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  1. Look how much is being done!!! https://www.visitkingsisland.com/blog/2021/december/beast-of-a-project-this-winter-at-kings-island
    15 points
  2. The budget was $31 million. Yes, they had to work within it, but they had enough money to do what you said. Like I said, it was a choice. The length is because they thought that this layout proposal had the best pacing. You might think it's dumb, but that is the reasoning. Why should I believe it? Because I sat across a table from Mike Koontz and was looking him in the eyes when he was telling me this. It lines up with his vision for the park. It was corroborated by other people I interviewed. And why do you think they would lie about this and not anything else I talked about in the book? People can misremember...but I do not believe any of the people I interviewed lied to me. I do believe that people should feel however they want to about stuff that gets built, but the notion that Cedar Fair is purposely making Kings Island worse off or that they purposely cheapened out on Orion just isn't supported by any known facts. The management teams at both the park and corporate levels adore Kings Island, its history, and its legacy, and are committed to investing into the park and making it the best it can be. I just wish that love had translated into the 50th Anniversary logo!
    10 points
  3. Here's a wonderful pair of photos showing the flume with the lights. Both photos were previously shared in the Kings Island History Facebook group by user Pete Leaf Peters.
    9 points
  4. The 50th will be a great year. The 150 CP Anniversary was pretty awesome and Cedar Fair will do well with the one at KI. We can all wish for different things but looking back on park history can't we just stand back and say yes we are amazed at what the Wachs and Taft Broadcasting accomplished in the early 1970s? I mean they built such a great park and while time has caused certain attractions so fade away, we still have a lot of history in the park and hopefully that's all recognized during the anniversary. I would love to see signs outside the ques of all the original opening day rides to let people know this is a park original. Now as for the Controversial topic about Cedar Fair keeping Kings Island down, I can't say I totally agree about that. Here's why, since aquiring Kings Island, Cedar Fair has relocated or built 5 rollercoasters at the park (Firehawk, Diamondback, Banshee, Mystic Timbers, & Orion) In that same time frame, Cedar Fair has built/rebranded 5 rollercoasters at Cedar Point (Maverick, GateKeeper, Rougarou, Valraven, Steel Vengeance). Both Firehawk and Rougarou to me were temporary attractions. With Firehawk being the oldest it makes sense it closed first but trust me, when CP needs that space Rougarou is gone too. You may argue that CP got coaster types we didn't have (aka dive, winged, rmc hybrid, floorless) but you have to look at what we had before their management. We gained new coaster types too (aka Hyper, Inverted, Flying, and Giga). MT to me was the only one we already had something similar but sometimes you need to invest in that 48" generation seeing as they knew Vortex was on its last leg and I'm assuming the old Top Gun (now The Bat) won't be far behind. So when arguing that CF has kept us down I would say NOT AT ALL! Yes as a park CP is probably better but as someone else pointed out they have to attract tourism while we are a local park. It's just a different market. Mike Koontz has a good head on his shoulders and has done a ton for KI during his time and we all owe him a huge thanks for bringing KI out of the slump Paramount had put it in. I do agree that Vortex needs a replacement and I'm sure Koontz knows that too but now is not the time. Obviously there's other parks they need to invest in and money I'm sure is tight because of Covid. HEY DID EVERYONE FORGET THAT FREE YEAR OF SEASON PASSES!!?? Think about how much money they lost because THEY DID THE RIGHT THING! I will always be loyal to Cedar Fair for that reason if not for anything else.
    8 points
  5. I am hoping Chef Major has some ideas for the 50th anniversary in 22 in the food department. In the not to distant past there were threads about bad food quality. Now most of the discussion is positive and people looking forward to the next food event wondering what Chef has up his sleeve. He really had changed the game with the food at KI.
