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  1. How you’re hearing this from me and not from the news media is beyond me.
    12 points
  2. As a certain member (who hasn't been active here in several years) would say, yes, someone has seen it (those who have been here a while will get the reference )
    11 points
  3. I visited CGA about 20 years ago. My first, and only, time (so far) seeing the park in person. I knew that it was surrounded by corporate buildings, but I was still shocked at just how shoe-horned it was. It is literally surrounded on 3 sides by an office park, and then a residential area on the other. It was obvious then that the park had no where to grow. Frankly, its a wonder this hasn't happened sooner. Its always fought battle after battle due to its location - especially with the 49'ers stadium adjacent. I hate to see the loss of a long-standing park, but can also understand how it makes financial sense. That land is like sitting on gold. I cant imagine that the 49'ers will not have some say as to how much developing the new land owners can do... they share the parking lot with PGA. P.S. - Count me on the side of not wanting any cast-off rides from CGA relocated to KI. I'd rather see them go to other parks. That having been said - send their flyers to Carowinds, and bring our Eagles back. Now THAT would make me happy.
    10 points
  4. It's looked like this for a number of years. They typical store bike racks in this location for parking lot events. (Robbie Knievel, walking/running events, Haunt, etc)
    10 points
  5. Bring back Der Spinnen Keggers. Loved that one.
    10 points
  6. Hopefully Mike/Kings Island can move quick and ask for the Skyride, so we could have one again. Would love to see that brought back.
    9 points
  7. 9 points
  8. Why are people so in love with a gate coaster? I like that KI doesn’t play all it’s cards up front. You know what’s inside-you don’t need a coaster screaming over the front door to build excitement. If anything I feel it diminishes it. I like that international restaurant is getting a lot more use here of late-pretty much ensuring that if we do get a new entrance experience-they won’t be “opening it up” too much , and we will still get that wonderful compress and release view that Disney and KI mastered so well.
    9 points
  9. So, I've gone about traveling to different amusement parks as I would like to see what else is out there. That, and to up my coaster count Last Thursday and Friday, I took my wife and son to both Carowinds and Kings Dominion. Before I get into the rides, I must say I learned an important lesson... at nearly 51 years of age, I need to schedule a day of rest in between visits as my old butt can't handle it like I used to Having said that, I will give my overall review of each park and opinions on what we rode each day. Side note, we did buy Fast Lane at both parks to avoid long lines. However, even on a Friday at Kings Dominion, we really didn't need one and not much in the way of long lines at Carowinds outside of Fury 325. We arrived at Carowinds about 30 minutes after opening. This would prove to be the more tiring day as temperatures ended up being 95. As I grow older, I find myself less tolerant of the heat. Once inside, we stood on the NC/SC state line, trying to decide which way we should go. SC it is and we headed off. You'll have to forgive me as I cannot recall which rides are located on which side of the state line (I know of one that crosses over). Carolina Cyclone ... Classic Arrow with typical Arrow elements. A fun ride, but also reminds me of how technology has really improved over the years. Not sure what order we rode anything else, so I'll just review each ride. Afterburn is a great invert. Not my favorite, but some really cool elements and the trees in the area were placed really well. Carolina Goldrusher...a decent mine train, but in my mind nothing seems to top Adventure Express. Copperhead Strike...what can you say about this ride, but whew! The roll out of the station which makes you feel like you will fall out for certain, to the 2 launches, to the insane hang time in multiple inversions. This is something that I firmly believe should be taking the spot where Vortex was. Hurler...holy cow, this has to be the worst wooden coaster on the face of the earth. Between the jackhammering and shuffling, it was one painful moment after the other. It is literally the only coaster that when we hit the brake run, I shouted," tear it down". For reference, I rode Son of Beast several times and was never that uncomfortable. I would marathon SOB for 14 hours straight before ever stepping foot onto that abomination of a coaster again. It was closed for a good bit of the day, but we gambled on it when it finally opened late in the day. My back hurt so bad, it literally made me uncomfortable for the rest of the day. Intimidator (hyper) was our 1st ride of the day and I think it gives Diamondback a run for its money