SonofBaconator Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Good Gravy, this is exciting! 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdubbs727 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 43 minutes ago, OverlandTaxis30 said: Interestingly enough, you are not wrong. RFYL used to be a part of Rivertown when it opened with the park. Yeah, back when it was the Kings Mill Log Flume, it was Rivertown. There used to be a more apparent divide -- they had that great floral walkway that provided a nice boundary between what was then Hanna Barbara Land (and even when it was Nick U?) and RiverTown. Now, the boundary's a bit confusing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Bombay Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, BoddaH1994 said: I see what you did there!! You know who didn't see, though? Thomas. He had his doubts. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion742 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 3 hours ago, RedSummit20 said: https://www.visitkingsisland.com/new-in-2024 Attention Campers! Join Snoopy and the Beagle Scouts next year at Kings Island’s new Camp Snoopy. Opening in 2024, the expansion of the park’s award-winning Planet Snoopy kids’ area will feature Snoopy’s Soap Box Racers, a brand-new family roller coaster that races both forward and backward; and Beagle Scout Acres, an area where kids can run, crawl, play or relax with the family in a shaded comfortable space. Snoopy's Soap Box Racers Families and children will love this boomerang coaster that sends riders down a thrilling launch hill and hits speeds of up to 36 m.p.h. The 672-foot racetrack is filled with twists and turns making it the soap box derby no one will forget. Beagle Scout Acres Beagle Scout Acres is an area where kids can run, crawl, play or relax with the family in a shaded comfortable space. Explore a campsite filled with turfed mounds and grassy areas, interactive equipment to makes noise, tents to climb through or over and footprint paths made by Woodstock and his friends. New Ways To Play Experience new ways for kids and families to play at Kings Island with Camp Snoopy. It’s guaranteed to feel like a day at camp where you can play your way by exploring and relaxing in the great outdoors with Snoopy and the Beagle Scouts. Members of the Peanuts gang will lead you in Camptivities where you can raise the flag up the flagpole, light a campfire or make the camp bugle sound! Then, when you need a break, sit with the whole family and enjoy a snack. I am very happy to see Planet Snoopy seeing some love! Although I am a little disappointed that the entire area won’t become Camp snoopy. I am completely shocked that we are getting a family boomerang from Vekoma! I really like that the spike will have a little hill going into it to differentiate it from Good Gravy. I just hope you don’t have to have a kid to ride lol. I do think that with the new boomerang coming next year Invertigo may be on the chopping block next… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodVengeance Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Having the kids area split between Planet Snoopy and Camp Snoopy is really taking be back to the 90s and early 2000s when we had our kids area split between Hanna Barbera and Nickelodeon. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 minute ago, WoodVengeance said: Having the kids area split between Planet Snoopy and Camp Snoopy is really taking be back to the 90s and early 2000s when we had our kids area split between Hanna Barbera and Nickelodeon. That is a really good point. I had not thought about that. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofBaconator Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Analysis: Micro section- I’ve said it before that I think the chain is going to push more micro sections with KI and this further proves my point. Instead of overhauling an entire area, they’re choosing to create something new as an add on; we saw this just this year with Adventure Port and Oktoberfest and we might see more of it in the future elsewhere. Vekoma- I’m impressed that we’re going back to Vekoma. Many enthusiasts have wanted to see more of this manufacturer in the states and now that Cedar Fair has a new styled Vekoma it could be a sign of more things to come. The coaster itself- 75ft high! Wow! I know that most of the riders won’t reach that height with it being a shuttle coaster but visually it’s going to be an eye catcher. For a visual scale comparison, 75ft is taller that Backlot Stunt Coaster and Adventure Express. I know with it being a shuttle coaster that capacity will be on the lower side but for being in the kids area, I don’t think it’ll be a big issue. The playground- I think it’s cool to give kids something to do that doesn’t require them to wait in line. This will be a good way for the parents to sit down and relax for a second while the little ones burn off some energy. Overall thoughts- this is what the park needs in my opinion. Cedar Fair had yet to contribute a coaster of their own to the kids area and now they have! I don’t know if this will win us back the “World’s Best Kids Area” because I’m not sure if the Golden Ticket Awards would combine both sections or not; frankly it doesn’t matter if we don’t win it back, this area is a breath of fresh air regardless. Also, I think it’s cool that Flying Ace will get a repaint to match the area. 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Awesomeness 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaron88stang Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 I really like this move. I wonder if Flying Ace will get a new name along with the retheme. Also curious if there will be any changes/updates to RFYLCB as it will surely be incorporated into the area as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purdude86 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Orion-XL200 said: Solid addition. What I'm unsure of the entire scope...is it just that small section being called Camp Snoopy or is the entire area being rethemed? It appears to just be the back of the land getting retheme/expansion. It looks like the Camp Snoopy sign will sit somewhere near Woodstock Gliders. 