    8 points
  6. I wanted to share this with you guys. I got to skate for my first time on Snow Flake Lake last night. I had always wanted to do it (yes, I can skate!!) but every year I was so excited for the shows and lights that by the time it came up it was just too cold. Fortunately we had a rare upper 40’s night so it was prime for skating last night. Our experience was truly a great experience. My little friend Noah (he’s five) went from not being able to skate all the way to doing spurts of speed skating with frequent violent crashes by the end of the session. The employees were fantastic! They were so encouraging to him and even took our pictures. Not like the “yeah, whatever, I’ll take your picture” attitude that some people have, but truly caring about capturing the moment. There was a guy name Jay on the west end of the ice that spent about eight minutes with us and even suggested different angles. I’m sharing this because I want you guys to all try out the skating. $15 for rental and sheet time is NOT a bad price. You can even buy through the Kings Island app and skip the line. There is something magical about Winterfest this year… more so now than ever. Merry Christmas, friends!
    8 points
  7. Bumping this thread because I've found a lot of people online confused about what Gravity Group is doing, so here are some visualizations. (also so I can link them to this thread!) In the photo released by the park, we can see that this part of the non-enclosed helix is stripped of it's top layer/rails. We can likely presume the rest of this non-enclosed part is the same, but for now we just know this general part is also being re-tracked, likely in-house. Can't say about the second exit of the helix or inside of the helix, also unknown. [Photo cropped from KI Beast Project Blog Post] To also visualize what parts Gravity Group is specifically doing, here's a helpful visual. (Base image: Google maps Satellite imagery) [Green = Confirmed track re-engineering by Gravity Group in the KI Blog Post] [Red = Normal re-tracking (in-house?)] [Red dotted; Possible but not known] It is currently unknown as to which sections are being included in the 1,090 feet of additional retracking, so if any construction progress is posted we might get glimpses/photos of the parts being worked on in-house. Will likely update visualizations after more information is officially released.
    7 points
  8. For one, Cedar Point and Kings Island do not draw a lot from the same demographic of guests. Yes, I'm sure you know some people that attend both parks, but it's not generally true for the average park attenders. I'm betting the Orion lift was not 300ft since the drop could be accomplished without having a lift of that height, thus reducing the cost and utilizing the terrain. The Beast does the same. That is money that will be spent elsewhere in the park or on future attractions. I would like to see something go in the spot where Vortex is sooner rather than later, but who knows now that the pandemic pushed back plans by at least a year. I'm loving all of the TLC that The Racer has received and now The Beast is receiving. Should make longer lives for those iconic coasters. I was a little torn about the ornamental fountains on I.S. As much as I loved those, it was past time for an upgrade. Sometimes change is hard for me to deal with, especially with a park that I have been literally attending since the age of 1. Some of the changes have been great and some not so great. All in all, nothing that has changed swayed me from attending or sharing my love of KI with my kid.
    7 points
  9. 7 points
  10. They could easily add it back during a Planet Snoopy update and still have movement through there. I agree with another member who posted in this thread. It was like a portal that took you to another land. That is what they are missing. The immersion of themed areas. That is why Universal and Disney do so well. KI needs to separate Planet Snoopy and Rivertown again as well as isolate other areas.
    7 points
  11. I am not an ACE member, but I think you are wrong here. ACE has done a lot for the industry and continues to do so for all parks far and wide. Look at what this very site and is members have done for Kings Island over the years. KIC has value for the park, not only with our news, history, pic galleries, forums, now podcast, and basically a fan ran marketing team for the park that costs them nothing. Look at the way KIC has helped spark interest in younger individuals/members who are now in the industry. Members have encourage each other to peruse their dream. Heck we have a long time member that now does theming across the chain. A member who has written a history book. The list goes on. ACE also helps provide those interests and passions by doing what they do. Getting back on topic, I can't wait to see what new life is brought back to the Beast with the new engineering for the drop and helix. If it is anything like they did for The Racer I can't wait to experience it.
    7 points
  12. I do not see the "status" changing. IMO- ACE needs Beast more than Beast needs ACE.
    7 points
  13. That part was really confusing to me, too. I'm gonna take a stab in the dark here: I think the post is saying that, prior to this redesign, the structures of the upper track and the lower track merged into one big structure before the tunnel. That merged structure had a higher amount of sway to it as the train passed over it that caused the ride to be rough. The Gravity Group is redesigning the supports in that area to remain separate and unmerged until the tunnel itself. Separating the structures until then will allow both structures to be more rigid, which will reduce the sway and lead to a smoother ride.