on the awesome ride it delivers. Unfortunately, Nighthawk was closed. I really wanted my son to experience a flying coaster for the first time. He was never tall enough for Firehawk before it was removed. We also rode Vortex, and I am personally glad most of the B&M standups are gone. Last (but certainly not least), is Fury 325. This coaster is insanely good from beginning to end. Lots of floater airtime, plus, just when you think this ride may be close to being over, there's plenty left to conquer. Easily the best coaster in the park, imo. Copperhead being a very close 2nd. Thankfully, we purchased a souvenir bottle and drank Powerade for a large majority of the day. My wife cannot have anything with sugar in it, so we bought her multiple bottles of water. Should've paid for a drink wrist band (something we did at KD) as it pays off quickly. We also paid for a 3 hour locker twice. We wound up doing a transferrable locker for only $1 more (well worth it) at KD. Overall, great park with mostly good rides. My only gripe is placement of entrances and exits were not well thought out. Also felt a little cramped. I suppose with KI and Cedar Point, other parks that I've been to give me this feeling. We also bought preferred parking (as I'm getting too old to walk long distances to a parking space). Day 2 was Kings Dominion. We also had preferred parking there as well. We went straight to Dominator as it is closest to the gate. I had not been on it since it was moved from Geauga Lake. A truly great coaster still. Our day was cooler overall, so more pleasant weather. I think what I love about this park is being there really felt like home. So very similar to the feel of KI. The biggest difference outside of some of the ride choices is at KI, you can go directly behind the Eiffel Tower for more to do whereas the path is located to the side at KD. So, outside of Dominator, let's review the others. Anaconda... I actually really enjoyed this one. Some great unique elements, like going through a tunnel under the water. Apple Zapple... a pretty fun wild mouse that did not punish me like the one at Hershey. Back Lot Stunt Coaster... same experience as the one at KI. Nothing different at all about it. Flight of Fear is the same, however, the ride op launching it was nothing short of hilarious with his banter. He was even taking requests from guests if they wanted him to say something. We had to take a spin on Bad Apple and Delirium. Shake, Rattle and Roll is one of my favorite flats at KI. Delirium was a nice changeup and the breeze I was getting from it was the highlight (old people thing ). Grizzly was an ok wooden coaster. I liked the seclusion, but it's not very long and it needs re-profiled. Racer 75 is pretty much like our own Racer. The only differences I noticed was they vary the chain lift speed on each side, each train overtaking the other for the lead and it had a nice drop into the final tunnel with brake run. The new coaster, Tumbili, is a fairly neat coaster. It was pretty fun, but a terrible wait as there are only 2 cars with 8 riders each. I'm glad we caught it early in the day as the line grew longer and I felt like the wait we experienced was nearly too long for such a short ride. There's no Fast Lane for it either. I did really like how they painted the supports to appear like giant bamboo. Later on in the day, we passed by and saw they had a cool show that tied the jungle theme in nicely. Twisted Timbers...wow, what a coaster. Not as fun as Steel Vengeance, but a quality ride none the less. I'm assuming the former Hurler was likely as bad as the one at Carowinds, which is why it received the RMC treatment. Lastly, by far my favorite of the entire trip, was Intimidator 305. Granted, Fury325 is a great experience, but the intensity of I-305 is absolutely insane. The turn out of the 1st drop had us all graying or blacking out until you started ascending the 2nd hill under the lift hill. For some, maybe that's not something they enjoy, but dang was it ever for us. Outside of that, it had some great floater airtime and the Intamin transitions from left to right or right to left are some of my favorite elements. If I had to pick a favorite of the 2, I would go with KD. Between the familiarity of the look/feel and I-305, it was enough to give it a slight edge. Apologies for such a long post.
    7 points
  10. Ik this idea sounds insane and likely won't happen, but I decided to come up with this anyway. What if the park really wants to start really pushing Timberwolf concerts down the road and I think a good way to do that is give it a Grand entrance for those who just want to go to the concerts. Think a mini Universal CityWalk or Hershey's ChocolateTown. Where it features shops and a restaurant or two and even a bar. My idea requires the removal of Invertigo and Congo
    7 points
  11. We were working on cleaning out my grandmas house and found some old souvenirs. Thought I would share. Can't wait to get this framed!!