3 hours ago, brenthodge said: Sounds like just that area. Would be nice if they could incorporate RFYLCB into it and even bring a food option (like camp fire burgers and dogs) to make a more complete “mini land” I hope so too. RFYLCB fits right in with the camping theme already. Based on the photos it appears that Flying Ace might be getting repainted to fit in as well, so maybe it and RFYLCB will be pulled in to create a larger miniland within the area. I could see Linus launcher "rethemed" (staying as is but referred to something new to fit the area) to kites or hang gliders to fit in with the camp theme as well. This would make an even divider for everything in the photo below (give or take Woodstock Gliders) to be incorporated to Camp Snoopy easily. Overall I hope this is just a phase one retheme of the entire area to a camp theme but it looks like it should be a nice addition/upgrade to the area. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenban Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 After Good Gravy!, we could have had Good Grief!. If they do repaint and retheme Aerial Chase, I really hope they get the new Vekoma trains as well. The newer lapbar only trains like on Dragonflier at Dollywood are so much more comfortable. Not sure if they can just replace the seats and restraints or they have to replace the whole thing. Overall at least from the concept art it looks fantastic. I wonder what else is happening that we are not seeing. This really does feel like a great way to use existing infrastructure, and to add a new coaster. I always have preferred the Camp Snoopy theme to Planet Snoopy and it’s great finally seeing it at KI. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiamondBeast Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 "Soapbox racer". Wonder if that's a nod to Knotts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodVengeance Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 minute ago, DiamondBeast said: "Soapbox racer". Wonder if that's a nod to Knotts Probably. It seems pretty evident that Knotts is getting something for Camp Snoopy next year, so I wouldn't be surprised if they get a clone of SSBR, or another coaster model that reuses the same name. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion742 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, WoodVengeance said: Probably. It seems pretty evident that Knotts is getting something for Camp Snoopy next year, so I wouldn't be surprised if they get a clone of SSBR, or another coaster model that reuses the same name. I heard the announcement was at 2:00 est but I can’t find anything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenthodge Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 18 minutes ago, Kenban said: After Good Gravy!, we could have had Good Grief!. If they do repaint and retheme Aerial Chase, I really hope they get the new Vekoma trains as well. The newer lapbar only trains like on Dragonflier at Dollywood are so much more comfortable. Not sure if they can just replace the seats and restraints or they have to replace the whole thing. Overall at least from the concept art it looks fantastic. I wonder what else is happening that we are not seeing. This really does feel like a great way to use existing infrastructure, and to add a new coaster. I always have preferred the Camp Snoopy theme to Planet Snoopy and it’s great finally seeing it at KI. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT THERE with PR and marketing. MISSED OPPORTUNITY to have some fun with Holiday world and troll them just a bit - Even if when they announced, KI had responded that way - "Good Grief, we better come up with something to get people fired up in our camp when we announce our 2024 project on August 10th" how hard is that? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brenthodge Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Would be interesting instead of making the whole area "Camp Snoopy" if they stuck with Planet Snoopy but created mini "worlds" within the land. Each with 1-2 rides and a food option that tied back into the theme - For Camp Snoopy with a few rides (1 new 1-2 'rezoned') do a "campfire grilled burger and dog" food location. Then look for ways to rework and theme a few rides around SurfDog to a beach theme with a tropical smoothie and swirl food stand. Moon buggies could become dune buggies, Gliders are 'Surf Gliders' etc. theres already Sally Sea Plane Kite tree should probably just move to camp or retheme to SPACE or something. Sort of how a kid plays "dress up" or imagines a world they are plying in - do the same thing with mini lands each themed to things kids play. This is something that could've been developed over the past several years as things have been added, but they seem to have no real long term planning vision for this area (as in you JUST repainted Flying Ace last year in the same colors - that would've been the perfect time to start this conversion. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoddaH1994 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Gordon Bombay said: You know who didn't see, though? Thomas. He had his doubts. I asked Peter and he denied having heard of Vekoma. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born_in_'72 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 Might want to ask him a couple more times...... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purdude86 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 1 hour ago, brenthodge said: Would be interesting instead of making the whole area "Camp Snoopy" if they stuck with Planet Snoopy but created mini "worlds" within the land. Each with 1-2 rides and a food option that tied back into the theme - For Camp Snoopy with a few rides (1 new 1-2 'rezoned') do a "campfire grilled burger and dog" food location. Then look for ways to rework and theme a few rides around SurfDog to a beach theme with a tropical smoothie and swirl food stand. Moon buggies could become dune buggies, Gliders are 'Surf Gliders' etc. theres already Sally Sea Plane Kite tree should probably just move to camp or retheme to SPACE or something. Sort of how a kid plays "dress up" or imagines a world they are plying in - do the same thing with mini lands each themed to things kids play. This is something that could've been developed over the past several years as things have been added, but they seem to have no real long term planning vision for this area (as in you JUST repainted Flying Ace last year in the same colors - that would've been the perfect time to start this conversion. I like that idea as well. That would be my second best to an entire Camp Snoopy (I feel cohesion across the area would be great for theming and mean more trees hopefully) but do like the idea of the mini lands making up Planet Snoopy as a whole. Beach and space would make other great fun themes. IF they did this I hope they would incorporate they would incorporate Snoopy's Junction train ride to the camp. With all the trees it fits in better for that than beach. To make a new attraction too maybe replace it with something like Black Bear Trail from Dollywood. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShedTreeBoi1 Posted August 10, 2023 Share Posted August 10, 2023 2 hours ago, brenthodge said: Would be interesting instead of making the whole area "Camp Snoopy" if they stuck with Planet Snoopy but created mini "worlds" within the land. Each with 1-2 rides and a food option that tied back into the theme - For Camp Snoopy with a few rides (1 new 1-2 'rezoned') do a "campfire grilled burger and dog" food location. Then look for ways to rework and theme a few rides around SurfDog to a beach theme with a tropical smoothie and swirl food stand. Moon buggies could become dune buggies, Gliders are 'Surf Gliders' etc. theres already Sally Sea Plane Kite tree should probably just move to camp or retheme to SPACE or something. Sort of how a kid plays "dress up" or imagines a world they are plying in - do the same thing with mini lands each themed to things kids play. This is something that could've been developed over the past several years as things have been added, but they seem to have no real long term planning vision for this area (as in you JUST repainted Flying Ace last year in the same colors - that would've been the perfect time to start this conversion. Was going to post basically the same thing after reading through the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyGuy4KI Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I do think this is going to be an awesome addition to the park. Kids are going to love it, and the playground area is going to be a great reprieve for parents. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WoodVengeance Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 I just realized each major owner of KI has contributed to our Planet/Camp Snoopy coasters. Taft with woodstock express, KECO with great pumpkin coaster, Paramount with flying ace aerial chase and Cedar Fair with snoopy soap box racers. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldiesmann Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 10 hours ago, Taylor.B03 said: What I'm meaning is that if the minimum requirements set by the manufacturer were let's say the same with this vekoma we're getting. That would mean Cedar Fair enacted a higher requirement than the manufacturer for only letting adults with kids ride. That's really what I'm looking for. I didn't realize that restriction was some arbitrary rule that they made. I assumed it was based on height. Hopefully KI won't resort to such antics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PKIDelirium Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 1 hour ago, IndyGuy4KI said: I do think this is going to be an awesome addition to the park. Kids are going to love it, and the playground area is going to be a great reprieve for parents. There hasn't been a proper playground area since McScrappy's Farm got taken out. The old Splat City had both a climbing structure (FAAC is on that site now) and the water maze, but those were more "active" things. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldiesmann Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 The playground should be a big hit. The one at Carowinds is great and my nieces loved it when we were there a couple years ago 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoaster Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 14 hours ago, DiamondBeast said: "Soapbox racer". Wonder if that's a nod to Knotts If its a nod to Knotts hope they pick up on dark rides. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shark6495 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 (edited) I don’t want to be a wet blanket on this and I’m excited the kids area gets some love (having multiple kids 10 and under makes me living in that area a lot), but….. my only negative is that this is the third coaster in that area with super limited capacity. Surf Dog, former Reptar, and this. While great family coasters to build up to bigger ones, I just wish they had added one with a bit more “people” eating capabilities. but also how great that the kids area will have 4 great coasters for kids to build and learn there riding on Edited August 11, 2023 by shark6495 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver2005 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 The only kids/family coaster I can think of with good capacity are those Zierer figure 8 designs that have those super long trains, which, I wouldn't mind if KI got one of those. Also, the ride crews at any parks' kids area leaves a lot to be desired, even at parks with better staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUN&ONLY! Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 Interesting that this display was placed here as this is not a part of the area that I thought would be a part of Camp Snoopy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaiian Coasters 325 Posted August 11, 2023 Share Posted August 11, 2023 25 minutes ago, FUN&ONLY! said: Interesting that this display was placed here as this is not a part of the area that I thought would be a part of Camp Snoopy. The park has clarified in a reply to this tweet that Camp Snoopy will be an area within Planet Snoopy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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