    7 points
  14. The Racer queue, the Tiques queues, and the Carousel have/had some of my favorite architecture and theming in the park, too. Also- Racer Radio in the lower queue please.
    6 points
  15. This time I made a Mack launch concept for the plot. I have it themed basically after the Miami River Brewhouse and I have the station basically themed to a Brewing house (ie Sonder Brewing) basically the backstory is similar to Copperhead Strike with the moonshine, but this time it is themed around Lager and how something happened in the brewhouse causing the brewhouse to be abandoned (kinda like Mystic/Twisted Timbers story line. I also relocated the gliders to where Vortex's station was to give Coney Mall a ride there and renamed it Flying Eagles to pay homage to the original ride. Not in this picture, but like in my Rivertown concept in that thread, a new building would go where the basketball game and the current pathway to backlot currently stand and a new path to Backlot would go by Jukebox and the basketball game would be relocated to Action Zone or where the ladder game is by Hanks. The plot where Gliders sits now would be the new home of Linus Launcher and the flume would be readded to Rivertown and a new stage would go where Linus is currently. This is just a concept and I don't speak for the company in any way and have no inside information.
    6 points
  16. Orion being "scaled down" was Kings Island's choice. They wanted a giga, but they also wanted a ride that people of all ages would be able to ride over and over again comfortably. It had nothing to do with Cedar Point.
    6 points
  17. I usually agree with most of your opions…but never once did I consider the fountain with the pedestals just something to walk through…on my very first visit decades ago, the ONLY thing that has stayed with me is the majesty of walking into the park and seeing the tower and the fountains.
    6 points
  18. Just saw this on Facebook and thought it was interesting.
    6 points
  19. Landmark designations by ACE are permanent. It is purely to highlight the coasters historic importance. Parks can modify the coasters or even remove the coaster and it’s designation will not change. Big Dipper at Geauga Lake joined the list after the park was permanently closed but before the coaster was torn down. ACE also has a coaster classics list which can be rescinded and is intended to highlight rides which operate in a classic manor. Woodstock express used to qualify and it has since been rescinded.
    6 points
  20. I think your misunderstanding the problem. It’s not the amount of sway, it’s that it is not consistent. The rigidity of the bents is changing in this area causing the bents to move different amounts. The goal is not to reduce sway, it’s to make it so that it sways together a similar distance which will produce a smoother ride. I think you are correct they are separating the structure but I am still confused about exactly what the new design will look like. I really do not understand what the line about “the lower bents will be upper bents until the tunnel” means.
    6 points
  21. Love it or hate it, the Wild Thornberry’s retheme/overhaul is the reason it still stands today. That said, I’d prefer it be integrated into Rivertown again.
    5 points
  22. With the ride being repainted, I kinda hope one of the announcements is that it's being rethemed and annexed back into Rivertown this year.
    5 points
  23. I remember seeing the lights on the log flume in this video from 1980. At around 1:30 in the video, you can see the lights down the trough with a log going over them:
    5 points
  24. Racer queue would be a simple process of arranging the rails so Fast Lane takes a loop around the right perimeter, and the rest is the primary queue with switches to bypass parts of the maze when not needed.
    5 points
  25. One thing I hope they do with Racer also is completely revamp the queue. Keep the style, but remove half the queue not used and put in some plants or something, spruce it up. Then do the same for old man Beast when it turns 50.
