this crate showing up next to the stairs in FOF, this year, just happening to be on a family visit, I noticed the crate was gone, and saw these weird pole structures beyond where the crate was, not sure if its always been there, I've never noticed it before, but if someone has any idea or if its related that'd be dope!

 

[SonofBaconator]

Seems like a lot of detail was put into this to just troll fans, though I’ve been wrong before

[silver2005]

You really expect this PR staff to be that thorough through a supposed 5 year teaser for a theoretical RMC when they can't even get a kid's area properly advertised?  

Clearly, someone is too used to Don being at the helm. 

[Bwb.32]

25 minutes ago, silver2005 said:

You really expect this PR staff to be that thorough through a supposed 5 year teaser for a theoretical RMC when they can't even get a kid's area properly advertised?  

Clearly, someone is too used to Don being at the helm. 

just a small thought, considering the original teaser for this in 2019 was at CP, maybe Tony and his team is involved with the theming?

wouldn't be the craziest thing in my opinion, Tony has been known for some time to be just a thorough as Don was, and if KI finally is getting that huge marquee attraction (again T-Rex?), Tony has the experience with marketing such an attraction, multiple times over, wouldn't be crazy to have someone else who works for the company within the same state, barely 3 hours away from each other, to at least consult on this all lol

were just speculating here, trying my best to open up, and retrench some of the past info / leads / Easter eggs ; for further thought to see if anything comes of it from anyone with the new stuff that could also totally mean nothing 

[BryanJay]

My personal opinion on the new decoration is that it’s nothing more than that: A decoration that’s basically used as a random troll for fans or a publicity stunt. SOB is one of those attractions KI likes to reference often (Adventure Port and random crates around the parks as an example) and I feel like this is just another one of those. With the addition of stuff like the Phantom Theater car infront of Boo Blasters, I think someone who works in the Haunt Decoration team just like having these on display to guest. Absolutely hope I’m wrong and this is a clue to something though, I’d love to see basically any kind of wooden coaster that just uses the name.   

[Bwb.32]

On 6/21/2023 at 4:30 PM, Bwb.32 said:

and this is one of the electric boxes that was flagged in 2020, right next to the gate that i caught being wide open lol
makes me wonder if they werent entierely just burying lines and cleaning things up, but were also reconnecting some services. (posted by Gforce1994 on august 13, 2020)

Reddit user identified changes to this electrical box from what was seen here in 2020.
Post if from 11 days ago

The what appeared to be temporary? line run along the outside of the existing conduit attached via zip ties, has seemingly gone, Note the wall have been repainted as well?!?

Service ran inside the conduit appears to be disconnected as of this photo, which bares the question of why a temporary service connection was made for a period of time and then disconnected and removed again

[Bwb.32]

Seeing this photo going around reddit now

[DJSkyFoxx]

I will say again. This speculation is fun! Nothing is ever a guarantee here, but man this is a good time seeing all of this activity. 

I think it bears mentioning again that if the old station were truly not usable, 1) Why would it have been left standing all of these years? It is, after all, a 24ish year old structure that has for all intents and purposes been standing without a real purpose for longer than when it housed the rebellious Son. I realize it was used as Wolf Pack for a few seasons but that has been retired some years back due to any number of reasons ( dip in popularity? building needing brought up to code? both? etc )  2) Why would they be putting all of this recent work into the station if they didn't have something else planned for it? I am in no way saying they are going to absolutely build a coaster for it ( I sure hope so just like everyone else ) but there is definitely something they plan to do with it besides let it sit abandoned for another 24 years. Seems like a lot of effort just to let it sit when they could have easily just torn it down. 

This wouldn't be the first time in the park's history to re-use an old station of a problematic ride to house something else ie: the orignal Bat/Vortex 

While I think the concept of the RMC T-Rex is neat, I'm in the camp of wanting to see a ground-up hybrid as I feel that is far more fitting for a Son of Beast reboot. 

[BeeastFarmer]

Or they could spend a tiny amount of the haunt budget to throw up some paint, throw up some props and get people talking about the thing.  

This would be a good way to divert attention from a haunt that has a (possibly) vastly reduced budget. 

Or not .

[SmartCat7162]

It would be cool to have a Son of Beast themed house. The way that the ride has such an aura and grip on enthusiasts and the general public alike I feel that if it is done right it would really be good and would drive attendance if marketing is done correctly. I also feel like if they used the old station and the son had "escaped his confines" and now haunts the station would be a very easy and cool concept.

[Orion-XL200]

52 minutes ago, SmartCat7162 said:

It would be cool to have a Son of Beast themed house. The way that the ride has such an aura and grip on enthusiasts and the general public alike I feel that if it is done right it would really be good and would drive attendance if marketing is done correctly. I also feel like if they used the old station and the son had "escaped his confines" and now haunts the station would be a very easy and cool concept.

How would a Son of Beast themed house be achieved? What would it look like? What would the characters be/look like? What would be the scare? Would be an interesting concept, just not sure I personally would be able to answer my above questions. 


The one thing I noticed when I visited the park last, was that the bridge heading to The Bat has been completely painted over...no more stars. I didn't go through the main Bat queue, so I didn't see if the flag was still painted on the wall or not. 
 

[Tr0y]

I have found no survey markers near or around the old SoB station.

My guess is all of the commotion going on at SoB station is because it is used as storage for Halloween props.

[SmartCat7162]

Do you think they would put something in this plot before filling The Vortex plot as well. Would they put a Son of Beast remake ride in The Vortex plot? I could see them trying to incorporate that into Rivertown area, but it would be a stretch.

[silver2005]

I prefer The Vortex plot stay Coney Mall.  The way the path is set up, something big at the end feels kind of highlighted by the rest of the area kind of leading up to it.