    7 points
  12. It is obviously a hint for a new motorcycle themed attraction that goes upside down
    7 points
  13. I saw the show yesterday. I really, really enjoyed it! I actually got "misty" mid-way through the show because I realized how virtually every person in the audience was excited and rooting for the show. That's, no doubt, because of the special place that the original ride has in so many people's hearts. Its designed to be campy, corny, silly fun - and I hope everyone unfamiliar with the ride "gets" that. There's a lot of in-jokes and references that may go over the heads of those unfamiliar with the history. For instance, there's a very obscure, tongue in cheek reference to Paramount by the Maestro when he addresses all us people "out there in the dahhhhhhhk." (Sunset Boulevard) The jokes move pretty quick, so it will require re-watching to catch all of them. I don't think its on the level of the Taft/Keco era productions like Celebration, New York New York etc. However, its an immense step up from the lack-luster entertainment that's been housed at the Kings Island Theatre since CF took ownership. There's one particularly delightful number who's inspiration was "lifted" from a classic Jim Henson Kermit/Muppet Show sketch. It was extremely well done/well suited for this production. It is the highlight of the show, but then, I've always been a sucker for a good tap number! Ironically, I found the chorus members/dancers often outshined the namkesake leads at times (not including Maestro, who was spot-on.) Although the actors portraying Houdelini, Hilda and Garbanzo definitely resembled and embodied the characters, I found their vocal talents challenged at times. (Particularly Houdelini seemed to be struggling vocally.... but that may have been because I saw the last show of the day.) Its important to point out that the show's instrumentals are pre-recorded, and many of the chorus vocals seemed canned as well. At times, the 5 leads, who are mic'd, were struggling to sing over the music - which was turned up waaaay too loud at points. I'm sure given time, this will improve. There's an awkward "slap-stick" segment at the top of the show that needs some work. Its obviously done to set-up a really great acrobatic act that comes later in the show, but it has a weird silence to it - so the audience wasn't sure how to respond. When the performance concluded, about 1/4 of the audience responded with a standing ovation. It was great to see that response. But as I said earlier, you could feel the guests "rooting" for the show the entire time. That speaks volumes. Most importantly, the line to get into the theater before the show snaked all the way to International Street. I had deja-vu, because that's EXACTLY what it was like back in the hey-day of KI entertainment. In the day, you had to make sure to show up at the theater early because the crowd to get in would be so big. I hope the crowds continue to show up for this one - allowing the park to increase the quality/budget of it's live entertainment offerings. Finally, I need to mention the lobby full of artifacts and information about the original ride. So smartly done (it sets up the premise of the show for those that, perhaps, are not familiar with the ride.) Those displays stand on their own as one of the most heart-warming throwbacks Kings Island has done for the 50th. Seeing those few original props, signage and renderings was akin to seeing cherished old friends. Kudos to the cast, the Director, crew and more for giving us this gem. Shaggy
    7 points
  14. My hope is this show is a smash.. and gets held over into next season (as shows used to do waaaaaay back in the day,,, Celebration etc.) But more importantly, I hope its a smash and sends a message about how, to this very day, the attraction remains immensely popular... (I plan on seeing the show tomorrow... VERY excited!)
    7 points
  15. 7 points
  16. Some of us have real PR degrees.
    7 points
  17. Money was what drove this decision. They paid 150 million for it 3 years ago. Now selling it for 310 million. Even if you deduct the inflation out of the sales price, it's a very healthy return. Your reasons have plauged them for years and they knew these going into the purchase of the land., kind of like a nagging headache. I would imagine they had a pro and con list (also California being generally notoriously over regulated) and when a deal was offered at the price it was, they jumped to take the money and run.
    6 points
  18. I hope they find a new home for that double decker carousel.
    6 points
  19. Up 21% thru Memorial Day compared to pre-pandemic 2019 despite 14 fewer operating days in 22 compared to 2019...Season pass sales up 24% and season pass add-ons up 46% compared to same period in 2019 https://ir.cedarfair.com/news/news-details/2022/Cedar-Fair-Reports-Record-Revenues-Through-the-Memorial-Day-Weekend/default.aspx
    6 points
  20. The wheel is simply replaced. They will not try to repair the wheel. The mechanism that holds the wheels in place probably just rotated around its axis that once a new wheel is put on it is back in alignment. Or they could replace that whole assembly. They inspect the rides/trains every day, so giving them Wednesday night until this morning is more than enough time to inspect the whole ride and make any fixes necessary. It isn't like they stop working when the park closes. We have seen maintenance completely change out an entire set of wheels from park close one night to park open the next day. You can see this sometimes in the beginning and end of season when the Diamondback wheels change colors overnight based on if they need softer or stiffer wheels based on temperature... We saw seatbelts show up overnight on Diamondback one year. One year we saw cameras for user POV on the seat in front of you show up on Banshee overnight and then after a few weeks they were removed overnight. They can get a lot done overnight. Then you throw on top of it the ride not running, and they can really move. I have not confirmed it is open yet, but the park would not re-open the ride if they were not confident that the ride is safe. It just isn't worth the risk.