    5 points
  26. The notion that the top execs at Cedar Fair want something less for any of their parks so as to ensure they don't outshine Cedar Pointe is kinda silly. If you wanted to accuse Dick Kinzel of that, OK, I'd get that a bit, he grew up in Toledo and first worked at Cedar Pointe before eventually working his way up to CEO. He has a house just outside its property. Kinzel has since been replaced by a man that grew up in NY, became an accountant and worked for Disney for a number of years. He was later replaced by a man who grew up in Kansas and worked his way up thru the Virginia side of the parks. Meanwhile, there have been rumblings that management is looking to move headquarters out of Sandusky and down to Charlotte. From a pure business stand point, financially I see how that makes sense, its probably much easier to recruit and retain top level employees if they are based in Charlotte rather than Sandusky. One could certainly maintain such a move would take the heart out of the company, but I've digressed from the main point. The simplest explanation is that CedarFair (not Pointe mind you) game Kings Island a budget and a roughly guideline on what to install. and left it to Kings Island management to take that budget and guidelines and tweak them to what they envision the parks best interests to be. It is in both KI's best interest as well as Cedar Fair's best interest for the park to thrive in the best way possible. CP and KI are two similar, yet very different parks with very different clients. The more complicated explanation is that top level Execs are scared CP would lose its luster to a park 300 miles to its south and therefor prevent that asset from delivering the best return possible.
    5 points
  27. I would guess also that Cedar Fair had the capital allocation established and could not change that easily. Thus, they used the established budget and worked with B&M to build a coaster on that ground within the budget (which you covered in your research). For the 50th, I like the updates to The Beast and maybe they can also get the animatronics working on Adventure Express. I wouldn't mind seeing a special event that lasts well into the night to commemorate the 50th along with a larger fireworks show. Maybe some banners showing past rides (placed close to where the rides sat).
    5 points
  28. Kings Dominion has the perfect International Street, at least to me. The updated one at KI is still beautiful, and it sets the tone every time I'm there for a great day and then a great end to the night when we walk out. I miss the larger trees and lived in atmosphere that Dominion has, but I hope I never take it for granted. My home park of Canada's Wonderland's International Street feels a bit less special but still beautiful. The bridge over the water near the mountain is great.
    5 points
  29. I like the new International Street and new Royal Fountain. I used to feel iffy about the aesthetics of the fountain changing, but seeing the reintroduction of the European theming of the buildings made up for it. At the end of the day, it's the architecture that makes International Street what it is, the fountain leading to the Eiffel Tower just ties it all together. I do think that it would have been cool to see street lamps returning to the street, but it is what it is. In terms of food, I will say that these past couple years I've noticed that Cedar Fair is starting to show that they're not afraid to delve into theming a bit more. French Corner opening up during Tricks & Treats Fall Fest in 2020 is a great example. I didn't expect the park to add French food to their dining line up, and I was pretty impressed when I ate there. I really like the croissant sandwiches with the pomme frites on the side. And the interior is decked out with pictures of French landmarks and maps of Paris. I recommend eating there; it's a nice food stand and it enhances International Street's theming I think we should give props to the park for returning some "international" foods outside of Grand Carnivale, because this could be a step towards returning International Street to what it used to be prior to Paramount's tenure.
    5 points
  30. I don't get a negative vibe from you at all. I think you are extpressing what you wish the park had done, like many of us do about many subjects. I think we all want the best version of KI there is and what we see as the best, the leaders don't. I enjoy your posts! Thanks, I consider that a great compliment. Maybe I should have worded it differently, but pre 2017, I did enjoy the reveal of the tower and fountains. But it was stale as not much pizzaz had been added or maintained beyond that. When the pop music was changed in 2017, for me, the magic returned. And then the renovation built on that. I now look forward to the atmosphere on IS as much as riding Diamondback, and take the time to experience it each time I go to the park.
    5 points
  31. Agree, and honestly I’d venture that with the fountain renovation, they actually lessened the experience. Now, if the grand renovation on international street involved pushing the seating out closer to the fountain all the way around allowing for the seating to be further out, bringing back a true “street” hardscape and light posts along the building side to better define the “street”, hiding speakers so they aren’t just hung on the buildings, building out soffits to hide lighting equipment instead of having cords bundled all over the buildings, installing enough electrical outlets to properly light all Winterfest trim with out running extension cords that are left up all year, replacing mall food court options with true international foods, bringing back some compelling retail instead of a mall build a bear, and creating a program fir a show fountain that stays grand and refined through the day, then amazes at night…THEN I’d say WOW that’s the most impressive project they’ve ever undertaken. As it is, they performed needed maintenance with an eye toward historical references, replaced aging pavers and cleaned up traffic flow, and replaced aging fountain equipment that resulted in an overused, too thin spray “show fountain” that looses its impact by the time of its show by showing off all its tricks throughout the day. I know I’ll get the usual “why do you even come here because you clearly don’t like the park” line I always get, but it’s just that I feel they could’ve done so much more when they had the chance (which won’t probably come around again for a long time) and that’s BECAUSE I enjoy the park and hope it to be the best it can.
    5 points
  32. I’m going to go out on a limb and say that this was Mike’s way of saying no.
    5 points
  33. Kings Island ended 2021 with the return of their New Years Eve Party. The party did not disappoint and was the best one yet. Kings Island has learned how to put on a great NYE experience for everyone who attends. KICentral heard nothing but great things yet again for those who were at the event. Thank you for another great 2021 season in the midst of a pandemic Kings Island. Here is a video Kings Island sent us this morning of the NYE party. As another successful Kings Island season comes to an end and now we look forward to a great 2022 season. As we now put our thoughts on the 50th Anniversary season, we have many things to look forward to next season. Many rides have or are getting repainted. Eiffel Tower, The Racer, Race for Your Life Charlie Brown, Adventure Express, Backlot Stunt Coaster, Drop Tower, and Flying Ace Aerial Chase. Lasty, we have the official news we got on Christmas Day with the 2,000 ft of track work being done on The Beast. The 2021 season is barely over and there is already much to look forward to for the 2022 season. I also have a feeling we have not herd the last of the 50th anniversary season celebrations.
    5 points
  34. It's still The Beast. They aren't RMCing it or tearing it down. They are just retracking it and reprofiling sections of it to make it more rideable for the average park goer. A lot of the general public have basically been complaining this season that the ride was running too rough this year on social media and from me talking to guests while working this year. Retracking is part of maintaining a wooden coaster especially one as old and large as The Beast so it can stay around for generations to come. No way it loses its plaque for this.
    5 points
  35. Looks like filming on a ride in the video. So the ban is justified. Break the rules, pay the price. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    5 points
  36. It would be great if they tacked on another year for filming on a ride. If they really visit as often as they claim then they know the rules. They willingly violated them. What part of that makes me want to trust them over the park?
    5 points
  37. Speaking of rides, Indiana Beach is giving Coney's former Flying Bobs a nice makeover.
    5 points
  38. So let me get this straight. You just happened to run into a group who got into trouble, but weren't involved when security came to investigate. So you totally weren't ID'd at that point in person. Okay, then how exactly do you claim security tied you to the group unless you really think they played back surveillance footage of the group showing this "running into them"? And then they just assumed that you were there when the wrongdoing that was worthy of a 1-year ban occurred? You legit think they watched you all the way back to the time that you entered the park to pull up your season pass details, based on having "run into them"? Or do you seriously think they scanned the database of all pass holder photos to ID you? You totally didn't do anything to get yourself banned for a year, and then told your mom that you knew nothing about it, that you had "run into" a group who got into trouble but you weren't a part of it? Because a 15yo would never.. NEVER!!.. lie to his/her parents about getting in trouble! Sorry, the whole story seems to be a non-story, where he got himself into trouble and won't fess up. The simplest explanation is almost always the most accurate. Edited to add: And to show what honest, rule-abiding park guests you are, you released video to the media showing your reckless disregard for the safety of other guests, via loose articles on the lift hill of The Racer (handheld video)?
    5 points
  39. Kings Dominion has the most beautiful entrance area of all theme parks. The large mature trees and the landscape islands make it absolutely gorgeous. I like how the islands separate the seating areas from the main walkways. Kings Dominion I Street fit Winterfest is soooo much more immersive with lights all above everything in the high trees KD I Street was even better when the Eiffel Tower was totally surrounded by trees. But some insect or disease wiped those trees out. That was the failure of the Kings Island I Street renovating. The single row of trees and lack of landscape iislands. it was probably done for parade purposes but it feels much more linear and boring than KDs design. The other fault of the renovation is the hideous exposed light poles. Although those exposed light poles do make Let It Snow work great.