    6 points
  21. Would’ve been fun if the “kid” was named Gary. Only those “in the know” would get it, but it would’ve been a brilliant reference.
    6 points
  22. King's Island needs to keep this classic around! I know you could build a new ride but something is lost when these older rides disappear. I mean this is one of 5 left in the entire world and the last ever built of the model so it deserves to live on. We already lost Vortex and Firehawk. Let's not lose The Bat or Top Gun as the true fans know it. If the people of Chicago can save the Whizzer who knows, Cincy might be able to save The Bat if we really tried..... However I do hope the damage is minimal and the ride reopens as quickly as possible. I remember when The Vortex chain broke and they had to get a new one...that repair took a couple months but they got it running again before the end of the season.
    6 points
  23. Agreed, agreed and agreed! If there ever is front gate renovation, I hope it is considered as Phase II of the Interntional Street rehab. Restore the landscaped logo berm on the left. Remove the banners and put flags back up. Add trees and flowers. Replace the shingles with another material and maybe add some dormers to break up the long bare roofline. Update the buildings on the left to look international. Replace the blacktop behind the Eifel Tower. Add some blue spruce trees and flower beds around the tower. Replace pavers in Tower Gardens. Remove the Junkyard Coaster and renovate the entire area into a Parisian Promenade with a few small classic flat rides, curved walking paths, lush landscaping and statuary and an Arc Triumphe. Oh and for goodness sakes, restore the ornate gas lamps on IS, entry plaza and in Parisian Promenade.
    6 points
  24. Lol, reading thru this post I got a chuckle out of the person that said they took some pics and would post them after they got them developed....there is a whole set of members here too young who have no idea what that means lol. "What do you mean develop - I take a picture and then see it on my phone"
    6 points
  25. Probably for that green Intamin Giga YoungStud promised us a few years ago.
    6 points
  26. I'm sure I will be backed up on this. You must ride Adventure Express at night. You will not regret it.
    6 points
  27. Can't get a new coaster if they are not making money.
    6 points
  28. The footage used in the KI YouTube video was filmed just prior to its closure. There are certain unfortunate indicators in the footage that it was near the end of its life - most notably the condition of the attraction's animatronics. The park edited the footage from the ride too, for instance, the levitating dress does not appear because in its final 2 seasons someone had ruined it with fake blood. Adding the blood was a poor choice made by someone that wasn't smart enough to realize the ride was designed to be tongue-in-cheek, not macabre. Prior to the closure, DAFE, as well as ACE was invited for tours. Most of the figures had been removed by the time of the ACE tour. There were also several "personal" tours given, both before it was deconstructed as well as after the transformation to Scooby had begun. Final rides on Phantom theatre were done by the general public. I was in the 3rd to the last car. The final 2 were filled with employees that worked on the ride. Here's some fun, abeit dark & overexposed pics of myself and friends playing around with some of the props during an individual tour we took before PT was removed and during another tour as it was being converted to SDATHC...
    6 points
  29. Saw it for the first time today! What an outstanding show full of very talented people especially the two who do the rope jungle gym thing! I also love the reference the maestro makes to Boo Blasters! Hopefully a small hint of a potential retheme...who knows! Way to go Kings Island!