    4 points
  40. Just wondering if anyone remembers the colored lights the flume used to have on the drop? I remember back in the 80's it was real neat to walk by at night and see the different colors glowing underneath the falling water of the hill. Anyone have any old pics of this? It would be cool if KI brought this back for the 50th.
    4 points
  41. Sorry, I don't think I want LED DMX lighting like that in Rivertown. Rivertown is meant to be more rustic/western/country. I think LED DMX lighting would ruin that imo.
    4 points
  42. Looks like KICentral is being audited… hit the shredders!
    4 points
  43. With it blocked off for one side access now, half the queue is useless at this point anyway. A revamp is a good idea.
    4 points
  44. Orion's installation included a major overhaul to a dated themed area. Those changes factored into the overall budget for the capitol expenditure. The park has been very forthright about that when discussing the entire Orion project. My personal opinion is that they made the right call in spending a good deal of effort, and money, to flesh out Area 72, and not just install a coaster. Re: Knotts... I'm glad to see there's a proposal on the table for another signature attraction. But remember, until its announced, things can drastically change (or not happen at all.) I love Knotts as a park - its highly underrated. But there's some overall infrastructure issues the park needs to address - parking is a HUGE issue there. With competing parks upping the ante (Disneyland, Magic Mountain... even LegoLand and Sea World SD) a coaster installation would no doubt be a move to keep them vying for local & tourist dollars. However they also need to continue to concentrate of overall amenities at the park - and most notably the horrible rooms at the Knotts hotel - to keep tourists there for more than a day visit. Now back to the original topic... KI's 50th... I cant remember the last time I was this excited for an upcoming season. The concentration on improvements, and the focus on infrastructure and amenities at the park for 2022 is fantastic. The people overseeing KI are making great decisions.
    4 points
  45. Our big Christmas gift to our kids was tickets to Winterfest on NYE (we live in the Detroit area, so it was a big deal -- driving down, doing two nights in a hotel; they were pumped). I always wanted to do Winterfest, and I have to say my expectations were definitely met. I've heard some people criticize the decorations -- I don't know what they could have been in the past, but these were pretty great. I loved that every area of the park had its own look and feel in terms of lighting; my particular favorite was either International Street with all the blues and whites, or the gorgeous area by where BLSC is and Vortex used to be. The only area we didn't spend much time in was Action Zone, mainly because it was 10 pm by the time we got out there and everything was closing. A few of the pros/cons. Starting with the pros: Like I said, the decorations were great. I expected there would be entire areas of the park closed off or that we might just get some Christmas lights thrown willy-nilly around some of the lesser-traveled areas. But it's really impressive how many lights and displays there are, along with all the photo opportunities. Also loved the snow machines over Snowflake Lake (on a 60-degree night, it helped it feel wintry). The ride selection is really great in the winter. Adults can just walk and enjoy things, which is why I don't mind that only Flight of Fear and Mystic Timbers were open (due to lines, we didn't ride either). But for kids, it can be hard to go to one of their favorite places and not be able to ride anything. So I was glad that a lot of kids' rides and flats were open. My daughter loves Boo Blasters, so we got a good ride on that, and my son was thrilled that his personal favorite, Shake Rattle and Roll, was open. For me, I loved the Antique Cars with all the Christmas lights. I wanted to do the International Restaurant buffet, but that appeared to be switched over to a $100/person lounge event for NYE, so we didn't partake. I didn't realize they also had the buffet back in Rivertown, so we ate at the BBQ in Coney Mall instead. Great smoked turkey, brussel sprouts and biscuits. I still am holding out hope that maybe International Restaurant will get a seasonal reopening for the 50th. We'd purchased the souvenir mugs online, but they were all sold out by the time we went to get them (at least at Graeter's). But we still got unlimited hot cocoa through the night, and it was darn good hot chocolate. I was really impressed by the parade. I didn't expect so many floats, singers and dancers, and