    6 points
  30. This will be one of the longest posts I have put on the site. What follows is my review of the show. Please bear with me.... spoilers ahead. I know a bit about theatre. Took Tap and Jazz for 15 years, did Blue Jacket the outdoor drama for 2 and started the Huber Heights Community Theatre 2 years after graduating from high school. My favorite show of all time at KI is and always will be Celebration (82-82). You can find the Carowinds iteration on youtube (83-84), I wish I could find a good copy of it from KI as the show was simply fantastic. It was a broadway style short production that made true use of the Theatre with lights, sets, fog, spotlights, etc. and one of my favorite parts was "the line" a tap number in the middle of the production. The production was so popular that they released a vinyl LP of the show of which I have one, signed by the cast (shout out to Sarah, Julie, Jane and Harry :)). After that they did Gotta Dance (83-84) and Fascinating Rhythm both of which had Alton Fitzgerald White (one of this years KI HOF inductees) in a lead role. It was nice to meet him on April 29th. All three of these shows were top-notch productions. The all had a very broadway feel to them and showed of some of the best performers ever to have graced any stage at the park. They all had immense followings and lines would form 45 minutes before performances. There were a lot of groupies who would see the show several times in a day. Those years were really something special to those who got to experience them when Taft controlled the productions. (Some of the performers would perform in the off-season on cruise ships). Where as the shows after and before these 3 were good I felt they never really had that "big show" feel to them and I have been waiting to see a show that could match the excitement, excellence, variety, execution and polish of those 3 legends of the past. My wait is now over. My suggestion to not miss this show. It has something for all ages and is well worth your time. (spoilers to follow) Phantom Theatre Encore is a return to those times of the past and is simply magnificent. I left with happy tears in my eyes seeing a well-thought out, well-executed production. The story is well thought out and very clever. Those who remember the phantom theatre are in for a real treat seeing our favorite characters come to life in a way I never thought I would see. The costumes and make up are very well done. The Usher is performed very well and the interaction with the audience before the show will make you want to be there as soon as the doors open 15 minutes before the performance. All of the performers really put an effort into their characters and it shows. Seeing the phantom come to life is just incredible. Whomever wrote this production studied the ride and took great care to put in a lot of nods to those of us fortunate enough to ride it (both visually and in the dialogue). The two acrobats re-creating the handyman hanging upside down on the rope from the ride was a great touch. There are props from the ride in the show that brought back so many memories and add to making me want to re-watch the show over and over to catch new visual and verbal nods to the ride. The music and songs are some of the best I've heard and are well performed. With the return of vinyl in recent years I would love to see them do a vinyl release of the show. The music and performances are worthy of it and think it would be well received and a fantastic souvenir (of course, they should include a digital download considering how scarce record players are nowadays). My favorite part without a doubt is the tap number. Yes, after over 30 years tap has returned! When I saw them come out I teared up knowing I was in for a treat and I was not disappointed. The black light effect was simply fantastic surprise and you audibly heard a response in the audience when it happened. (The one thing I wonder is if they could mic the floor. Just turn them on for this section to bring out the tap sounds a bit clearer.) Live tap dancing is a really unique thing to see and hear especially in this day and age. Kudos to bringing this art back from past and to the performers who executed it so well! I do agree with what other have said and would love to hear a "you'll be baaaaccckkkk" at the black out after the main show before the encore. Maybe they can add that, it would be a great thowback. Once the show was over I joined most of the audience in a standing ovation. Last show of the first full day of shows, standing ovation! The polish that was already on the production shows the hours of rehearsals and love and commitment the performers have put in to the show. I personally gave a standing ovation to them but also to the production team of the show and to KI for allowing this show during the most magical season I have ever had at KI (and it has only begun)!
    6 points
  31. Fantastic show, fantastic lobby preview! 10 out of 10! The original scrim and original animatronic head plus sculpture was a very welcome addition. I also learned they removed the moving bust from Boo Blasters just for this event. It’s apparent that they have put lots of love into this show. Highly recommend! They had more stuff these are just a few of the photos.
    6 points
  32. [Maestro voice] So you wanted to see the theater? Go ahead! [/Maestro Voice] …at these times! You’ll be back… you’ll be baaaaaack…
    6 points
  33. Alice: "stop the park, I wanna get off" lol EDIT: Drayton Manor in the UK is opening a nebulaz themed to vikings. Looking at this ride and how the color scheme is, I think a similar color scheme themed around beer brewing would be great in Slingshot's plot of land! Source for photo: https://www.ladbible.com/community/drayton-manor-loki-ride-confusing-fans-20220413
    6 points
  34. Looks wonderful, but bizarre that the park never even publicized they were doing anything with Tower Gardens! What an easy positive PR story.
    6 points
  35. Railblazer is probably a better fit at one of the smaller parks. Guess I need to get on Gold Striker before its gone.
    5 points
  36. Just announced: Michigan’s Adventure gets new roller coaster in 2033!
    5 points
  37. Read a few posts back, and it’s been mentioned many times in the past.
    5 points
  38. I heard a lot of construction noises this morning as I was walking into the park. But as you can see, there's still not much you can see from the Eiffel Tower.
    5 points
  39. Anyone else notice @VortexBFForever on the Tv’s in the queue’s? I did. And I stopped to watch the whole dang segment. Awesome job Carolyn! (I think I spelled it right?). Thank you for giving us a behind the scenes look.
    5 points
  40. Why would new/ refreshed entrance require a larger footprint than it already is? I believe the current entrance area is bigger than necessary. The original design was for trams to be used to bring guests to their cars.
    5 points
  41. ^Let's just say it has the making to look like it will be a money maker today LOL.
    5 points
  42. Good, glad he got caught and something was done. Just because you are on YouTube doesn’t make you special. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    5 points
  43. Well we can add someone filming themselves getting kicked out of KI for filming on Racer lol: https://youtu.be/tCts5cVqzew
    5 points
  44. It looks beautiful, can’t wait to see it in person. I am absolutely baffled why this wonderful production is only lasting until August 21? It seems tailor-made for Haunt. And it would be great to do a Christmas version for Winterfest this year…
    5 points
  45. Countless hours went into making the show happen. Kings Island continues to step up their game, and as an enthusiast and now employee, the passion and effort put forth in this show makes me so happy. Although I didn't do too much with Phantom, it was awesome to see it come together. I absolutely loved the show and hope to see it again.
    5 points
  46. I'd be for a Top Scan. A Screamin Swing could work in Rivertown. How about just more covered flat rides that protect from rain? The park lacks those.
    5 points
  47. There’s a HUGE flaw with that new poster. The horse is facing the wrong way. Carousels always turn counter-clockwise. Somebody should have caught that. Tsk tsk tsk. Out of all the wonderful posters they’ve produced, this is my least favorite. Such a shame because the KI Grand Carousel is, by far, the most beautiful thing in the park. Here’s how the image should look: ( minus the obvious backwards wording of course)
    5 points
  48. I just watched the first preview and it is a very fun show.
    5 points
  49. On May 28th Kings Island started its season long 50th Anniversary celebration. Part of those celebrations include new food offerings, more live entertainment, and caping off the night with a new fireworks display called Fun, Fireworks and Fifty. One of the highlights of the day was the return of Tower Gardens which had been closed since the start of the season. This is now a true walk down Kings Island memory lane. Not only is Tower Gardens the same relaxing area it has always been, but you are emersed with Kings Island history not only with descriptive history square pavers, but signage with descriptions and pictures. Along with that, there is a pleather of Eifel Towers that is representation of every coaster in the park. This is an excellent area of the park that you will want to cool off in. Reliving the history and the nostalgia from your childhood is a ride in itself in Tower Gardens. It is so much fun to see the year your favorite ride opened, or when one of your favorites was retired from the park that you remember so well. To see a full gallery of Tower Gardens use this link: https://kicentral.com/photos/tower-gardens Fast forward to the end of the night and you will experience the new Fun, Fireworks and Fifty. Be sure to get to the near front of the park on International street to experience a fireworks show like you have never seen before at Kings Island. Not only are there fireworks, but laser lights, pyrotechnics, over 100 flying drones as part of the show. This is also not just a few minutes of fireworks either. This is a full 13 minutes straight of entertainment in the sky and on the fountains at Kings Island. To say this is show is nothing but magical is not doing it justice. After the fireworks show, KICentral talked to a few people who had just witnessed what they said was amazement. We heard a few comments like, "I was crying", "they won me over, again", "best thing the park has done." While watching the show myself, I would be lying if I didn't tell you that my mouth dropped multiple times. I was blown away at the full experience of this show. I can not tell you enough to make sure to stay all the way till the end of the night to see this show. I can't imagine anyone being disappointed. KICentral would like to thank Kings Island and Cedar Fair for putting on such an extravagant show. To see a full gallery of Fireworks use this link: https://kicentral.com/photos/fun-fireworks-and-fifty Here you can watch a KIC video of the new Tower Gardens and the full Fireworks display from start to finish.
    5 points
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