my daughter (6) was excited to be chosen to ring the jingle bells during one song. I really wish they'd do a parade all year, but I understand that maybe staffing doesn't allow that. But it was great. Staff was incredibly friendly and helpful, despite working a holiday night. As the night wound down, I saw many of them hugging each other goodbye, and I realized it was the last night of the year, and the last time working together for many of them. The camaraderie was good to see. We didn't see any shows, except for my wife and daughter stumbling onto the Mistletones, which they enjoyed. I liked the talking reindeer display in Rivertown. The train ride was fun. Nothing special, but a nice nighttime trip to take. If you have young kids, you really can't beat springing for preferred parking. Makes that end-of-the-night walk so much easier. I was a bit worried about walking around a park that just had vacant rides standing, reminding you of everything you couldn't do. The park does a great job of covering up any rides not in operation. I never felt like I was missing out on anything. Cons: We'd purchased ice skating tickets online, but the line was so long that we couldn't justify doing it. Really, only one. It was advertised that the rides would be closing at 10 p.m. However, I took that to mean the park's traditional rides would close at 10, not that pretty much all Winterfest attractions not on International Street would be closed (the tubing hill, crafts, any restaurants, etc.) Basically, they were funneling us all toward International Street or to the Festhaus. Which meant we were all being packed in tight quarters for two hours -- I get the idea of turning it into a party atmosphere, but at this time of the pandemic, it really felt irresponsible. Very few people were wearing masks and it just really felt like it had the potential to be a super-spreader event. Our kids were starting to crash and my wife and didn't like the idea of being packed in close with a bunch of mask-free strangers, so we peaced out around 10:30. I get wanting to get everyone to one area for crowd control and a celebratory feel, but I wish they'd had different areas throughout the park to do this and spread people out a bit. But that's the only real con. General question: I was trying to sneak a peak back at Timberwolf. Is it gone? It was dark, so I probably just couldn't see it. But I'd heard rumors here about it potentially going.
    4 points
  46. If they had done flat "curb" sidewalks for the sake of appearance, it would have been a strange look with everything else being pavers. Originally, it had those when it was an asphalt surface and looked like an actual "street" but now it's one, matching surface type. They don't have to take it back to 1972 whenever they re-do an area. It's a vast improvement on the ancient, crumbling pavers and concrete bench walls from before.
    4 points
  47. Here are the rules straight off of ACE’s website. The coaster must use traditional lap bars that allow riders to experience so-called airtime, or negative G's (that sensation of floating above the seat!). Individual, ratcheting lap bars do not meet this requirement. ACE Coaster Classics allow riders to slide from side-to-side. A coaster with any restraint or device that restricts this freedom is not eligible for ACE Coaster Classic status. ACE Coaster Classics allow riders to view the upcoming drops and thrills. Coasters with headrests on every seat, or the majority of seats, restrict this view and are not eligible for ACE Coaster Classic status. On ACE Coaster Classics, riders are free to choose where they sit. Some parks' operating procedures assign seating; these coasters are not eligible for ACE Coaster Classic status. That’s it, every single rule has to do with the train or operations. Removing a tunnel makes no difference.
    4 points
  48. I'd forgotten about that. "It's okay, at least midget wrestling is coming back" made me absolutely lose it. How I don't miss that era. HOW IS THAT VIDEO 10 YEARS OLD. I remember it being posted here like it was yesterday.
    4 points
  49. The reprofiling, seems to me, is a result of engineering capabilities that simply didn't exist back in the day. Now they have the ability to quickly enter in parameters in an engineering modeling program and design the ride to where it offers a great ride but at the same time is engineered to maximize the durability of the ride. Back when it was first built, some of the sections of The Beast were literally "trial and error." As far as the trims, I would say at a minimum, they can maximize the trim's desired effect without having them be too intrusive.
    4 points
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